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National march against vivisection in newcastle

Close Newcastle Animal Lab | 27.05.2012 23:21 | Animal Liberation | Sheffield | World

Anti Vivisectionist Activists take to the streets to say NO to animal testing inside newcastle death labs
With one voice we told Newcastle university death labs Vivisection is a LIE so WHY HAVE THE ANIMALS GOT TO DIE

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Close Newcastle Animal Lab


Yesterday (May 26th) saw 60-70 activists from all over the UK attending the National March and Rally Against Newcastle’s Death Labs.

With Banners, placards and posters activists took to the streets to protest and say “Close Newcastle Animal Lab”. Setting off from ‘The Centre of Life’ and Marching through the heart of Newcastle activists chanted “close Newcastle animal lab” and “vivisection is a lie why have the animals got to die”. The campaigners were cheered and clapped on with the public showing utmost support for our campaign against the vile death labs.

People were horrified to find out Newcastle University were responsible for and complacent in the deaths of thousands of poor defenceless animals every single year. The public were even more shocked to find out the Newcastle lab uses primates – this horrified and shocked people!

The activists arrived at Kings Gate Business and Student Services department to hold a rally at Professor Chris Brinks’ (university vice chancellor) door.

Dr Adrain Stallwood from Animal Aid addressed the crowd first:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hKQ_eRwNiWg

Then our very own Jon Procer spoke to the crowd :
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YYbFpejM7bk

Jons speech hit a sore nerve as he was heckled by a vivisector from Newcastle University making the most bizarre point ever “We dont test on puppies and dogs, we test on primates” – I mean really?

Tino Verducci spoke about the green hills campaign and how to help animal liberation world wide.

Then a speaker from Manchester Animal Action got up and spoke about the up coming demonstration against Manchester University.

After the speeches, activists held a fifteen minute rally at Kings Gate with chants “Blood Blood Blood on your hands” and “VIVISECTION IS A LIE WHY HAVE THE ANIMALS GOT TO DIE “

After fifteen minutes it was time to go to the death labs, marching past all the offices, chants of “Blood blood blood on your hands” rained out.

After a ten minute march activists arrived at the Gates of Hell (ie. Newcastle University “Medical” School).
Upon arriving activists went to the main door of the labs and lit twenty two candles in commemoration to all that lost there lives inside this disgusting lab. Activists also lay flowers and lay placards then held a two minute silence.

After the two minutes silence chanting of “CLOSE NEWCASTLE ANIMAL LAB” rang out as loud as possible. Activists left Newcastle University in no doubt what we want – Close the labs!

Jon Procer then spoke about what the lab dose and how 22 thousand experiments were carried out last year inside this hell hole lab.

The rally at the gates of hell lasted about an hour then we took off back for town marching back into Newcastle city centre people clapped waived and shouted in support of what we were doing.

We marched back to the set off point holding a ten minute rally with closing speeches and thanking every one for coming.

Around twenty of us then headed for a nice vegan meal at Jack Sprats vegan cafe *  http://www.jackspratscafe.co.uk/* and a social event.

Close Newcastle Animal Labs campaign would like to thanks

Manchester animal action *  http://manchesteranimalaction.wordpress.com/

Ethical Voice For Animals  http://ethicalvoiceforanimals.org.uk/

Animal Aid (Dr Adrian Stallwood) * http://www.animalaid.org.uk

Animal Equality  http://www.animalequality.net/

For all there support in this march.

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Why so few?

27.05.2012 23:50

I'm in London and could not afford to come up. But I'd heard about the demo-very sad so few people care about their fellow beings. If Newcastle United had won the league there'd have been hundreds of thousands on the streets. What a fucked up world.

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For "Why so few"

28.05.2012 06:50

Numbers for all AR related demos are in decline not just ours. Yes we were a little dispirited to see so few turn up particularly as the weather was good which usually boosts numbers however as long as there are animals in cages some of us will ALWAYS be there to protest.

Do YOU have any ideas of how to boost support ?

One of 'Close Newcastle Animal Lab '

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Why is AR support declining in the UK ?

28.05.2012 08:09

The general decline in support for AR in Britain can be traced to a number of factors.

1 Good PR control by the State and Pharma companies, we were portrayed and described as "extremists' on such a regular basis that the idea stuck in the public mind.

2 Medical arguments, the overwhelming majority of people think that vivisection is justifiable in the treatment of disease despite what we of course know. We have failed to get the truth over.

3 Infighting, the arguments between factions (encouraged I'm sure by State agents and infiltrators) weakened several groups like SHAC who were beginning to win.

4 Harsh prison sentences. Prison lengths that were way out of proportion to the so called offences scared a lot of people off and reduced a willingness to take part in actions.

5 Leadership - Key people locked up and when released tagged and forced to live without contact or involvement in AR work. These were the individuals who drove the movement and now there are really none doing that.

Jan

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Why I stopped

28.05.2012 08:37

I stopped supporting SHAC when I found out where most of the contributions went, it's really as simple as that.

 http://shacwatch.blogspot.com/

In my personal capacity

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SHAC is winning !!!

28.05.2012 08:55

Despite the efforts of the troll above who talks about SHAC being weakened nothing could be further from the truth.

SHAC is a strong growing campaign that is very, very close to closing HLS

However we have very limited resources and the persecution by the governments in both the UK and USA has depleted our reserves so financial contributions are welcome to help the work. SHAC always wins because we never give up.



Until all are free

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The reason why there was so few

28.05.2012 10:58

The sunny weather won! :-)

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@ acac

28.05.2012 11:09

The reason why there'd be 'hundreds if not thousands' Newcastle United had won the league is because football is a lot more fun than any protest will ever be.

Protests are limited and get little attention, if not more so because of particular individuals in the protest like Jon act dogmatic and patronising to the point that it loses public support. Re think your strategies and keep your distance from Jon.

anon

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Re: "Why no support"

28.05.2012 11:20

Two words - "Bigger Issues"

AR work was fine before the cuts and financial crises that is seeing people lose their jobs, homes and futures. Don't get me wrong, AR is important but simply not as important as other things and as much as we all claim we support multiple groups, ideas and issues the reality is we tend to concentrate on one or two. For me this is Climate Change and the No Cuts movement any AR work I once did has been sidelined for the time being. I would imagine others feel the same.

It's all about choices at the end of the day and what I have chosen simply matters more to me.

No to the cuts !

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@spammers and shacwatch

28.05.2012 11:23

the march went fantastically well
the march attendance could of been better but due to Vegfest and other events we got what we got
60 to 70 of us took to the streets in protest to the uni death labs

so can the indy mods please delete the spammers above this is getting beyond a joke

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Pointless name calling

28.05.2012 11:29

I'm not sure how describing me as "patronising" and "dogmatic" for listing real reasons why the UK AR movement is in such crises right now is very helpful. I prefer to try and analyse why we have gone wrong, learn from it and make progress.

Of course we could also follow the fantasy viewpoint of SHAC where the say above,
"SHAC is a strong growing campaign that is very, very close to closing HLS"

Does anybody really believe any part of that statement ?

Jan

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Another example

28.05.2012 12:19

"the march went fantastically well "

See what I mean.



As long as those organising marches are claiming massive success every time regardless of what happened we will never improve. 60-70 people for a march of this kind is a failure whatever way you look at it and putting the blame on a Veggie festival is just silly. It was not that long ago we would see 400-500 for a march like this.

We need to improve our media strategy, enlist the help of more mainstream individuals for talking to the media (multi-coloured dreads, bad clothes and an attitude problem play nicely into the hands of lazy journos). Money needs to be spent on handouts that tell the truth about the medical case for vivisection.


One last thing calling those of us that are trying to help names and accusing us of being shacwatch doesn't help.

Jan

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Mods - do your job

28.05.2012 12:22

GET RID OF THESE COMMENTS


HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO ASK THIS ?????

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TROLLS COPS AND ARSEHOLES

28.05.2012 12:22

i see that the trolls the cops and the arseholes have appeared on this threat

well done comrades fantastic event on saturday came from leeds to this demo and was fantastic
dont let these cops /trolls and arsehols get you down

Spammer alert

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Uncomfortable truth = cries of "Troll"

28.05.2012 12:25

So very predictable. AR people really do not criticism of any kind do they ?

No wonder support is falling.

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Reality

28.05.2012 12:42

The trolls can try all they like but the reality does not change. This was a massively successful march and series of speeches that I for one am very proud off. We faced enormous competition in Vegfest being on at the same time and despite that still drew the massive numbers we did - a fantastic success.

70-80 people is an unheard off number of supporters for a regional march of this type and I'm sure others in animal rights and anti vivisection groups can only dream of having this level of support.

We did great.

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Why the accusations of "trolling" ?

28.05.2012 12:51

A great deal of the animal rights work in the UK is at present related to fund raising and a sudden focus on the individuals involved in that has led to harrasement and stalking as they try to protect that income.

When the leaders of SHAC were sent to prison some individuals who were once middle ranking suddenly found themselves in positions where they had access to the substantial funds raised through street collections in the name of animal welfare. They are working very hard to protect this income and the lifestyle it affords them and as a consequence those true AR people who care about animals and not the money have been under attack for attempting to expose the scandal.

Indymedia UK which in theory is an open reporting newswire for the activist community has a number of SHAC/AR friendly editors as part of the organising collective running the site and they have worked hard to quickly remove any articles which make clear these incidents.
Articles critical of SHAC/AR are dealt with by following an established pattern, the poster is labeled a "Troll", this is a catch all phrase that Indymedia editors use when they do not like what has been said, the poster is ridiculed and a number of regular posters write replies calling them liars. After about 24 hours the post is first hidden and then removed altogether from the Indymedia archive so it cannot be seen by anybody. If this action is commented on then the reponse is to refer to it as "disinformation". Evidence of "trolling" or "disinformation" is never given and communicaiton on the subject blocked.

When a lot of money is at stake people do bad things.

Former IMCister

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Where the fuck are all the mods

28.05.2012 12:55

The quality of moderation here is getting really very bad, people need to pull their fingers out and do the job. All of these comments should have been hidden hours ago but instead they are still here diverting attention from the report of a very important event.

If mods can't be bothered to run the site properly they should step aside and let others do it.

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Not helpful

28.05.2012 13:02

I don't think there is much to be gained in raking over the descions certain people took as to where SHAC's money was spent. Although I personally think buying a house in France was a mistake I full understand how it seemed a good idea at the time.

We need to move on, this march shows how we can still get people on the streets, how the support for the abolition of vivisection is almost immediate once people understand the facts, how widespread the support is once the whole 'extremist' myth is put to bed with FACTS. Muckraking over financial issues from five years ago helps nobody, lets focus on the animals and their suffering.

anon

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Unsure

28.05.2012 13:21

"i see that the trolls the cops and the arseholes have appeared on this threat "

Which one are you ?

fun boy three

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Observation

28.05.2012 14:05

When a relatively small demo causes many people to come out in opposition of it on Indymedia it's nailed on there are trolls in the thread!

Well done trolls, keep up the good work. I'm not much of an A.R. activist but due to the amount of comments I felt compelled to open the thread. I'll bet I'm not the only one.

Oliver Irwell

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Muck-raking

28.05.2012 14:09

It's not muck-raking to get SHAC to give an explanation as to why money that was collected by both street stalls and donations from individual supporters was used to buy a property in France that is to this day lived in by two SHAC people.

In private SHAC insiders admit the truth but they will not in any public forum and that's why people are still unhappy about this today. This issue has been swatted away far too often for my liking and if SHAC is still asking for donations (see post above) then they have a responsibility to say where the money is going. I for one know that Gerrah visited the house in March for a holiday just after she got out and yet we see no reference to it on the SHAC website or in the newsletter.

The property was bought with money that I along with thousands of others gave in the belief it would be used for helping animals and in the fight to close HLS. We were tricked at the very least.

allison

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Stage two commences

28.05.2012 14:14

Stage One - label those asking difficult questions as 'trolls'

Stage Two - hide all posts which ask the difficult questions

Stage Three - hide the posts in the admin section so they cant be seen under 'View All Posts'

Stage Four - Label any questions or comments about the hiding as 'disinformation'

Stage Five - Pretend none of the above happened.

Boringly predictable

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Mods, please hide

28.05.2012 14:16

Mods, please hide all posts referencing the cottage in France.

Thank you.

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Trolls

28.05.2012 14:42

Well why dont you spamming trolls just get lost
this post was about a demonstration and a march that took place Not shac
NOT speak nothing to do with any "front org" its to do with fighting vivisection at newcastle university

will the real Close the labs please stand up

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"spamming trolls"

28.05.2012 15:52

What are you going on about, don't you realise the links between this group and SHAC ?

I suggest you go do some reading and find out the real reason why this demo got such little support.

allison

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Links

28.05.2012 15:56

The reason people are referencing the old SHAC campaign is because several of those now running this campaign were involved with SHAC before it all fell apart and one of them was involved with the choice to buy a property that is now lived in by two prominent SHAC people.

linker

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Mods, please hide

28.05.2012 16:01

Mods,

It is very important that references here to the French cottage are hidden. This was discussed at the collective network meeting back in 2011 and we ask you to abide by that agreement.

Thank you.

SHAC

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Agreement re hiding

28.05.2012 16:26

Actually the agreement reached was that we would hide the names of the people living there if published on the newswire not the existence of the house itself.

That being said this whole thread is pretty boring so I am hiding all the comments.

IMCister

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Followinf orders

28.05.2012 18:16

Always funny to see the Indy mods doing what SHAC tells them

" yes we will hide posits critical of you but please keep sending the money every month"


Give me a lick of the brass ring

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Details and location of house

28.05.2012 18:25

Those who have given money to SHAC over the years may wish to drop by this lovely rural French property and say hello to [details removed]

The address is [details removed]

This beautiful cottage which sold for €270,000 has accomidation for at least six people plus I would suggest crash space for more than ten. Do drop by and say hello I'm sure they would be pleased to see you. I understand [details removed] makes a lovely vegan pie.

Map boy

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Don't care

28.05.2012 19:26

about some cottage in France. Shac obviously were a threat to the system of death and it shows in the utterly over the top sentences some of them got. Trying to save innocents from the most revolting people on this planet and being banged up for up to 6 years beggars belief and those people should commended for their sacrifices. I don't belong to any organisation but go on many demos-Gaza, student, shac, uncut, occupy, mayday, police violence, climate change - it's all connected - there's right and wrong, we could change the world but most people are ignorant or just don't give a shit as they're brainwashed.
When shit is fucked, it's time to fuck shit up. Applaud those who have the guts to do so.

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Details and location of house, people have a right to know

29.05.2012 09:54

Those who have given money to SHAC over the years may wish to drop by this lovely rural French property and say hello to [details removed]

Address is [details removed]

Lat Long [details removed]




Map Boy

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The Words On The Street

29.05.2012 17:32

Watch out, Jonos about.

Julie

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Trolls again

29.05.2012 19:01

Admins im sorry to bug you but the trolls are spitting there dummys out there prams again can you delete the comments please

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cant help

29.05.2012 23:17

No, we are busy doing other stuff that urgently needs doing. It is very important and cannot wait.

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another

30.05.2012 19:35

failure

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The Words On The Street

03.06.2012 11:03

Everybody knows, what a sham you and NAR are..

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