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Thank you Joker for not playing with Israeli Apartheid

London Rhymes with Palestine | 17.12.2011 17:35 | Anti-racism | Palestine | Terror War | World

Joker (Dubstep) was due to play in Tel Aviv for Hanukkah celebrations on 20th December 2011. He was contacted by fans on Facebook asking him to cancel his performance and not support Israeli Apartheid. Joker aksed his fans what he should do and after understanding their replies drew his own decision on the matter.

Joker (Dubstep)
Joker (Dubstep)

Joker asks fans what they think about the fb page started asking him to cancel
Joker asks fans what they think about the fb page started asking him to cancel

Joker draws his own conclusion with his early morning statement
Joker draws his own conclusion with his early morning statement

Israeli propogandists begin to post racist photos which they believe will help
Israeli propogandists begin to post racist photos which they believe will help

In reality, Israel shoots Palestinian children with precision targets to kill
In reality, Israel shoots Palestinian children with precision targets to kill

Palestinian children are often kidnapped and detained w/o charge by Israel
Palestinian children are often kidnapped and detained w/o charge by Israel


Joker (Dubsteps) asked his fans on Facebook last night whether the Facebook page asking him not to perform in Tel Aviv on 20th December and to observe the Palestinian call to boycott Apartheid Israel was 'mad'. His fans replied and by 5am we had his decision.

Joker, a UK Dubstep musical artist from Bristol announced he will be playing Tel Aviv on 20th December 2011 at Clutch (4 Ha'taarouca St.).
 https://www.facebook.com/events/144749992300607/

Fans contacted Joker on his official Facebook page and created a page titled ‘Joker (Dubstep) Cancel your Tel Aviv show - Say NO to Apartheid Israel’. After seeing this page posted on his wall, Joker asks, ‘am i crazy by thinking this guy is a mad! man….or is he actually right?

 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Joker-Dubstep-Cancel-your-Tel-Aviv-trip-Say-NO-to-Apartheid-Israel/192297827530142

Within 2 hours there were over 76 messages of reply posted by fans, largely supporting the proposed ‘mad man’ and in unison, asking Joker to cancel his performance inTel Aviv and support the Palestinian civil call for a global boycott ofIsrael.  https://www.facebook.com/jokerofficialpage

One fan replied ‘You're doing your thing, not supporting apartheid. Don't let these haters stop you...’ and another ‘Playing in Israel does note = Apartheid sponsor. Do your thing bruh’

The RussellTribunal session held in South Africa in November 2011, found that the entire state of Israel (not just the occupied territories) is guilty of the crimes of Apartheid and persecution. Jury members included Alice Walker who met Martin Luther King Jr. as a student and credits King for her decision to return to the American South as an activist for the Civil Rights Movement. She marched with thousands in the 1963 March on Washington and volunteered to register black voters in Georgia and Mississippi; and Ronnie Kasrils, a veteran of the South African anti-apartheid struggle and a former member of Nelson Mandela's government.

 http://www.russelltribunalonpalestine.com/en/sessions/south-africa
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Walker

In July 2011, the South African advertising & media watchdog (ASA) ruled that Israel can be called an Apartheid State, after dismissing a complaint by the South African Jewish Board of Deputies that to do so was “untrue, not supported by any evidence…and contains a lie which amounts to false propaganda”. Reggae DJ the Admiral, a member of South African Artists Against Apartheid, welcomed the ruling: "The ASA decision is significant due to our own history of Apartheid. The decision sends a clear message to the Zionist lobby that the time has come for an end to the baseless accusations of 'discrimination' and 'hate speech' whenever criticism of Israelis voiced. Calling Israel an Apartheid state is legitimate because Israel practices Apartheid. The boycott of such an oppressive regime should be supported as it was in our own Anti-Apartheid freedom struggle."

 http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/news/africa/2580-south-african-advertising-and-media-watchdog-rules-that-israel-can-be-called-an-qapartheidq-state

In 2004, the International Courts of Justice (ICJ) ruled that the Israeli Apartheid wall being built around the West Bank was illegal and should be dismantled. As a result of the subsequent failure of world leaders to implement this ICJ decision, in 2005 the Palestinian Civil society called for a global people’s response to launch broad boycotts, implement divestment initiatives and to demand sanctions against Israel (BDS), until Palestinian rights are recognised in full compliance with international law.

 http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?pr=71&code=mwp&p1=3&p2=4&p3=6&ca

The BDScampaign is shaped by a rights-based approach and urges various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law by:

1. Ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands occupied in June 1967 and dismantling the Wall;

2. Recognizing the fundamental rights of theArab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality; and

3. Respecting, protecting and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194.

Israel seeks to whitewash its Apartheid crimes by purposely seeking to boost its image internationally through musical culture. As part of the boycott, academics, artists and consumers are campaigning against such collaboration and ‘rebranding’.  http://www.bdsmovement.net/

A growing number of artists have refused to exhibit or play in Israel. As one fan posted on Jokers’ wall - ‘Macy Gray [said]: “I had a reality check and I stated that I definitely would not have played there if I had known even the little that I know now.”

 http://twitter.com/#!/MacyGraysLife/status/132598638823223297

The comment also included a statement by ‘Faithless: “We’ve been asked to do some shows this summer in your country and, with the heaviest of hearts, I have regretfully declined the invitation. While human beings are being willfully denied not just their rights but their needs for their children and grandparents and themselves, I feel deeply that I should not be sending even tacit signals that this is either ‘normal’ or ‘ok’.”

Other Joker fans wrote of Arch Bishop Desmond Tutus words when supporting the recent ‘OneWorld’ song ‘Freedom for Palestine’ (featuring Feat: Maxi Jazz (Faithless), Dave Randall (Slovo/Faithless), LSK, the Durban Gospel Choir, and others), where in a video he says ‘I have visited the occupied Palestinian territories and have witnessed the humiliation of Palestinians at Israeli military checkpoints. The inhumanity that won’t let ambulances reach the injured, farmers tend their land or children attend school. This treatment is familiar to me and the many black South Africans that who were corralled & harassed by the security forces of the apartheid government.  http://youtu.be/yZveHdjtoNw

A fan posted to Jokers wall similar sentiment expressed by Alice Walker [who said] "Going through Israeli checkpoints is like going back in time to American Civil Rights struggle...I am a big supporter of BDS. I frankly think that it is the best, absolutely the best way."

 http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/resources/interviews/3104-alice-walker-qgoing-through-israeli-checkpoints-is-like-going-back-in-time-to-american-civil-rights-struggleq

After numerous posts Joker replied ‘jake i nothing of no war no nothing all i know is music i evan forget how old i am’

Joker may not know about war or his age but one thing for certain, Joker fans made him aware of the reality of Israeli apartheid. The only question left was whether apartheid is something that agrees with the Joker? We waited to see.

Much to our admiration, after a heated night of fans contacting Joker by email, Twitter and Facebook, Joker updated his status on his Facebook page at around 5am to say:

'ok after this crazy night finding out all this shit i have never know! no lie! i wont be going not because of every 1 telling not to but thats shit is MESSSSSSSEED UP'.  https://www.facebook.com/jokerofficialpage

We thank Joker with much respect, for his solidarity, for standing with the People of Palestine and supporting their global call to 'Boycott, Divest from and Sanction' Israel with a view to ending Israeli Apartheid.  http://www.bdsmovement.net/

Thank you brother, in peace and Solidarity.

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Who ?

19.12.2011 06:53

Who is this person ?

I can understand making a fuss if we had convinced a major star not to go but this bloke seems to be a nobody. Is it possible this is a stunt by his record label or management to get publicity ?

Confused


Who is he?

19.12.2011 07:05

Joker was a brief flame man in 2007 when he released ‘Digidesign’ but since then he has been on the side looking for tracks that are commercial and have a room sound.

In November he released 'The Vision', his first album which bombed and since then he has been doing DJ work to try and rebuild his noise. I can't find any evidence he was really going to be playing in Israel so as the previous poster said this is probably a set up for publicity.

Music fan


A troll or a fool?

19.12.2011 08:48

"I can't find any evidence he was really going to be playing in Israel so as the previous poster said this is probably a set up for publicity."

Even with the date of the show above you couldn't find this?

 http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?320711

or this:

 http://refrainplayingisrael.posterous.com/joker-to-refrain-playing-israel-update

or this?

 http://www.elasticartists.net/w/

Probably both


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This is very suspicious

19.12.2011 08:56

A quick check of the major Tel-Aviv venues shows that he was never booked to play enough of them at the dates mentioned furthermore it seems the Facebook page that campaigned for him not to go was created by a Mark Collier of JDP Ltd which is a subsidiary of Joker Dubstep Productions, the management company of this singer.

The whole thing reeks of a planned event designed to drum up some cheap publicity which is a pretty sick way to use the plight of the Palestinian people.

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Who ?

19.12.2011 11:29

A nobody with a career that needed a publicity boost. God only knows why Indy thought it deserved house room.

Dave Lee Travis


Who ?

19.12.2011 12:07


A nobody with a career that needed a publicity boost. God only knows why Indy thought it deserved house room.

Dave Lee Travis


israel, the Jokers onto you

19.12.2011 16:09

So now we refer to people as a '' nobody''. There are people who will be turned onto the israel problem through having an interest in this guy and the music he creates, and i say good. I dont know him and haven't even heard his sound, but so what. The point is that people will think about the politic, the cause and effect, and maybe start to question what that shitty little state is up to. Good call Joker, and maybe you will do a couple of gigs for the benefit of the Palestinians in the style of other great musicians. (in fact i'm gonna give him a listen, now that he's taken a stance)

the hairy cornflake


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Using the conflict

19.12.2011 16:24

I think that what people are objecting to is that this was a musician whose career was on the slide so a manipulated campaign was organised to drum up some publicity for him which I think is a shitty way to use the Palestinian people besides have you read the comments from the sort of people who are his fans, just how political do you think any of them are, I doubt they could find Israel on a map if they had help.

Real music fan


A bit optimistic I think

19.12.2011 16:56

You really think that this will encourage fans of Joker Dubstep to take a closer interest in Middle East political conflict and the plight of the Palestinian people ?

I admire your optimism but judging by the comments on his Facebook page we are talking about individuals barely able to construct a simple sentence never mind become engaged with a complex geo-political problem. I hope you are right but I think their priorities are elsewhere.

Really ?


Jokerface is not radio Ga-Ga, time will tell

20.12.2011 15:18

Well, I checked out his music and have to say not really my trip, but that's not the point. As the saying goes 'all roads eventually lead to Anarchy', that place where we realise that we don't need power trippers forcing people to comply or else. Joker is no different, let him have his say - acknowledge his step towards recognising a cruel power structure, as you know there are many. Personally I'm not a music 'fan' as it's one of the systems tools for - well lets say it's an opiate of..... To me real muscians don't over- indulge, but use the music to raise awareness and bring hope, and those who feel it, know it. Anyway take care everyone and all the best for the new year.

the hairy cornflake


of course

20.12.2011 16:57

Of course, in the meantime, Apple computer is completing a deal to buy Israeli hi-tech company Anobit, and will probably -- like Intel and Google -- open a research facility there. If so, that will be Apple's first research facility outside the US.

Netanyahu's tweeted a welcome message to Apple. Hell of a lot bigger news than some unknown joker deciding not to play somewhere they don't know him.

Impact of joker on Israel: pretty much nothing.

Impact of Apple on Israel: half a billion dollars to the plus side, and that's just a start.

take a look


Israeli technology

21.12.2011 08:06

And here is the problem for those of us wishing to avoid buying Israeli goods, it's simply impossible to do so unless one lives 'off grid' and has minimal interaction with the wider world.

Even the Saudi military which bends over backwards to avoid anything Israeli has had to give in with Satellite technology and targeting pods for its aircraft because the Israeli stuff is head and shoulders above anybody else. For the rest of us some practical examples of stuff where EVERY SINGLE ONE SOLD has Israeli technology in it.

Every mobile phone
Every PC or Apple computer
Every iPad
Every iPod
Every iPhone
Every Sat Nav
Every Black Berry
Every ATM machine
Every bank 'chip & pin' card

Greg


Untwist yer melon man

21.12.2011 14:14

@Greg and Take a Look, thankyou for your posts, another eye opener. I suppose now it's a case of '' by any means necessary'' as the israeli jewish state has it locked. I think understanding the mindset of the oppressor is key to solving the problem. Thoughts by a guy called Gilad Atzmon in his book ''the Wandering Who'' will quickly aquaint interested people with said mindset.
The topic isn't really about Joker, it's about something more sinister than a drum machine and flashing lights - as you've pointed out in your posts.

hairy cornflake


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you can't be serious

21.12.2011 16:34

"Thoughts by a guy called Gilad Atzmon in his book ''the Wandering Who'' will quickly aquaint interested people with said mindset."

If you mean the mindset of an anti-Semite, you're quite correct, it'll introduce you to Atzmon, who takes it as his mission in life to recast anti-Semitism as 'anti-Zionism'.

Well, that and sending around Holocaust denial essays.

Anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools, and Atzmonism is the anti-Zionism of fools.

look again


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therefore

21.12.2011 18:09

"And here is the problem for those of us wishing to avoid buying Israeli goods, it's simply impossible to do so unless one lives 'off grid' and has minimal interaction with the wider world. "

That's why ten years of BDS have achieved essentially nothing except activist frustration.

ergo


You win this time Joker, but Gotham City will never surrender.

22.12.2011 23:31

Oh what a superb outcome everybody.

Yes, that Joker dude certainly has put the heebeegeebee's up that nasty Zionist hun for sure.

Well done everybody for letting the hun know he's not wanted and well done to all the hun who have posted here and made utter cakes of yourselves.

Spiffing perofrmance all round.

Toodle-pip.

Sir Anthony Tipex-Thunderbugger.


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noticed

25.12.2011 15:05

noticed


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