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Sunday Times story, lessons to be learnt

Ian | 08.07.2012 13:55 | Smash EDO | Anti-racism

The extensive story today in the Sunday Times asks questions of all of us involved in radical politics and campaigns. That Smash EDO comes out looking bad perhaps predictable as most of the information the paper has is a result of a private detective infiltrator however there are facts which we need to face.

The infiltration of Smash EDO by private detective who was presumably in the pay of EDO shows once again how we must assume that infiltrators will always target campaigns that are making a difference, this is something we can take pleasure from - we are making them sweat. However we must understand how once a campaign is targeted the infiltrators can be successful as was listed in the article when the author talked about "reducing participants as a priority". The success that was achieved in this area is one we can all now understand, in short the campaign was nobbled.

The second key area in the article is one that will proably receive more attention, the deliberate decision to exclude three campaign supporters from active involvement because of their religion with one of those involved saying that legal proceedings are process. No debate needed here, this was wrong and although it may have been done for reasons that seemed ok at the time a mistake was made and needs to be faced up to.

Mistakes have been made, that is true but this was a campaign targeted by a well funded, motivated group with a determination to see it fail, the fact that they contributed to that failure with a major intake is really immaterial.

Ian

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Link to ST smear article

08.07.2012 14:16

 http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/sitesearch.do?querystring=Smash+EDO&sectionId=2&p=sto&bl=on&pf


Publishing an article based on the story of a police infiltrator and two Zionists is a long was from being credible. Has anybody considerd the three may have been asked to leave for reasons other than was what stated in the piece ? What was their motivation in joining in the first place, why would three Jewish people join a campaign that targets Israel ? What are their links to the Israeli military ?

This article poses more questions than it answers

Brighton lad


Some people certainly are trying hard

08.07.2012 14:43

Hm...so, where is the evidence of this non-existant article, then?

Sigh


For 'sigh'

08.07.2012 14:56

Link to Sunday Times article here

 http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/sitesearch.do?querystring=Smash+EDO&sectionId=2&p=sto&bl=on&pf=all



Some people just don't want to see the truth.

Info giver


Use a search engine

08.07.2012 15:00

Five secsonds with a major search engine provides the link to the Sunday Times article, surprised you couldn't find it. It's almost as though you didn't want to. It only costs a quid to view it. Well worth it to read the story of the most comprehensive infiltration of a campaign since Mark Kennedy

/www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/sitesearch.do?querystring=Smash+EDO&sectionId=2&p=sto&bl=on&pf=all

Sergey


Link to Times article

08.07.2012 15:02

www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/sitesearch.do?querystring=SmasshEDO

Leo


Only the story is not here, it is?

08.07.2012 15:05

Just loads of several year old Smash EDO related stories which we have all seen before...

fact


Trying hard

08.07.2012 15:16

Link to article provided
Story easily found on search engine
Times list it on their search system



Some people are really determined not to see the story. Let's assume you have seen and read it what is your view of those people asked to leave, was it deserved ? Do you know who the infiltrator was, do you feel he/she comments we're accurate ?

Reader


2009

08.07.2012 15:33

haha someone living in the distant past or just bleeding desperate?

4nti_c0P


I'm no pacifist but

08.07.2012 15:40

the man who said this "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." has always proven to be correct.

Keep on keepin on Smash EDO!

4nti_c0P


what article

08.07.2012 15:47

Although I really despise SmashEDO with a venomous hatred and would love to see them fail
....... I can't find the article.

The links are bullshit. Just show articles from 2005 and 2009
The poster seems to be going "its easy, just search for it on search engine etc"............ well it cant be that easy as i cant find it.

help


You can't find it because...

08.07.2012 15:52

...the story is made up. Sorry to disappoint.

T


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