It's hard to be absolutely certain but there's no way there's more than 250 in these photos

The original aim of the EDL was to cross-over out of hooligan culture and to try to trick their way into mainstream politics, in part by denying they were right-wing AT ALL, so, even if they had managed to Unite the Right (sic) in Manchester, that's still an absolute fail, because it very publicly concedes their best hope of just surviving (let alone succeeding) as a movement lies in dropping the pretense they're not right-wing.

No doubt the EDL will remain a pain in the butt for some time, in case of some of their activists possibly for the rest of their sorry lives, but in successfully isolating themselves in the far-right ghetto their Plan A strategy is basically completely fucked and everything else is just face-saving and stupid stunts

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Solution

1488 =

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)#As_a_Neo-Nazi_symbol
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

 https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/02/506881.html

some of these photos and comments should be removed, one author calls people in leather jackets "freaks" and another laughs at somebody for being over weight. which is exactly the sort of stupid prejudice that indymedia is against. The person who posted those comments should be ashamed, and is a disgrace to anti fascism.

Please remove the pictures "EDl freaks" and "EDL full effect" as I own the copyright to these pics and did not give permission for their use.

The photo taken from the town hall claiming to be EDL is the counter demo. If you're going to make claims in order to undermine EDL's legitimacy and strength then make sure they are factually correct, otherwise it risks belief in any arguments we make against them.

I have contacted the moderators and am in the process of taking legal action for infringement of my copyright regarding the 2 pics I refer to.

Please remove comments about photos which don't appear on this thread

Facebook pervert Stephen Payne walks free after grooming 13-year-old girl for sex
The Daily Record, 1 March 2013
 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/facebook-pervert-stephen-payne-walks-1736961

Fury erupted after a right-wing yob who groomed a 13-year-old girl online before having sex with her avoided jail and a place on the sex offenders’ register. A court heard Stephen Payne had sex with the teenager at his home after the youngster made clear to him during Facebook chat that she was under age. But the 19-year-old was given only a community payback order after he admitted sex with a minor. The young victim’s furious father yesterday blasted the 100-hour sentence.

He said: “I am absolutely bewildered that something of this severity gets you 100 hours’ community service and no place on the register. What exactly is the sex offenders’ register for? You could get a heftier punishment than this for fighting at the football.” Local MSP Helen Eadie was also appalled by the sentence and has written to Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland to voice her concerns. Payne – who “likes” the far-right Scottish Defence League on his Facebook page – got into online conversation with his young victim in 2011.

During their chat, she told him she was 14, although she was only 13 at the time. She later went to his home in Rosyth, Fife, where they had sex in September 2011. The girl’s parents found out about the incident last April and her mother contacted police, who launched an inquiry. Payne was subsequently arrested and charged. He pled guilty after his Facebook conversation with the girl was traced. At Dunfermline Sheriff Court on January 16, Payne admitted having sex with a minor. But Sheriff Ian Abercrombie QC sentenced him to only a 100-hour community payback order. The girl’s dad added: “I would like him on the register and everyone in the locality to know what kind of person is at liberty to walk the streets.”

I met an EDL supporter on the London underground once. He was sitting in a seat while a pregnant women stood next to him.

He said, actually slurred, that we should all "sport are troops" and that the troops were the only thing standing between us and an invasion of muslamic raygun weilding Iraqi's who would invade Britain and force us all to wear Burqha's and talk Arabic. He was drinking from a can of Special Brew, smelt strongly of bodily fluids and had a large piss stain on the front of his trousers. He was also sitting in something malleable or pie-like in his trousers at the back. I know this because he got up to get another can of Special Brew from his bag and the back of his trousers were completely flat as though he had plastecine in his pants and it had moulded itself to the shape of his seat.

As we sat their talking, he broke off and informed the African opposite that he should piss off back to Pakistan. The African later told me he had attempted to do that but didn't know where Pakistan was.

As the train rattled on to the station and then stopped, a small party of schoolchildren got on the train, they were so pretty in their pleated skirts and bows in their hair. The EDL supporter lost interest in the muslamic rayguns and just kept smiling and staring at the young children, a very small bulge appearing in his trousers around about the area of his piss stain. He leaned forward and told one of the young girls that he liked the way she had her hair and that he had a camera at home and would very much like to take her picture...but that she shouldn't tell her mummy or daddy about it because mummmy and daddies don't really understand about things like that.

After the teacher had gathered up her crying children and got off at the next train station prematurely, the EDL man carried on his conversation at me.

He told me that if the government didn't stop all the muslamics coming into the country then the whole of the Britain would be muslamic within five years. He then involuntarily lost conscience and his piss stain grew larger.

I went home and thought long and hard about what this middle-aged tramp, sorry, edl supporter had said to me and did lots of searching on the internet about the terrible social problems the UK is facing as outlined by this man.

What I found was a spectacular video of the Icelandic volcano erupting in Iceland, a video of a jumbo jet crashing somewhere in central America and some footage of the moon landings that I hadn't seen before.

Well, thats my encounter with the EDL.

I hope its of some use to you all. I just thought you'd all want to know.

According to the BBC, police have seized a consignment of 2000 muslamic rayguns at Harwich docks earlier today. Port authorities and police are expected to issue a statement later today.

According to a BBC source inside the docks, who we cannot name because he is not authorised to speak to the press, the rayguns are of an advanced design and probably originate from Iran. The guns are beleived to have been set to kill not stun and are fully charged up ready for use. It is also believed that the rayguns have been shipped from a site in Iran that is suspected of being used to build an atomic bomb, or possibly several atomic bombs.

The rayguns are capable of firing hot plasma as a laser beam in a wobbly trajectory that may or may not hit the target they have been aimed at. They carry a distinctive blue and red colouring with a vaccum pump at the top of the weapon, thought to be some kind of muslamic raygun gas accelerator. The weapons can be fired by anybody by a simple trigger mechanism much like a normal gun, except this one fires wobbly laser beams indiscriminately at the target and may or may not hit whatever it has been fired at. The innacuracy of the weapon is probably the result Iranian engineering which is completely incompetent but competent enough to build and manufacture atomic bombs.

According to Shlomo Feinberger of the Institute for Harmony and Understanding in International Affairs Against Iran (IHUIAAI), the weapon has been known about ever since the designer thought about it in 1996.

"We first realised the Iranian's were working on this weapon after the designer sketched a drawing of the gun on the back of a post-it note while he was having dinner with his family in Tehran." said Shlomo. "Our security operatives recorded the sketch in real time using remote viewing telepathic mind CCTV mind-warp technology only available in Israel. We hurriedly rushed the diesgn into out THUNDERBIRD lab and realised that it was a muslamic raygun."

"Soon after, we assigned our top minds to the job and emergency alerted our air defence bases who immediately bombed Gaza repeatedly. The international community told us to stop but we had an excuse, the Iranians were working on a muslamic raygun design and if they actually managed to build it, that could spell the end of all human life on planet earth. The Gazan authorities told us that it had nothing to do with them but we all knew that was a lie because they are Muslims and Muslims always lie about everything anyway."

But what is the significance of these weapons turning up in the UK?

"Well, its obvious, the muslamic rayguns are to be used by English Muslims to take over the UK in a surprise attack involving weapons that shoot out wobbly indisciminate laser beams that don't usually hit whatever it is they have been aimed at. If the Muslamics get hold of these weapons, then the UK will be overun by muslamics and everybody Britain will have to be invaded by the Americans and the Mossad to liberate you."

It is understood that Cobra met in secret this afternoon to assess the significance of the rayguns and the Iranian ambassador has been expelled from the UK in protest at Iran developing nuclear atomic bombs...and muslamic rayguns.

Full story...

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20314062

Picture: A muslamic raygun in use during the invasion of the United States by computer generated Mars aliens in 2004. Picture, Hollywood.

I met an EDL supporter outside a demo once - I won't say who but he was a high-profile supporter and something of an intellectual by their standards

I spoke to him for nearly 30 minutes. After that he left the EDL

salt spreaders are out again i see

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Tommy, Hel and Kev still comfortably in-charge after "Uniting The Shite".

All these Muggy Mushrooms attending only made them stronger.

Reminds me in a way of how all the "loyal BNP patriots helped keep Nick Griffin in power for yonks by not speaking out, and trying to maintain unity!

ONE OF THESE TROLLOPS IS VETERAN NAZI ARTHUR DISBURY, WHO IS VERY EASY TO DISS INDEED FOR HIS LUST OVER HEL GOWER!

It looks like these fascists always exagerate numbers.

But why do the BBC and the police also exagerate numbers also?

Some pro-fash agenda??????

Proud To Be Nazi & Gay

no change. kev and hel still calling shots!

" It looks like these fascists always exagerate numbers. But why do the BBC and the police also exagerate numbers also? Some pro-fash agenda??????"

The BBC is the government, and it is the state broadcaster, so it has a moral investment in the EDL. The EDL is the best way to prevent people demonstrating against the war on Islam that the government is fighting on behalf of the Americans and Israel.

The EDL are a violent organisation and their job is to chill Anarchists and others from taking ownership of the war in the public mind by marching on the streets. The BBC's job is to own the public mind on behalf of whatever government is in power. So the EDL is good as far as the BBC is concerned. The EDL act to prevent peaceful groups from taking control of the public mind which is a direct threat to the BBC and therefore the government.

The BBC have always given far greater importance to the EDL than they ever gave to the anti-war movement.

The BBC, like the Labour and Conservative parties are racist entities and fundamentally subjective organisations. You only need to look at reporting and political posture on dissident Syria as opposed to dissident Bahrain, Kuwait or Qatar for instance to see habitualised bias and subjectivity in favour of U.S. foreign policy.

It was the same with Libya too. In Mali, the French and U.K. have become confident enough to divide the task of enacting US policy between them. There is no coherent opposition to this policy so I suppose the EDL as a tactic has been a worthwhile investment.

If you want to test this premise, make strongly anti US and anti UK statements in some forum where the EDL are present and then watch for an immediate uptick in EDL activity. You can set your watch by it!

If you fight against the EDL, you are by default fighting against this racist monopoly of authoritarian sectarian violence called the Transatlantic Alliance. The fight against the EDL, is a fight against the state.

In a traditional political sense, the EDL are reactionaries, and reactionaries are always in bed with the state when the state is being challenged.

>> The BBC is the government, and it is the state broadcaster, so it has a moral investment in the EDL. The EDL is the best way to prevent people demonstrating against the war on Islam that the government is fighting on behalf of the Americans and Israel.

Horse shit.


>> The EDL are a violent organisation and their job is to chill Anarchists and others from taking ownership of the war in the public mind by marching on the streets. The BBC's job is to own the public mind on behalf of whatever government is in power. So the EDL is good as far as the BBC is concerned. The EDL act to prevent peaceful groups from taking control of the public mind which is a direct threat to the BBC and therefore the government.

Cow shit


>> The BBC have always given far greater importance to the EDL than they ever gave to the anti-war movement.

Goat shit


>> The BBC, like the Labour and Conservative parties are racist entities and fundamentally subjective organisations. You only need to look at reporting and political posture on dissident Syria as opposed to dissident Bahrain, Kuwait or Qatar for instance to see habitualised bias and subjectivity in favour of U.S. foreign policy.

Sheep shit


>> It was the same with Libya too. In Mali, the French and U.K. have become confident enough to divide the task of enacting US policy between them. There is no coherent opposition to this policy so I suppose the EDL as a tactic has been a worthwhile investment.

Chicken shit


>> If you want to test this premise, make strongly anti US and anti UK statements in some forum where the EDL are present and then watch for an immediate uptick in EDL activity. You can set your watch by it!

Pig shit


>> If you fight against the EDL, you are by default fighting against this racist monopoly of authoritarian sectarian violence called the Transatlantic Alliance. The fight against the EDL, is a fight against the state.

Dog Shit


>> In a traditional political sense, the EDL are reactionaries, and reactionaries are always in bed with the state when the state is being challenged.

Cat shit

All of that with the BBC and the EDL is so true. I worked for the BBC and we were all told that the EDL were a serious threat and we had to do as many stories as we could on them, exploring every possible angle.

It was only when I left the BBC that I realised that the threat was actually an excuse to publicize them at every opportunity.

Thats the way it is at the Beeb, everybody is encouraged to believe that nobody knows what's going on, but the daily output ends up being very deliberate and well thought out nonetheless.

I never got to see the people who actually decided what got covered and what didn't. Even the journalist that you see actually reading the news to you dont have any say on the stories that make the running order.

Its like people came one day and scooped out the BBC's brain and took it away to somewhere secret. We still make decisions, but nobody knows who chooses what we get to decide from.

Now I work for another organisation, its still the same deal, but we know who is trying to get one over on us, so its pretty easy to steer around it and do the work you know is in the public interest and not just simply work that meets with the approval of some party machine worker.