Please support the petition to free Babar ahmad

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02.11.2011 09:21

Babar Ahmad was arrested in London on 5 August 2004 on charges that of providing material support to terrorism, providing illegal support to the Taliban, money laundering and conspiring to kill people. An affidavit filed with the US court details that Ahmad used aliases to operate Azzam.com, a website supporting Chechen and Taliban fighters. It further describes that items recovered from a house used by Ahmad included a British Airways Executive Club card in his name and next to it a floppy disk containing a password-protected document containing a detailed description of the US Fifth Fleet, its ships, the date and time of its expected passage through the Straits of Hormuz, and that it was vulnerable to attack by "RPG" (rocket-propelled grenade). Ahmad was later indicted by a grand jury of US citizens in October 2004. Another man Syed Talah Ahsan, was indicted in 2006 of involvement with Ahmad and with the battlegroup information in the document, and thereafter a US former navy seaman, Abu Jihad was indicted and convicted of passing this information to them.

Always worth a bit of research

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Comments will be hidden

02.11.2011 11:41

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Please explain

02.11.2011 12:25

Would a Mod explain the above comment and also say why the previous comment was hidden. Which of the guidelines did it break ?

Peter

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02.11.2011 13:33

Babar Ahmad was arrested in London on 5 August 2004 on charges that of providing material support to terrorism, providing illegal support to the Taliban, money laundering and conspiring to kill people. An affidavit filed with the US court details that Ahmad used aliases to operate Azzam.com, a website supporting Chechen and Taliban fighters. It further describes that items recovered from a house used by Ahmad included a British Airways Executive Club card in his name and next to it a floppy disk containing a password-protected document containing a detailed description of the US Fifth Fleet, its ships, the date and time of its expected passage through the Straits of Hormuz, and that it was vulnerable to attack by "RPG" (rocket-propelled grenade). Ahmad was later indicted by a grand jury of US citizens in October 2004. Another man Syed Talah Ahsan, was indicted in 2006 of involvement with Ahmad and with the battlegroup information in the document, and thereafter a US former navy seaman, Abu Jihad was indicted and convicted of passing this information to them.

Always worth a bit of research

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02.11.2011 13:43

Babar Ahmad was arrested in London on 5 August 2004 on charges that of providing material support to terrorism, providing illegal support to the Taliban, money laundering and conspiring to kill people. An affidavit filed with the US court details that Ahmad used aliases to operate Azzam.com, a website supporting Chechen and Taliban fighters. It further describes that items recovered from a house used by Ahmad included a British Airways Executive Club card in his name and next to it a floppy disk containing a password-protected document containing a detailed description of the US Fifth Fleet, its ships, the date and time of its expected passage through the Straits of Hormuz, and that it was vulnerable to attack by "RPG" (rocket-propelled grenade). Ahmad was later indicted by a grand jury of US citizens in October 2004. Another man Syed Talah Ahsan, was indicted in 2006 of involvement with Ahmad and with the battlegroup information in the document, and thereafter a US former navy seaman, Abu Jihad was indicted and convicted of passing this information to them.

Always worth a bit of research

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02.11.2011 14:08

Babar Ahmad was arrested in London on 5 August 2004 on charges that of providing material support to terrorism, providing illegal support to the Taliban, money laundering and conspiring to kill people. An affidavit filed with the US court details that Ahmad used aliases to operate Azzam.com, a website supporting Chechen and Taliban fighters. It further describes that items recovered from a house used by Ahmad included a British Airways Executive Club card in his name and next to it a floppy disk containing a password-protected document containing a detailed description of the US Fifth Fleet, its ships, the date and time of its expected passage through the Straits of Hormuz, and that it was vulnerable to attack by "RPG" (rocket-propelled grenade). Ahmad was later indicted by a grand jury of US citizens in October 2004. Another man Syed Talah Ahsan, was indicted in 2006 of involvement with Ahmad and with the battlegroup information in the document, and thereafter a US former navy seaman, Abu Jihad was indicted and convicted of passing this information to them.

Always worth a bit of research

Always worth a bit of research

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so white people can join mercenary groups overseas...

02.11.2011 17:32

.. but non-white people can't?

At least they believe in what they are fighting for, unlike people who just do it for money.

Why should we support a particular side in a conflict just because our government tells us to?

What if there was some armed anarchist uprising against some fascist regime overseas and people from the UK went over to help them, or provided support from here? And at the same time the UK government was supporting the regime by selling them bombs etc?

Why can't we have a bit more freedom here? - we aren't automatons that have to march in lockstep with our masters.

anon

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Supporting the Taliban, huh?

02.11.2011 22:03

Zero sympathy from me, anyone supporting those misogynist, oppressive, fascist scumbags deserves what he gets.

secularist

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erm....

03.11.2011 11:06

This is maybe what he is being CHARGED with. It does not mean any of it is true. Still, whats that against the importance of having an opinion and putting it on indymedia.

Rob

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if you read the research

03.11.2011 11:59

you would have found that he had been "convicted of passing this information to them." Still, whats that against the importance of supporting the human rights of murdering scum.

secularist

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Yes but...

03.11.2011 12:23

Of course this loony is anti-American so for some here that's all they need to support him.

Bill

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03.11.2011 13:08

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missing the point

04.11.2011 16:59

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I'm not saying I like the Taliban (I don't, I'm atheist and I don't like their sexism, homophobia, etc.)

The point is that there are double standards here.

White public-school educated mercenaries can go and fight on behalf of fascist dictators in Africa and no-one here bats an eyelid. UK arms manufacturers can sell bombs to all sorts of scum round the world with no comebacks.

But one guy who allegedly raises a small amount of money for a cause he believes in and tries to help them out a bit gets the book thrown at him.

THAT is why people are fucked off, because they hate the USA's bullying, NOT because they like scumbags like the Taliban.

anon