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Undercover surveillance - Can you identify this man?

ARUK | 08.01.2012 23:44 | Animal Liberation | Repression | Social Struggles

At an animal rights national gathering meeting today this man was caught filming activists and exhibiting other dodgy behaviour, does anyone have any more information on him?

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Bob 1

Bob 2
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Today this man was seen peering through the door window with a camera which he was attempting to obscure under his jacket, into the room in which activists were meeting. Upon being confronted he gave clearly scripted stories, emphasising points that he was 'going to bath tomorrow because it's of historical interest', at several points during the confrontation he put his arm round the neck of activists.

After some debate he allowed activists to camera which he claimed to have bought 4 days before. There had been much opportunity for him to remove the memory card by this point, and they didn't find the footage he had taken.

Not long after this, he was seen in a car with an older man who he appeared to be passing information to. Upon seeing someone they recognised the car left at speed. The registration of the car was RV07V** - the last 2 digits didn't get attained because of the speed with which they left.

He then returned to the community centre in which the meeting was happening and sat reading the same newspaper for nearly 3 hours, with his chair pointed directly at the door (given the layout of the room, it was obvious that the purpose of this was to monitor who entered/left the meeting) until leaving.

He was then spotted turning his reversible jacket inside out not far from the meeting. There were no further sightings.

The people in the meeting do not feel he achieved anything for whoever he was employed by, be it the police or otherwise, but feel people should be made aware of him. It would also be helpful if people could share any other reports they have of him, and any information they might have.

He had a scottish accent, saying he was from Edinburgh, and gave the unoriginal fake name 'Bob'. He was about 6 foot tall, and quite wide as if he worked out.

As activists we're all under threat from state surveillance, whether it comes from the forces of police protecting capitalist interest, or corporations using their wealth for the same purpose, but if we all stand in solidarity with one another we become stronger through our unity than they can be through their wealth. Against repression, against surveillance, against state, until all are free!

ARUK

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No Speculation

09.01.2012 13:54

With all due respect, this has not been posted up here for the sake of random finger pointing or speculation. This is an article based on facts, which there were many witnesses for (not limited to the meeting attendees) and has been posted for the sake of protecting activists and other communities which may be victimized by surveillance. It also serves the purpose of gathering information on the man in question, so to give more chance of identifying him and discovering who sent him.

The incompetence of these social spies is not undocumented, just last year an undercover was sent by a Danish fur company to the International Animal Rights Gathering and people managed to identify him, confront him and remove him within about 4 hours of his arrival due to his complete lack of subtlety.

It would be greatly appreciated if people could refrain from accusing the authors of the article of spreading misinformation, being paranoid, or unjustly accusatory. It is this behavior that creates divides in social movements and weakens us in our struggle against repression. It is also incredibly disrespectful to victims of the incident.

ARUK


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I know him

09.01.2012 09:08

That's Bob R, he's a member of a number of AR groups in Scotland and a frequent Sab, I suggest you take his picture down and do a little more research before posting people's photos and making unsubstantiated suggestions about them.

AR active in Scotland


Monty Python

09.01.2012 09:57

Wow he sounds truly inept!
Good work and thanks for the post, solidarity is the key.
Networks are such strong forms of social fabric. They have much greater integrity than any hierarchy could have. The state and corporate dickheads can't understand this.
We are more powerful than they could possibly imagine, and their situation is very precarious.
It is not too much to hope that the patriarchy could fall and fall soon, it is like a tall tower built on sand held together with lies and fear.

agatha


Decoy for another person?

09.01.2012 10:16

Unless he was really a bungling incompetent (not impossible) maybe he was just a decoy to draw attention away from a colleague who was being more surreptitious?

anon


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here we go

09.01.2012 12:01

If this man was undercover you would expect him to have covert equipment. Places like the SUMAC will be bugged to the teeth anyway. All this gossip and finger pointing isn't good.



M Taylor


PC Mickey Rourke

09.01.2012 14:09

The mere fact he has been photographed and freely given over evidence hardly smacks of an undercover. They are not generally inept, even if their motives are 'off-piste'.

No, this is somebody who WANTS to be identified as an undercover. And who no doubt WANTS to be plastered all over Indymedia.

Yes, he looks like a body builder...he has swollen pectoral muscles and a fake tan. Probably fancies himself as a bit of a ladies man although in reality that means 'ladies for hire'.

Probably a decoy although the police are having problems with funding at the moment, so they almost certainly are having to rely on 'pretending' they are everywhere when in actual fact they are a bit skint. That means undercover availablity for protest monitoring is limited.

Have you noticed the cocky grins they have whenever they are photographed...that usually means the CO has told them to smile if challenged...helps maintain the illusion of effortless dominance which I suppose is supposed to have a chilling effect.

Knot-Eyed Jaguar.


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Clueless

09.01.2012 14:39

M Taylor will make friends with him, he's an expert when it comes to allowing plod to his social circle, home, car and family !

Henry Street


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here we go

09.01.2012 14:55

Clueless, I am aware of the tittle tattle that has gone on over the past few years while I was unable to defend myself but a grass in a new addition to the tittle tattle.

So now I am a NF supporter, drug runner raising cash for the movement and now a grass..

It is easy to write about people on a social network site but impossible to provide evidence/fact to support such stupid claims, water off a ducks back to me.

Now I am free from police control I am in a position to say "put your money where your mouth is" and provide something other than malicious gossip.

You are not even aware that I no longer live on Henry Street in Wakefield, I live in Somersalherbert derbyshire and have for years now....

M Taylor


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clueless

09.01.2012 14:58

I noticed you haven't got the balls to put your name to it ;)

What does that say about you?

M Taylor


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Cunning Cunnane ?

09.01.2012 15:50

I know the area well, I was on Bowling Alley Lane recently. Has your personal hygiene improved ? I heard you were a very willing little bitch in HMP..... And your doing all these naughty things now, tut,tut. Well if you transport Policemen and Women in your car, welcome them in to your house and tell them all your plans to do naughty things you might be picking the soap up again soon......I heard the 6ft 8 inch armed robber had you answering to the name 'Mandy' ....

Henry Street


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Cunning Cunnane

09.01.2012 16:24

Is this the best you can do? Still hiding behind a keyboard I see ;)

I would be more interested seeing something that would support your stupid rants...
You read far too many fantasy books.

Water off a ducks back, JJ.

M Taylor


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get a room!

09.01.2012 16:34


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outraged of haversham


some trolling going on here?

09.01.2012 16:49

Seems like some trolling going on here - some loser with an obsessive desire to help animal abusers who likes pretending to be people he/she isn't, in an attempt to cause division and dissent?

anon


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anon

09.01.2012 16:59

You can call my mobile to confirm who I am if it is me who you refer to, do you want my number?

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Gregs Puppet the Yorkshire Nuppet..

09.01.2012 19:14

JJ ? Whats that about I wonder ? As for your number, go ahead, why not? You do bite don't you Marky, we were just having a giggle here, remembering the time I ran every toothbrush in your bathroom up and down the crack of my sweaty arse.

Henry Street


@PC Mickey Rourke

09.01.2012 22:47

I think Knot-Eyed Jaguar's analysis is spot on.

>> Yes, he looks like a body builder...he has swollen pectoral muscles and a fake tan. Probably fancies himself as a bit of a ladies man although in reality that means 'ladies for hire'.

Good analysis. This guy looks SAS to me, tan is from recent work overseas in Afghanistan and he has come here for some R&R and some soft intelligence work as a new burn man whos ident can be revealed without too much risk to the operation. Once clocked, he'll be back on covert operations again against foreign forces, this is just some moonlight training for these guys in domestic intelligence work.


>> Probably a decoy although the police are having problems with funding at the moment, so they almost certainly are having to rely on 'pretending' they are everywhere when in actual fact they are a bit skint. That means undercover availablity for protest monitoring is limited.

Very true, thats why they bring these guys in, gives them experience of intelligence and convert work whilst increasing numbers but at same time they can afford to be identified.


>> Have you noticed the cocky grins they have whenever they are photographed...that usually means the CO has told them to smile if challenged...helps maintain the illusion of effortless dominance which I suppose is supposed to have a chilling effect.

Yeah... Its easy work for these guys. Not getting shot at or at any risk, so pretty easy to be relaxed and laugh at it. These guys are highly trained in jason bourne type skills so they aint got any worries about protesters. This deep insertion cover but relative low risk so good training for covert operations within an urban domestic theatre.

ops team omega


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I know who you are

09.01.2012 22:56

to the drunken dick who "remembering the time I ran every toothbrush in your bathroom up and down the crack of my sweaty arse." yeah, you shot your mouth off about that story before you pissed twat. well done dickwad you clueless fuck will be passing on hahaaaaaaaaa!

your 'friend'


re

10.01.2012 00:45

I may have been a little naive in saying he was inept.
The above analysis is much better, thanks.

agatha


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SAS ?

10.01.2012 07:12

You must be joking: You really think the State uses resources like SAS soldiers to observe a few AR people, they have more important jobs to do ?

As for being a "body builder and tanned" being proof ? SAS soldiers laugh at body builders who are all show and no go and as for tanned in Afghanistan I suggest you take a look at the weather there right now.

Some people are just delusional

My best mate's brother's school friend is in the SAS


lol @ ops team omega!

10.01.2012 09:52

Classic troll - it certainly gave me a chuckle!

"highly trained in jason bourne type skills" was what gave it away though.

More like steroid injecting skills than man down the pub "SAS" I think...!

anon


the things is

31.01.2012 14:02


he's been around for years.......

Paul


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