DSEI protests, why was there so little support ?
anon@indymedia.org (Craven A) | 20.09.2013 10:55
DSEI 2013 was the fourth DSEI arms fair I have protested outside, the sickening site of well fed and smug arms dealers engaging in deals that will lead to maimings and the death of thousands never fails to move me to the point of vomit.
How could anybody not be moved to action by this I have always thought and yet every DSEI the level of protest and the numbers of those standing outside has declined. DESI 2013 had at most 150 people when the first DSEI I attended had close to 2000 with various complimentry actions at other sites. We protested the arms dealers dinner and there was about 15 of us despite the venue being well known and shared weeks in advance !
I spoke with one of the coppers in duty and he said the police numbers were also the lowest ever because, "there are hardly any protestors these days" He was a bit upset because there were no longer the overtime opportunities there once were at DSEI.
I'm not claiming to have any answers to the problem and I will always attend DESI as long as it exists even if I am the only person standing there, these bastards must not think their work is acceptable in our society but I wonder of we are having any effect on the event at all. The level of disruption we caused was minimal, the blockades we tried to set up inconvinienced nobody and the arms dealers clearly did not give a toss about us or what we had to say. Local people I spoke with were now resigned to the event every two years and several welcomed it because there was some casual work that it seemed was quite well paid. The number of exhibitors and attendees was the highest ever for a DSEI so clearly we are not influencing the event itself and we are not doing much to change minds in the local area.
Where are we going wrong, I simply have no idea but if I read one more post or website congratulating us on a job well done I will scream with frustration.
anon@indymedia.org (Craven A)
http://nottingham.indymedia.org/articles/6025
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sorry to say
20.09.2013 16:46
Like you I think it is disgraceful that such a huge arms 'fair' has happended. I hope we all wake up soon.
peace,love&solidarity
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It's about effectiveness
21.09.2013 08:51
While I do agree that a 2000-strong demonstration against arms dealers this year would have been nice, it would also have been entirely symbolic. It's really clear, I think, why that isn't worth making happen today. For one thing, we're in a financial crisis. A lot of people are in desperate need, and I think they would rather use direct action to make their lives better - fighting for small acheivable aims - instead of getting nicked for the sake of symbolism. For another, to make a mass demonstration happen you need to organise around issues that directly affect people, and the arms trade just isn't doing that in the UK right now.
In 2000 it made sense to draw attention to the horrors of capitalism by moralising - people were doing pretty well economically, and telling everyone that capitalism was opressing them and ruining their lives wasn't easy. Now in 2013 things are different. There is a *real* possibility of a millitant mass movement which in time may spill over into attacking the millitary-industrial complex directly, but right now desperately needs anarchists to mobilise at the grassroots and build community resistance. Why should activists burn themselves out for the sake of symbolism when there is important work that desperately needs doing?
At the end of the day, there is no way to challenge the millitary-industrial complex without an international mass movement. So, I would urge you to put your energy into fighting the cuts and empowering communities - this is the only way we will ever stop the likes of desi for good!
Oh, and while we're on the topic - lets remember that we live in a "first world" nation here. The people directly affected by the arms trade are very far away. Is our protest on their behalf empowering and encouraging them, or propagating the imperialist idea that a few white british people can fix things for everyone else? Just saying...
(I understand this is all going to be hard to hear as it sounds like you have put a lot of energy into fighting the arms trade. This is good work, but you did ask why people aren't joining you and I thought I should explain why I am not. In general I would rather not criticise other activists in a time like this where the state is desperately trying to divide and rule us. But your article was basically criticising me first, so I felt it was important to respond.)
anon
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21.09.2013 15:37
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Excellent piece
22.09.2013 10:10
The complication is that there are a few small NGOs and organisations that have the arms trade as their remit so they are always going to work on it as a issue whether or not it's a strategic place for revolutionaries to put their time.
We should recognise that these NGOs and people should not be allowed to set the direction and strategy for the rest of us.
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DSEI, why we are winning
22.09.2013 10:45
DSEI 2013 required thousands of police at massive expense to the public to prevent activists closing the Excel centre, the arms dealers cowered in fear behind a wall of steel to go about their business too frightened to face us on the streets. Young, old, men women, trans, Muslim, Christian and none of the above stood shoulder to shoulder proud and fearless in the face of police violence and oppression.
Everyone of them is a hero.
Toni
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At Toni
22.09.2013 17:38
Stop obsessing about important 'your' campaign is, stop saying everything that happens is a victory no matter how rubbish and ineffective it actually is.
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Part of the problem
23.09.2013 07:31
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"the arms dealers cowered in fear behind a wall of steel to go about their business too frightened to face us on the streets"
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That is simply delusional. Let's look at the facts for a moment. Most of the dealers are former military, these are not the sort of people to be intimidated by some individuals waving banners and shouting slogans. The number of people protesting DSEI this year was the lowest ever, when I was there on Wednesday there was less than 100 people at the West entrance (compare that to the 30,000 arms dealers who visited this year) and at the end of the day when many of the dealers were leaving the number of us still there were down to about 15 !!
Disarm DESI does not do itself any favours with statements like the one above which is why myself and other friends chose to work independetly of them this year.
A
Returning to the original point, why the lack of support
23.09.2013 11:23
Tyler
useful comments
24.09.2013 09:35
To 'anon' who wrote:
'Oh, and while we're on the topic - lets remember that we live in a "first world" nation here. The people directly affected by the arms trade are very far away. Is our protest on their behalf empowering and encouraging them, or propagating the imperialist idea that a few white british people can fix things for everyone else? Just saying...'
This relates to my previous point. During DSEi there were groups from Bahrain and Turkey etc involved, who have been at the receiving end of many weapons sold at DSEi. And people from Palestine have asked me numerous times to work against the arms trade where I am. For me this is called international solidarity, not imperialism. The imperialst element would be these people being bombed by weapons which have been exported from here unopposed. As far away as people may be (as if that mattered) they are often friends and people struggling for the same thing.
Having said all that, there is no reason you can't do both. Most activist I know are not just involved in one thing. Lets support each other in any small way we can and not just try to convince everone to work on whatever we have most energy to focus on at the moment.
Disarmer
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