What can and can't be renationalised, and why.
Mr. Smith | 08.11.2013 01:32 | Birmingham | Liverpool
Feel free to add to or remove from the lists. If you can be arsed explaining why that would be lovely.
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>>Banking Should Be Public
06.11.2013 21:22
The Bank of England should be real public property. At the moment it's real status is very elusive. From my research it is registered as a private limited company but with only one share, of course that share might be sub-divided, who knows? The government is very shady about who really owns the bank of England. >Of course, these suggestions are not ideal, but as a transitional stage would be realistic. >Telecoms.....
06.11.2013 22:12
... worked fine when they were in public ownership >a comment and some questions
07.11.2013 13:32
Can be nationalized --- anything and everything depending on how many people you are willing to kill to accomplish that and have the necessary resources to win the fight instead of being wiped out yourself. What I really meant is that you can nationalize whatever you can convince enough people should be nationalized. >a) WHY are you equating "public ownership" (as opposed to "privately owned") with "nationalized"? Did you mean to be including in your vision of communal ownership that this always be at the national level as opposed to more local level? That the only form of socialism/communism you consider legitimate is at the STATE level? You would consider local collectives, co-ops, communes, etc. to be a form of private ownership? <<
I'm just looking at public opinion moving towards removing our essential utilities from the capitalists, and of course resisting any further privatisations. I'm not a statist and I look forward to a time when we control our resources for our needs using whatever forms of social organisation we find works.
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06.11.2013 21:22
The Bank of England should be real public property. At the moment it's real status is very elusive. From my research it is registered as a private limited company but with only one share, of course that share might be sub-divided, who knows? The government is very shady about who really owns the bank of England. >Of course, these suggestions are not ideal, but as a transitional stage would be realistic. >Telecoms.....
06.11.2013 22:12
... worked fine when they were in public ownership >a comment and some questions
07.11.2013 13:32
Can be nationalized --- anything and everything depending on how many people you are willing to kill to accomplish that and have the necessary resources to win the fight instead of being wiped out yourself. What I really meant is that you can nationalize whatever you can convince enough people should be nationalized. >a) WHY are you equating "public ownership" (as opposed to "privately owned") with "nationalized"? Did you mean to be including in your vision of communal ownership that this always be at the national level as opposed to more local level? That the only form of socialism/communism you consider legitimate is at the STATE level? You would consider local collectives, co-ops, communes, etc. to be a form of private ownership? <<
I'm just looking at public opinion moving towards removing our essential utilities from the capitalists, and of course resisting any further privatisations. I'm not a statist and I look forward to a time when we control our resources for our needs using whatever forms of social organisation we find works.
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08.11.2013 01:40
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The Land
08.11.2013 02:00
Even professional farmers admit that the present agricultural system is not working for the benefit of the people, but for the large corporations.
See documentary: The future of farming.
Again, like other public resources and services we need transitional mechanisms to enable the change but avoid too much social upheaval.
The most important change will be political. The whole political system must be changed dramatically. One suggestion [not my own] would be a political system similar to jury service, where people are selected at random to serve as representatives in a public council, on a local and national level. Professional politics attracts the wrong type of people, who seek power and wealth, rather than actually serving the public.
I believe these changes can be made peacefully, but if we really value ideals such as peace and justice, we must be prepared to deal with any nefarious activity by the present ruling elite. It is also my feeling, that these changes need to be a worldwide phenomenon, but also feel that billions of people around the world are ready, as they are just as sick and tired of the oppression and corruption as we are. Why should we let such a small minority of psychopaths destroy our lives, the lives of future generations and the planet?
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