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Statement on “Libcom and Aufheben working with the police" by Samotnaf

SamFantoSamotnaf | 12.08.2013 18:12 | Analysis | Policing

On the inaccuracy of the 'non-fides' article “Libcom and Aufheben working with the police".

The article "Libcom and Aufheben working with the police" is significantly inaccurate.

The title and content is factually incorrect. Neither myself nor the TPTG have ever stated that these two groups work with the police, merely that John Drury of Aufheben worked (and possibly continues to work) with the police, and certainly continues to collaborate with the cop crowd psychologist, Clifford Stott. Libcom and Aufheben have certainly defended Drury in his role, but there is no evidence that I have seen that they themselves work with the police. Nor have they totally "censored on Libcom any mention of the argument in order to stifle this "Aufhebengate" . They've been more subtle than this - allowing a certain degree of discussion, then closing it down and lying about the TPTG, claiming that they were posting using another name and using this as a pretext to close down discussion. Their censorship has been selective - for example, about 2 months ago a friend posted up a thread taken from the section of “Cop-Out...” on soft cop policing ("Good cop Bad Cop"), taking care to reduce John Drury's name to JD throughout, and they took it off within 2 hours without mentioning it publicly or in private to my friend.


It's ridiculous, careless, unthinking and potentially dangerous to go around publicly claiming someone works for the cops when they don't. It trivialises and undermines the whole critique I made. It also allows Libcom and Aufheben and all those who don't want to reflect on the significance of their defence of Drury to dismiss the whole affair as some stupid rivalrous attitude without any basis in fact. In this the non-fides text has helped to undermine the very critique of these scum that I was making and make these pseudo-radicals sound reasonable. Despite asking “non-fides”, two weeks ago, to publicly retract what they have written about this affair, they have not even bothered to reply to me in private.

For those interested in an analysis of the significance of this affair which many consider insignificant, see:  http://dialectical-delinquents.com/?page_id=9 (this text only uses the affair as a starting point, and analyses: developments in the history of policing including especially the use of soft cop policing; the symbiotic relationship between academia and capital; the poverty of anarcho-leftism; various contradictions in the current development of friendship; and lots of other bits and pieces).

SamFanto Samotnaf

PS If I have delayed responding to this translation of an article by non-fides, it's mainly because I've had better things to do - but sometimes you have to do things that niggle at the back of your mind in order to then go on to do the things that are slightly stifled by this niggling...

SamFantoSamotnaf
- e-mail: dialecticaldelinquents@yahoo.co.uk
- Homepage: dialectical-delinquents.com

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Sounds like Indymedia!

12.08.2013 22:42

"Their censorship has been selective"?!? Sounds like Indymedia!

1994


PR stunt

13.08.2013 08:11

So when you plastered allegations of "cop collaborators" all over the place, it was just click-bait to get people to read your blog? Embarassing.

Max Clifford


Max Clifford deliberately misrepresents what I've said

13.08.2013 09:25

John Drury is a cop collaborator. Libcom and Aufheben have defended him as much as the real Max Clifford defended O.J.Simpson. That does not mean that Libcom and Aufheben work for the police, nor that the unreal "Max Clifford" does.

SamFantoSamotnaf
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"Max Clifford" deliberately misrepresents what I've said

13.08.2013 10:00

John Drury is a cop collaborator. Libcom and Aufheben (and others) have defended him, but they do not work for the police. I have never said they were working for the police, so you have clearly misrepresented me. So when you plaster allegations of click-bait all over the place it was just to get people to read your post? Embarassing.

SamFantoSamotnaf
mail e-mail: dialecticaldelinquents@yahoo.co.uk
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Max Clifford is an immoral capitalist pig....

14.08.2013 16:58

Libcom et Aufheben are pig colaberating shits. Does that clarify things?

Barry Cade


Now chaps I think this is a bit much yah

17.08.2013 16:57

There's a reason why conspiraloons feel so comfortable feeding off your writing SamSammySamsam, you reap what you sow...

Not much sympathy


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