Solidarity with Iran
No more Imperialist wars | 20.02.2012 09:27
We object by the attempts by the British media following orders from its Zionist owners to misinform the people here about the true situation in Iran.
The Iranian government has repeatedly made clear its nuclear research programme is entirely for peaceful purposes but despite this the war mongers of London, Washington and Jerusalem are attempting to create the circumstances to justify another illegal war.
Fresh from the profits they have earned in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya the Zionist war machine is ready for its next money making opportunity with control of the Iranian oil fields to be added to the Iraqi and Libyan collection.
Resist now !
Take to the streets !
General strike !
Fresh from the profits they have earned in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya the Zionist war machine is ready for its next money making opportunity with control of the Iranian oil fields to be added to the Iraqi and Libyan collection.
Resist now !
Take to the streets !
General strike !
No more Imperialist wars
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Iran's useful idiots
20.02.2012 10:11
bill
Zionist owners ?
20.02.2012 10:20
Confused
Remove this post immediately
20.02.2012 10:47
Yes the USA etc may be warmongers by my enemy's enemy is in this case still Fascist
Jean
Zionist troll
20.02.2012 11:27
For other readers however I am pleased to provide details"
Sky Group / Fox / Times newspapers- owner Ruper Murdoch - Known Zionist.
Telegraph Group - David and Frederick Barclay - known Zionist.
BBC - run by Zionist sympathizers
Channel 4 - Zionist funded and controlled
No more Imperialist wars
@ Jean
20.02.2012 11:28
Not Fooled
How many bombs shall we drop today
20.02.2012 11:29
You want this war?
Please remove this article
20.02.2012 11:29
Never with the mullahs regime
Please remove this post which supports a fascist regime
The US and the Mullahs are as bad as each other, we don't need to choose between them we need to rebel against all of them
No Gods No Masters
azadi
IMC is still free
20.02.2012 11:40
Long live Indymedia
Viva Palestine
You are being lied to
20.02.2012 11:45
Iran is none of these things. Iran has a religious leadership in the same way the UK does with clerics involved with parliament, nothing more than that. Reports of homophobia are simply representative of a society that is less tolerant than our own in the same way that much of the USA is. As for authoritarian that is simply wrong, they have a vibrant free democracy with rights and votes for all.
Don't believe what the UK media tells you.
Knot-Eyed Jaguar
Who to believe ?
20.02.2012 12:42
The Jewish hating, useful idiots of the progressive media.
Rule 1
Support the people, ignore the money and power and both sides.
No clearer
@ Knot-Eyed Jaguar
20.02.2012 13:06
Why don't you try visiting Tehran and holding up some signs in support of gay rights then? See how long it takes for the local Basij to bundle you into a van and give you a good kicking.
Vibrant free democracy with rights and votes for all? Yeah right.
If you're going to post lies, at least try to keep them based in reality.
Against homophobia
Gay rights
20.02.2012 13:36
Knot-Eyed Jaguar
trolling?
20.02.2012 15:35
But I can't decide if that is what we are seeing here, or just some hasbarah trolling to try to make out that opponents of Israel are all antisemitic supporters of authoritarian theocracies.
Either way, isn't one of Indymedia's rules that posts shouldn't be supporting hierarchical power structures?
anon
We hated the last regime, we hate this regime and we will hate the next regime
20.02.2012 15:40
Fisk summed up the results of that intervention in one paragraph:
"John McCain backed the good guys in Libya, who are now keenly torturing their opponents to death."
and Medicines Sans Frontieres in declaring its reasons for leaving the detention centre at Misrata said:
"This is unacceptable. Our role is to provide medical care to war casualties and sick detainees, not to repeatedly treat the same patients between torture sessions."
So, we can spend our time our time backing regimes and their attacks or we can start thinking of better ways to spend our time.
The belligerence is not coming from Iran - we just keep being misquoted the line about wiping Israel opff the map. Its coming from the shits in our governments, who plan to use the weaponry produced in our arms factories to kill more people trying to get on with their lives, and spread even more hatred.
You want this war?
@ Knot-Eyed Jaguar
20.02.2012 21:30
To claim that either Iran or the USA is a vibrant free democracy with rights and votes for all is nothing short of an outright lie. Hierarchical states can never be vibrant free democracies because all the power is held by a minority who have no qualms about using violence to maintain the status quo.
Clearly neither Iran nor the USA have good records. Both use the death penalty, both routinely use torture, both actively engage in the violent suppression of political movements, both actively spy on their citizens and have legislation to control and curtail free speech and communications, both routinely engage in supporting domestic and overseas terrorism (although both publicly deny it), etc.
Against homophobia
Indy mods encouraging solidarity with FASCISM
20.02.2012 23:00
In the past Indy mods spiked a post on grounds that advocating tactical support for the GREEN PARTY was engaging in "hierarchical" politics, but, in addition to the obvious, this is the same regime that Nick Griffin tried to suck up to when he was leader of the NF.... congratulations!
Solidarity with the Iranian people - destroy Fascism
Rikkitash
Reasons for not having solidarity with Iran
20.02.2012 23:06
1. They stone people to death. This involves diggin a hole and burying someone up to their waist and then getting a crowd to throw very large rocks at them. I really don't like this at all.
I'm sure knot-eyed jag will go on about the USA and the electric chair - yes very bad - but the difference is the USA does it to murders, Iran does it to people committing adultery and gays. This is not right.
2. How can anyone support the growth of Nuclear technology. I cannot support a country in its aims of proliferating nuclear technology.
3. I don't like these comments from Iran's supreme leader talking about how they are going to wipe Israel off the map. That is talking about genocide. How can i support that? The people of Israel are not evil and should not be exterminated like this guy wants them to be.
4. Frankly, I don't 'trust' Iran's leaders. From their historical behaviour they often do back on their word with regard to nuclear technology. I think they often play a game of stalling whilst getting further and further to nuke technology. I really do have a gut feeling they want the capability of producing a bomb. I cannot support that.
I will assume Know-Eyed Jag will denounce all these points by claiming similarities with the USA and thus trying to dispell the points by saying "well the USA doesn't it, and you're not complaining about then, therefore Iran is ok too."
I'd like to point out that Knot-Eyed Jag doesn't know what i think about XYZ and his pro-stance on Iran and obvious hatred of the USA will not dissuade me from what i believe within my points above.
Axel Greaser
Remove this whole thread
20.02.2012 23:18
As for the issue of "solidarity", will Indymedia be paying the "solidarity price" (see NF News) or paying the (political) price for fake solidarity
Tesh
"This is going to hurt you more than its going to hurt us"
21.02.2012 08:30
Aftermath of a wedding party fired on by US choppers in Iraq
Is it? Iran is the people, the land, the cities, the schools, the factories ..... all of which are due to be attacked while the western forces mutter about collateral damage.
The article says nothing about supporting the regime - although it does question the whole propaganda campaign on which you bloodthirsty keyboard warriors have been fed till you become key accomplices in trying to show that killing kids is the only just and fair thing to do.
Axel-greaser greases the wheels of war by claiming laughably that " the difference is the USA does it to murders, Iran does it to people committing adultery and gays. This is not right. - " Meanwhile the USA along with its allies do it by bombing wedding parties, schools, funeral processions, family homes and those it thinks may be in the wrong with drone attacks from the sky - fuck law, fuck trials, fuck giving them a chance to defend themselves. Axel-greaser seems to have no problem with these repeated barbaric acts which overturn nasty regimes , leaving chaos and equally nasty regimes in place. Axel-greaser should fuck off to a site where they admit that they love racism and imperialism.
Tesh knows more than the IAEA. Tesh knows that the western propaganda is true. Tesh want nuclear powers to kill Iranian people to stop them getting the nuclear powers we have. Tesh no doubt advocated killing Iraqis because they had weapons of mass destruction.....
"As for the issue of "solidarity", will Indymedia be paying the "solidarity price" (see NF News) or paying the (political) price for fake solidarity"
How utterly persuasive. Indymedia is bound to be calling for the slaughter of more babies, more mothers, more sisters and more brothers and fathers when they've learnt to care as much as Tesh does.
You want this war?
We all know the real power behind this dispute
21.02.2012 09:13
Despite the efforts of the Zionist controlled media to convince us otherwise most radical folk understand that the real warmongers and power brokers in the region are the Israelis, a country founded on terrorism and run by war criminals well supported by US and European Jews.
The Iranians have been providing humanitarian supplies to Palestinian freedom fighters who the Jews have attempted to starve into submissiveness and this is described as 'support for Hezbollah". They have a massive arsenal of nuclear weapons but want no one else to have even nuclear power generation including free, democratic and peaceful Iran.
Will the West once again fall for the Zionist media lies and fight another war to protect Jewish baking and industrial interests ?
Viva Palestine
Money
21.02.2012 10:00
The forthcoming attack on Iran is like the wars against other countries all about money:
Iraq - massive oil resources
Afghanistan - enormous mineral finds, raw metals and oil
Libya - Oil
Iran - Oil and Gold
The Zionists need two things to continue the growth of their companies; new markets and new raw materials. The Chinese and Indians are the new markets, these countries are the source of the materials needed. Zionism is about two things, an unquestioning support for Israel and profit.
Knot-Eyed Jaguar
Balance
21.02.2012 14:19
Afghanistan - Country run by religious nutters who oppressed women, gays and minorities
Libya - Popular uprising supported by Western powers
Iran - Prevent religious nutters getting hold of a nuclear weapon they are very likely to use.
Balancer
Balance or Disinformation ?
21.02.2012 14:39
>>>> No evidence of Saddam's so called oppression of the Iraqi people has ever been found.
Afghanistan - Country run by religious nutters who oppressed women, gays and minorities.
>>>> Popular inclusive government which reflected the religious views of the population. No actual evidence of oppressed women or gays ever came to light.
Libya - Popular uprising supported by Western powers.
NATO led invasion and overthrow of a well liked leader who had the support of the vast majority of the people.
Iran - Prevent religious nutters getting hold of a nuclear weapon they are very likely to use.
Elected government in a free democracy seeking the same access to nuclear power that other countries have. No evidence that Iran is building or developing nuclear weapons.
Knot-Eyed Jaguar
Reality.
21.02.2012 18:25
And that, loonies of both the left and the right...is that!
Knot-Eyed Jaguar.
The world according to cross-eyed jaguar
21.02.2012 21:51
>>>> No evidence of Saddam's so called oppression of the Iraqi people has ever been found.
What?! So that little think with chemical weapons on the Kurds was made up then?
Also, perhaps you should try speaking to actually Iraqies rather than getting your info off the internet.
Afghanistan - Country run by religious nutters who oppressed women, gays and minorities.
>>>> Popular inclusive government which reflected the religious views of the population. No actual evidence of oppressed women or gays ever came to light.
What the f***?! Perhaps you should speak to people who actually live there.
Libya - Popular uprising supported by Western powers.
>>>> NATO led invasion and overthrow of a well liked leader who had the support of the vast majority of the people.
What?! When you say "vast majority" would were all the people celebrating in the main squares, where was this vast majority?
Iran - Prevent religious nutters getting hold of a nuclear weapon they are very likely to use.
>>>> Elected government in a free democracy seeking the same access to nuclear power that other countries have. No evidence that Iran is building or developing nuclear weapons.
Knot-Eyed Jaguar
Naive. If you are saying Iran has zero interest in nuclear weapons but just wants to make some power stations, then you are very naive. Iran don't have the capability to build uikes, so of course there is no evidence of building or developing. But there is plenty of evidence that they are developing that capability. And there is plenty of evidence of their intentions (from their mouths).
Animal
In response to 'animal'
22.02.2012 08:41
I assume you believe what you see on the BBC, Sky, CNN etc and fail to understand the role of Israeli troops invading the country and killing civilians to create a situation ready for a UN "humanitarian" invasion. The city of Homs was not and is not being shelled by Syrian troops, the attacks are from Israel aircraft and cruise missiles fired from Israeli submarines.
Knot-Eyed Jaguar.
What ?
22.02.2012 10:20
Do you have any proof to back up these incredible claims ? You do have a reputation for supporting some pretty wild theories but if you can provide real proof of Israeli involvement in the Syrian attacks it would be mind-blowing.
Proof required
Proof
22.02.2012 10:27
Knot-Eyed Jaguar.
Iran is still an oppressive regime
22.02.2012 10:29
D
"it's still an oppressive and horrible regime"
22.02.2012 10:40
How do you know that is true ?
How have you learnt what you know about Iran ?
Have you considered that the western media may have lied to you ?
What will you do if you discover all you think you know about Iran is wrong ?
Knot-Eyed Jaguar
Yep
23.02.2012 22:51
Indymedia is unreliable.
m
Response to Knot-Eyed Jaguar
24.02.2012 04:55
There are many examples I can think of that show the Iranian regime is backward and stuck in the past.
For example:
It is illegal to criticise the Islamic regime.
Women don't haven equal rights (if you don't believe that is true, then just say it and I will explain how women don't have equal rights there)
The regime killed civilians in response to the 2009 protests against Ahmadinejad.
Homosexuality is illegal there (sodomy is punishable by the death penalty).
Adultery is illegal and punishable by the death penalty.
The fact that blasphemy against Islam is illegal and in some cases punishable by the death penalty.
The fact that stonings still take place there.
I could go on with the examples but I think I've already provided enough evidence.
D
Song of the Goy.
24.02.2012 16:10
Iran is backward in so many ways...but what your argument is based on is that Iran should be acted against but other more gruesome regimes can stand untouched. Its a bit like the NeoLiberals in Washington going to war and killing children in the thousands because they are upset over womens rights. Its a complete dead end morally and simply illustrative of a position that is just manipulating opinion by using human rights in order to affect political dogma.
The current inglorious round of hand wringing by the left over Iran is not about Iran, its political posturing over Syria. And the left is not even remotely in control of that narrative.
In the field of human rights you cannot build your case in pieces. You are against human rights abusing regimes in their totality and that means taking a stand against ALL human rights abusers. There is no compromise and there is no posturing.
Anything else is rightly to be waived away by the dismissive hand of public opinion as just another attempt at political chicanery and short-sighted opportunism.
At the moment Israel is penned in completely by revolutionary Islamists. Syria is the last of its supporters and looks to be about to fall. When Syria goes Israel is no longer viable. The Israeli's know this and in an attempt to mount a last ditch defence have decided to 'agitate' western public opinion against Iran.
They do this because Iran is bigger, more organised and presents a much bigger gambit for the US and UK alliance. If the Israeli's can prompt action against Iran, then a suitably sized military umbrella is in place to be used against an imminently emerging hostile Syria.
And the 'left' as usual have gone for the hookbait because the Israeli zionists are skilled at presenting their defence in the langauge of 'imperialism'. Just like they are skilled at re-fashioning anti-zionism into anti-semitism. It will be the left that provide the narrative, it will be the left that march aimlessly in the streets, it will be the left that will dramatise the whole event into prime time TV News, it will be the left that will provide the energy, the motivation and the raison d'etre for any assault...and the zionists will thank them quietly for it!
The terrorists are a lot closer to home than you think!
The War on Terror was opened and waged against the innocent...it yet has the capacity to annihilate the guilty.
We can still make good on this sorry, squalid and bloody-minded conflict.
The Godless Hordes.
In response to "Response to Knot-Eyed Jaguar"
27.02.2012 10:29
The control of nearly all information by Jewish owned or operated organisations is the major reason Israel still exists as a country and free democratic open countries like Iran are vilified without reason. The is clear and compelling evidence that Israel is the principle attacker of the Syrian people and not the Syrian Army as has been claimed by the media however some do not wish to see what is contrary to their views of the world.
Knot-Eyed Jaguar