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Heres the screeny

05.02.2014 16:32

They post up antiracists details all the time lets get them sorted

Jenny

Nazis

05.02.2014 19:43

Casuals united's Zoe Smith's claim to fame

Casuals 5words slogan explained

Out and about

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two fingered salute

Casuals United making Nazi salute

05.02.2014 20:55

Casuals United make Nazi salute

Not sure this original article ("Darcy"? really?) is for real, but either way congrats to "two fingered" for finding the photo of Casuals United supporters making the Nazi salute

He's been reasonably canny about avoiding leaving hard proof, but word from Cardiff is that Casuals founder Jeff Marsh is well-known locally to be ex-NF

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Casual Indifference

06.02.2014 07:53

These idiots are perpetual attention seekers. I'm sure they'd love the idea of a Channel 4 documentary "exposing" them as racist hooligan hardmen.

They are losers - end of. They're currently already pissing off the more serious political racists by making idle threats of violence in Brighton this St Georges all over the interweb before the March for England have even officially announced their annual family fun day. This is barely three days after a supposed 'Unity' meeting of British patriots.

Please don't give them any more attention! Save your efforts for more serious fascist outfits and see you on the streets.

Five Words "You go where you're told"

Marsh Gas

Casual fash

06.02.2014 08:52

The fella doing the nazi salute with the flag is an NWI activist calls himself "curly boss" on facebook is believed to be from Blackburn

Sal

My giddy aunt...

06.02.2014 08:59

I'm not sure any real Casual would be seen dead in a cowboy hat lol

Woody

Soul Crew

06.02.2014 09:09

My brother is old school Soul Crew, and grew up with Marsh. He says Marsh was never NF or BNP and part of their mob were black lads for many years. Marshs head went on him after his then wife had an affair and he became increasingly mental and ended up attacking Celtic fans with a knuckleduster then joining the EDL. Hes never seen at his usual haunts and has fallen out with and had a few fights with people who were formerly his best mates, not because of what hes involved in, more that hes just a lunatic. He doesn't touch drugs, as he says they fund the taliban but he is as mad as a box of frogs. Hes on twitter as @wegowherewewant where he claims he lives in Spain. Not sure if thats true but hes not been spotted in any barry/cardiff pubs for about two years. Hope this helps

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/football-hooligan-barred-matches-five-1927762

Hes in this photo on annis's book cover, hes the one at the back through the gap

Pauline

@Woody

06.02.2014 10:10

That's not a cowboy hat (sighs) that's a trilby.

mat the hat

The girl

06.02.2014 10:25

Girl in the pic is Curly boss girlfriend name is Suzy "Marsh" also Blackburn

Zebedee

Casuals United on Channel 4 or Channel 5

06.02.2014 12:20

Casuals United blog promoting the Welsh Defence League (nb - Luke Pippen goatee

Luke Pippen organising Casuals United to attend EDL demos

Luke Pippen - Swastika flag, Nazi tattoos (goatee)

WDL flag and Nazi salutes (Luke Pippen with blue shades, face obscured)

WDL Nazi salutes (Luke Pippen goatee)

OK, this is slightly old news for people who've been following this stuff for a while, however, for the sake of clarity, and for the benefit of any relative newbies, and/or for any TV researchers out there (if these scum are going to get the media attention and publicity anyway, we might as well try to make sure the media get it right) - Casuals United is one-man-and-his-dog outfit run by life-long thug, ex-convict and knife-criminal Jeff Marsh (it's rumoured Jeff's recently moved to Spain, but he's from Barry, near Cardiff).

In fact Jeff Marsh was a senior EDL organiser, but kept a low profile within the EDL's publicly-visible operations on account of having been jailed for stabbing 2 Manchester United fans. Jeff Marsh's role within the EDL was (as the name Casuals United implies) 1st to use his connections at the dog-end of the 80s hooligan scene to try and pump-up the numbers at EDL demos, 2nd to create and organise the Welsh branch of the EDL - the Welsh Defence League.

In practice the Welsh Defence League consisted of hardcore Nazis, mostly drawn from the Swansea hooligan scene, so, while football rivalries meant Jeff didn't feature in the photos that emerged of the WDL making Nazi salutes etc (which had as much to with Jeff being scared of the Swansea "Jacks" as any real strategic discretion on Jeff's part) in practice the liaison between Jeff Marsh and the WDL Nazis was handled by casuals United organisers (and hardcore Nazis) Luke Pippen & Steven White.

The Casuals United blog changed its visual style after the WDL was exposed for being Nazi, however here's a screen-grab from the old-look Casuals blog which shows a WDL away-day being promoted on the Casuals blog (Luke Pippen to the far left of the photo, goatee + beer can - the datestamps on the cameras taking these photos is usually wrong btw), followed by another screen-shot from the Casuals United blog which shows Luke Pippen was organising trips to EDL demos on behalf of Jeff Marsh.

The main photo of the WDL making Nazi salutes is near-legendary by know, by has (to the best of my knowledge) been completely ignored by the TV, newspapers and mainstream media... perhaps because while EDL provocations continued to make sufficiently "good" copy, the media didn't want them killed-off just yet?

Check these videos (and comments following, LOTS of info) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PooHIkOGoQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1d0X7oqLoU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC5YYbwV5yo (mirror)

Since it became obvious pretending not to be Nazis was a waste of time, the former WDL people moved-on to organising stuff like last year's (openly Nazi) White Pride demo, etc -

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/03/507472.html?c=on#comments

Photos of Jeff Marsh

06.02.2014 12:22

Jeff Marsh - knife maniac

Jeff Marsh

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casuals united news team

06.02.2014 12:43

Zoe Smith (right)

Bombadier

Fight club?

06.02.2014 12:53

Suzy Marsh (C.U.N.T) offers Antifa out for a fight, then Zoe Smith bottles it

lol

@Pauline

06.02.2014 12:58

Thanks for the info but it's a moot point to an extent. Some people say Marsh is ex-NF, some people claim he isn't, he IS organising far-right activity NOW and that's the most important point, but the suggestion he might have gone along with a few black hooligans ...... does that prove he isn't racist? or does it prove he was too scared of the black guys to make an issue out of it?

Combat 18 took many of their dick-heads from the Chelsea Headhunters and a couple of the Headhunters were black! There's a photo on one Headhunter site showing a bunch of twats giving Nazi salutes - one of the people making the Nazi salute is black! There's a video (posted on You Tube by Searchlight's undercover video bloke) which purports to show "Combat 18" harassing a demo - in fact it was more Headhunters than C18, because although the video does show C18 prick (and knife murderer) Charlie Sergeant (as I recall wearing a Swastika T-shirt?!), Sergeant's standing next to a black guy, almost certainly another Headhunter. Ditto back in the early 80s there was a black hooligan who ran with the openly Nazi "British Movement" skinheads, and a handful of socially-desperate Asians and mixed-race hooligans were gullible enough to allow themselves to be used by the EDL. If anyone thinks Casuals United is anything less than racist just look at the way the Casuals blog selects stories about black and Asian criminals to smear immigrants and immigration generally, and sarcastically inverts the language of multiculturalism to describe serious crimes as acts of acts of cultural "enrichment". The entire schtick of the EDL and Casuals etc is to try to modernise the PR strategies used by the far-right, to adapt to a popular culture that no longer tolerates bigotry, and to use the superficial appearance of non-racism to sneak far-right activists into positions of influence within contemporary culture, but (while we still need to remain vigilant about these wankers) basically it's failed

Peer

CU twitter accounts

06.02.2014 13:08

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Misty

Marsh is a fake

06.02.2014 13:17

Marsh is nothing more than a big kid that likes seeing himself portrayed as a 'bad boy'. FFS, 2 years for GBH, what did he do, tickle the victim with the knife or make a deal to go undercover for special branch?

Georgie

Obsessed with knives

06.02.2014 13:38

Jackland is Swansea btw

Casualties

Casuals utd think this post is a channel 4 conspiracy, I shit ye not

06.02.2014 13:46

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stealth

More twitter accounts

06.02.2014 14:13

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Zed

IMPORTANT WARNING ADVICE ON DEALING WITH JOURNALISTS

06.02.2014 15:28

For reasons that are too complex to explain here, but as stated above, it's unlikely any real Anti-Fascist would post here using the name Darcy, so (apologies if I'm wrong, but) my fear is it's possible the Darcy post might be a far-right hoax? Why might they do this?

One way the far-right try to trick Anti-Fascists into giving-out personal details, is to contact Anti-Fascists via social media, pretending to be journos looking for info on far-right groups, then ask the Anti-Fascists for their name/s, e-mail address/es, mobile number/s etc. If that's what's happening here, then Casuals United posting an item on their blog (which they have done) claiming journos are sniffing around would give credibility to this ruse.

So, if anyone claiming to be journos etc contact you via social media etc DON'T ever give any personal info. INSIST they provide you with an official e-mail address where they can be contacted as a named employee of a mainstream broadcaster, ie -

john.smith@bbc.co.uk,

john.smith@channel4.com,

john.smith@channel5.com (even if they're freelancers, if they're serious, they'll be able to set this up).

Then go on-line using a web anonymising service, then register an anonymous e-mail address with a service like G-mail. It's said IP addresses can't be recovered from G-mail messages, but, just in case, ONLY register or use that G-mail account when you're accessing the web via an anonymous link. Then use that anonymous e-mail account to send

john.smith@bbc.co.uk (or whatever) a coded message (make up something like "LH&&^^X!"), explaining you'll only communicate with them if they send the exact code back to you via the social media they used to contact you in the first place. If they're unwilling or unable to do this, don't talk to them. Might sound like a bit of a fuss, but it's good to practice getting into good habits, and half an hour's extra effort could save you a whole ocean of grief if you get rumbled by Fascists.

Finally if any TV company asks for an interview, you can do this as a written Q&A via e-mail, and they can employ an actor to speak your words. Definitely don't meet in person or provide any info from which you could be identified, because even if (!) the journos do mean well, that doesn't mean they can be trusted not to gossip about or accidentally leak details from which you might be identified. If in doubt, always be too cautious (never not cautious enough).

Stay safe people!

Either way keep the intel on the Casuals coming, thanks for all the good work :)

Just in case

Obsessed with knives

06.02.2014 15:38

To be honest I think Jeff Marsh is sexually turned on by knives. Liverpool BNP thug Joey Owens MO was slashing people across the face, weirdly (from the newspaper reports and from the descriptions published in the free downloads of Marsh's shit books) Marsh's preferred MO seems to involve stabbing men in the arse

Island Barry

IMPORTANT WARNING ADVICE ON DEALING WITH JOURNALISTS

06.02.2014 16:14

As an alternative you could stop pretending to be James Bond and simply talk to us.

If you asked me to do all of the above I would mark you down as a nut job and simply move on to somebody else.

Journalist

Marshys twitter

06.02.2014 17:03

Hes tweeting pics of Spain all the time how is he the leader if he doesn't even live over here? A lot of the info, WDL etc is seriously out of date, whats happening now? Who are the members?

Twitter

Quite a stash of info on this post. Cheers.

06.02.2014 17:24

Someone's not happy.

AC

@Twitter

06.02.2014 17:28

Well there are names to faces on recent pictures here, current twitter accounts and twitter posts. I guess you are CU?

lol

Fash announce fash fest

06.02.2014 17:41

In Swansea

Jack

Excuse me?

06.02.2014 18:12

No I'm not CU I was just stating that if you look through Marshs twitter account it doesn't look as if hes involved any more and apart from a few twitter accounts which are most likely in fake names, and everyone knows Zoe anyway what new info is there? No need to be obnoxious now is there? The WDL pics are about 5yrs old

Twitter

Cheers Jack, here's another from southwales nf website

06.02.2014 18:32

ps ch4/5, you'll find casuals united members galore at this event

scum_hunt

Load of old tosh

06.02.2014 18:57

Why would the TV wish to make a doc about a no mark like him?
I would imagine he has invented the whole tale up himself as he seems a total self egotist and most of you seem to of swallowed it without question.
He is hated by the Cardiff soul crew, and by the fash in swansea.
He does not live in Spain, I know that for fact as Im in contact with someone ITK via football.
He was never in the NF here, they were always minuscule around CCFC and those sympathetic were very few and well known.
No proper football lads are involved or have been involved in CU, just no marks who were never around when things did go on.
His dire book is just cut n paste gossips from football lads banter boards.
And to agree with one poster earlier, 2 years for stabbing people up, yeah right, the name says it all - Jeff Grass.

Jeff Grass

The news cuttings on here

06.02.2014 18:57

Cutting one, the stabbing one. Jeff Marsh middle name is Joseph, thats why he gets called Joe, this is possibly a fake cutting thats been fed to either promote his crap books or to mislead someone?

Cutting two, the Zoe one, Marsh is not in any way shape or form 28yrs old and he hasn't got a son either, so I'm gonna suggest that also is fake.

This bitch in the screen shot here seems to be implying there is something dodgy about them too thats why I'm suggesting this

Pauline

Soz

06.02.2014 19:00

Screeny did not post for some reason

Pauline

again

06.02.2014 19:12

cant get it to post

again

Pauline!

06.02.2014 19:34

Save it as a JPG or JPEG format and it should work :)

Tez

Casuals United / WDL organisers Luke Pippen & Steven White

06.02.2014 19:39

Steven White refers to himself on WDL Facebook as "LEADERSHIP"

Luke Pippen touting for EDL demo on WDL Facebook

Steven White touting for EDL demo on WDL Facebook

Steven White BFF (note Nazi symbolism)

Steven White using his actual photo on main EDL Facebook

Steven White (with Carlsberg) - SS tattoo + Blood & Honour T-shirt

Steven White (video still) - Swastika tattoo

Screen-grabs show Steven White referring to himself on WDL Facebook as "LEADERSHIP" (although the WDL was founded by Jeff Marsh). Note the WDL describing themselves as "non-racist"! Next shot shows Luke Pippen on the same Facebook touting for attendances at EDL demo, as he did on the Casuals United blog (see earlier post, above). Then Steven White doing the same for EDL Bradford demo. Then Steven White indicating his membership of Nazi gang the British Freedom (sic) Fighters. Then Steven White using his actual photo (sometimes he's bearded, sometime clean-shaven) on **main** EDL Facebook. Finally some proper photos of Steven White (note, as before, the date-stamp on the camera that took one of these photos has been set-up wrong) - Nazi tattoos!

Pete

Advice to "journalist"

06.02.2014 19:47

"As an alternative you could stop pretending to be James Bond and simply talk to us"? If you were a real journalist you'd...

1/ respect our need to take precautions to protect ourselves and our families from being identified and intimidated by Nazi psychopaths and convicted knife-criminals! (try to keep up)

2/ not make stupid comments and instead use your comment to provide eg - a proper Channel 4 e-mail address where you could be contacted... perhaps

As it happens, genius, this technique has been used plenty of times, and no real journalist ever objected to being asked to respect a few simple security procedures

Scaramanga

WDL van photo

06.02.2014 19:49

Now with handy WDL legend printed on their hoodies

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Answers to questions

06.02.2014 20:17

@ Twitter yes the WDL pics are old... as already said [quote] "this is slightly old news for people who've been following this stuff for a while"!!!!

Marsh runs Casuals (from Spain or England) in what he once laughably referred to as a "Command and Control" (more like "Cop-out Coward") capacity - he rarely ever turned up on demos at any stage (no change their then), and always did do stuff via texting and the internet. Yes the WDL is defunct now but Marsh founded it and its exposure as a Nazi group provides a devastating insight into this jerk and all his nasty little projects, including Casuals United

@ Jeff Grass "Why would the TV wish to make a doc about a no mark like him?" If they are making one (which they might not be) then presumably it'd be for the similar reasons to why BBC Wales made a documentary about the WDL already, and the media generally gave shed-loads of (sometimes amazingly uncritical) publicity to the EDL.

Yeah Marsh is a crud but the media try to turn all sorts of lunatic-fringe chancers (Anjem Choudary for instance) into political figures. The point is that for years much of the media went easy on the EDL despite huge evidence it's a Nazi front, and it's important to keep placing such evidence before the public gaze (even if it turns out C4 aren't making a show)

screenz

Books of the year

06.02.2014 20:58

Jeff's books are great. I've not read em yet but one is under the front leg of the dining room table and the other is in the kahzi in case we run out of rass clart.

Masrhole

Jeff is our Furher

06.02.2014 21:04

I hear from a very reliable source Marsh is the guest speaker at the WPWW event in Swansea in March. Word is, because he is hated in Swansea, he is taking a leaf out of Robinson's book (the Kabalah) and coming dressed as a Rabbi.

Swansea Jack of all trades master of none

WDL

06.02.2014 22:28

You got any screenies of Marsh saying he runs WDL as he reckons he never had anything to do with WDL and that his group has always been Casuals United?

George

@Twitter

06.02.2014 22:45

Not "5yrs old", just over 3 years old

Z

Groomers united

07.02.2014 00:02

I reckon them casuals are grooming that Zoe Smith. After all, she does look like a horse.

Jimmy Savilles helmet wart

Responses

07.02.2014 01:14

@ Helmet Wart (sic) - oh do shut up

@ George -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11916458

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