Cambridgeshire police have arrested a 32 year old former employee who had a dispute over pay. Nothing to do with any Anarchist group or "Fire Cell"

The above post PROVES (after much debate about this) that the c*** who keeps trolling "Fire Cells" bullshit on Indymedia is an agent-provocateur

with Charged here.

i didnt know someone was charged with it who apparently worked there. can you show proof of this, is it widely available and are you certain no 'groups' had anything to do with it?
if its true, then i do accept it ws perhaps a tad 'jumpin the gun'. i was merely happy that apparently anarchists in cambridge were fighting back against the car industry. please accept my apology, no trolling intended. i dont have ready access to news and when i saw the story i thought id republish it here to show anarchists that act that they are not alone. if the former employee used anarchist style communique, well then yes, he/she's a dick for doing that to bring heat to comrades in cambs. although, its still a good thing the place got burned down, in my opinion..........

If anyone's taken in by this idiot posting agent-provocateur shit about Conspiracy Trolls of Fire, they'd do well to remember the case of Green Anarchist magazine, which was infiltrated by Nazis like its editor Richard Hunt, a long-term collaborator of former NF activist and New Right "leader" Troy Southgate, and by ex-Nazi turned Searchlight spy Tim Hepple. The other original editors of Green Anarchist were basically pacifists, while (surprise surprise) Hunt and Hepple tried to push the magazine / group towards ever more violent confrontations....

Under his mis-direction, Green Anarchist published articles supporting the British Army in Iraq, and the magazine later went on to support mass-murderer Timothy McVeigh, poison gas attacks by the Japanese cult Aum Shinrykyo, and the serial killer Ted Kaczynski, who is predictably also praised in Datacide magazine's agent-provocateur spin-off shit-rag 325 magazine. Timothy McVeigh had a huge infuence on Nazi nailbomber David Copeland - both were directly inspired by a Nazi genocide book called The Turner Diaries, written by BNP conference delegate William Pierce (using the pen-name "Andrew Macdonald"). Indymedia is being used to repeat the same trick.

of dismissing the original poster as an agent provocateur or a troll. It seems like whenever someone posts news of spiky actions which aren't backed up with some kind of 'evidence' (what do you expect? If people cause £80k worth of damage, do you really expect them to stick around & take pics or something?!)

Maybe it was anarchos, maybe it wasn't, but I don't see why there needs to be an automatic dismissal of these kinds of reports as the work of the state. Anarchists don't always agree on tactics or targets.

Also some employee being nicked doesn't prove anything. Ever been wrongfully arrested before?

Agent-provocateurs don't necessarily work for the State. Sometimes they work for the State, sometimes they work for the media, sometimes they work for employers organisations, sometimes they work for organised crime or right-wing groups, sometimes they work for combinations of these, sometimes they do it because (as was the case with Tim Hepple) they just enjoy violence. Even more dangerous are people who aren't deliberate agent-provocateurs but who just do REALLY STUPID THINGS.... because they're stupid

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/09/485095.html

The comment says that a 32 year old has been arrested, but doesn't give any link. It doesn't come up on google, and the arrest is not covered by the paper that originally reported it.

And, by the by, even if someone had been arrested, that wouldn't necessarily mean that they had actually done anything at all. Would it?

Maybe its a lie posted by a cop.

Far too many 'anarchists' out there have absolutely no doubt that anyone disagreeing with them, coming at things from a different angle, misunderstanding an issue or event, or generally not sticking to the Insurrectionary Anarchist Party Line is a state agent, agent provocateur, troll, nazi or any other slur they can come up with.

thanks to debbie locke and disinfo dave, its nice to know there are still comrades out there, especially when probable police spies or right-wing trolls attack every 'spikey' post, as you say, debbie locke.

it kind of makes me laugh, because when the shit really hits the fan, like when theres dozens more insurrectionary actions in the UK PLC, these trolls and spies will be worried...very worried.

but anyhoo, thanks again debbie locke and disinfo dave, your solidarity is welcomed.
and @Kali, although you are correct, spies and trolls and AP's come in all shapes and sizes, i assure you i am a committed social revolutionary and like i said, maybe i jumped the gun a bit on this one and apologised. please accept my apology as meaning i am a genuine IM user, not a retarded police offcier or right wing troll. ta.

Of course action and protest is sometimes going to be spiky, it doesn't stop the fucktards who did this from being a right bunch of knob-jockeys.
operating in cells, and carrying out 'actions' like these do not garner the support of workers, ffs it's like you are living out some kind of fantasy from the film terminator where you are the resistance. our strength is in numbers, not minority IRA style cells, and change comes through taking control of our workplaces and communities. and defending these gains - with violence if need be, not by running about at night dressed like Ninjas and setting fire to shit.

grow the fuck up.

"it doesn't stop the fucktards who did this from being a right bunch of knob-jockeys. "

It was done by some pissed off bloke who had a dispute with the owners about his pay and got sacked. He's been arrested, charged and has admitted the offence.

This is just a few stupid kids who don't know anything about what anarchism really is and they just want to feel like they are important and that they have something to say, but they have nothing to say to the workers when they do this. They should listen to us older anarchists because we know what we are talking about when we talk about anarchism because Britain has one of the strongest and most well organised decent anarchist movements in the world. These dumb kids are ruining it for us all at a time when the workers are really looking for something new and we don't want them to go towards the right-wing by getting scared away from lunatics who want insurrection rather than a workplace assembly. They need anarchism. These kids should try to organise at work (if they do) by getting everyone together at work and organising a wild-cat strike or demanding better pay! They should be active in their local area with the community and put themselves at their service, like helping old grannies across the road and helping with their washing, even getting a youth group going is better than setting bloody cars on fire!

So stop it kids ! You are NOT in the terminator films fighting skynet! Technology is nothing to fear - Learn about real anarchism and everything it stands for, you can find out loads about it on Libcom.org.

To call these actions "spiky" is just pathetic - if you look at this moron's latest posting 325 magazine are now attributing attacks to "anarchists" which even they admit no-one knows who's responsible for. When a magazine's reduced to telling outright lies it's pretty fucking obvious who's the real anarchists and who's the agent provocateurs, but the real tragedy here is that Indymedia seem gullible enough to actually print these lies -

 https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/10/487636.html

"It was done by some pissed off bloke who had a dispute with the owners about his pay and got sacked. He's been arrested, charged and has admitted the offence."

Where did you get this info from?

Its still not showing up on any search.

It's not about any insurrectionary party line (sic) it's about having any sophisticated historical awareness and applying any degree of political common-sense - 325 is run by a bunch of Austrian rich kids whose political ideas are drawn from their video and record collections and not from any experience of real poverty or form of real political experience.

Praxis / Datacide take note - being able to write purple prose about John Carpenter films does not mean you have a rounded understanding of popular culture, and vanity publishing a few dozen unpopular techno 12"s does not mean you understand the people you closet vanguardists hoped to lead into your ((quote)) "proletarian counter-culture"

From their own website...

**These idiots caused £80,000 of damage to a family-run firm which, as I understand it, makes a large portion of its money from providing mobility solutions for the disabled** (see below)

alex cassidy
18/10/2011 at 11:11 am
This isn’t anarchy you moronic shits, you have soft targeted a v. popular local firm, you are weak cowardly and badly misinformed and you bring a world of Shit on your own heads. Keep looking over your shoulders.

Michael Mouse
18/10/2011 at 12:48 pm
Please explain to me how fire bombing a local family run business is ‘breaking the system’. You really are a useless bunch of cunts.

terry tibbs
18/10/2011 at 1:14 pm
agreee with alex cassidy – get a job, get a life clean yourseves you dirsty fucking soap dodging cunts

David Mudkips
18/10/2011 at 4:19 pm
“insurrectionary action cell” – what, you and your twelve year old mates? How can attacking a local, family run business possibly be considered “hit[ting] the bastard system” except in the deranged mind of a psychopath? I take it you couldn’t afford the bus fare out to Marshalls!

John
18/10/2011 at 5:31 pm
I came here following the Cambridge Evening News article expecting to find some deeper reasoning behind the attack in this statement beyond ‘step 1 – burn stuff, step 2 – ???, step 3 – freedom and equality for all’.

I’ve been expecting to see direct resistance to the sorry state of things for some time and am disappointed by the arrogance of this little statement and dehumanisation of the public who are.. your enemies? the people you want to save? it’s not even clear..

Undoubtedly this act was powerfully liberating at a personal level to step over the lines and do such a thing but I would love some more introspection from those involved and a bit of intellectual weight behind your actions (but then again I’m not overly familiar with the anarchist movement, do you excuse yourselves from having to explain such things?)

SPIKE
18/10/2011 at 7:48 pm
WANKERS THAT WAS MY FRIENDS FAMILY BUSINESS BUILT BY A GOOD MAN WHO’S SON TOOK OVER WHEN HE DIED… COME AND MEET UP WITH US>>>LETS HAVE A CHAT…. I CAN SHOW YOU A WAY TO MAKE YOUR FUCKIN’ BLOOD PUMP.. SPOILT MIDDLE CLASS STUDENT CUNTS

Informant
18/10/2011 at 8:07 pm
Attacking GP motors wasn’t a strike at the system, it was pure mindless vandalism. Your obvious lack of brain cells highlights that people such as you deserve the prison term you will inevitably get. Your numbers have been infiltrated and you will pay…. watch your back, your friends are not really your friends.

Manley (@LordManley)
19/10/2011 at 9:43 am
Erm . . . this is just silly.

mumsybear
19/10/2011 at 2:05 pm
So what reason do the perps have for this crime?

Taken
19/10/2011 at 3:55 pm
I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don’t have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that’ll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Alex Millar
19/10/2011 at 4:18 pm
Why do you ‘doff your caps to the spirit of this action’? These idiots caused £80,000 of damage to a family-run firm which, as I understand it, makes a large portion of its money from providing mobility solutions for the disabled. Why not do a Tescos or Starbucks or something instead? Ahhh Yeah… expensive CCTV and alarm systems plus they’re not generally located in quiet little back streets where the rent is nice and cheap for a struggling small business. Yeah, you really stuck it to the man there guys, I hope you’re fucking proud of yourselves.

James Allan
19/10/2011 at 6:02 pm
You sound like sexually frustrated little vandals blowing shit up, any cause will do so long as it justifies your pent up hormonal anger and agressive behaviour. Anarchy isnt the fight against society its the struggle to make a better one. The people you`re attacking are in the same boat as you, and are being oppressed by the same powers as you. Identify your enemy before you start a fight. Knobs!!

James Allan
19/10/2011 at 6:17 pm
seems to me that you little mugs have taken your definition of anarchy straight from a sex pistols track.Perhaps you should grow up and think about more productive ways to change the system.There`s a big difference between political activists and acts of straight forward vandalism.In the words of a mr Steve Ignorant `fight war,not wars` PLEBS!!

acab
20/10/2011 at 8:27 pm
IAF / Cell of Joy claim arson attack against prison vehicle in Nottingham (UK)

12 October 2011

A visit to Nottingham Prison last night [12/10] culminated in a fire being started underneath a prison vehicle. It had just gone nine when we arrived and after tagging some nearby walls with the messages of “Fire to the Prisons” and “Solidarity to those kidnapped”, we quickly and quietly stepped to the vehicles, lit our fires and took off quickly into the night.

This attack was not a request, or a demand that the prisons improve, or that the judicial system becomes more fair. We attacked because our comrades have been kidnapped, and we will show solidarity in anyway we can. Solidarity to all those captured during and after the riots, to the anti-fascists imprisoned because of the usual web of lies spun by the cops and their pals, and to all those who feel the urge to resist whenever the moment seems ripe. We did this in order to show solidarity with the actions of the IRF Bristol’s action at the Law courts a few nights ago, and to our Cambridge brothers and sisters acting with such fierce love and rage.

The prisons are where they hold us when they can not control us, they are the threat they hold over us, but what they can not understand is that the greater threat to us is for us not to act. For us to be stifled by the conditions and the conditioning of this society. When we act in away that unleashes our rage, when we act in away that brings us joy then we are able to unleash a glorious FUCK YOU! A FUCK YOU with blood and spittle, a FUCK YOU directed plainly at those who benefit most from this diseased social system.

 http://325.nostate.net/?p=3263

Alex van Terheyden (@vanterheyden)
21/10/2011 at 5:18 pm
Cambridge Anarchists? More like Cambridge Vandals without a clue.

Guy Smith
22/10/2011 at 9:28 pm
Cambridge Anarchists – i do not know how you can support this action – I’ve even worked with you in the past – but I consider this ill-conceived action totally disgusting – I refuse to support anyone that would condone or approve of cowardly actions such as this against good people – whoever carried out this action – you FAIL

cambridgeanarchist
24/10/2011 at 9:29 pm
Guy, reread. “Here at Cambridge Anarchists we doff our collective caps to the spirit of this action…..while we may not agree on the target.” Do you need further help with the semantics?

cambridgeanarchist
25/10/2011 at 11:31 pm
…….and you’ve never “worked” with us.

If by "spikey" you mean psychotically deluded, then maybe I'd agree with you

cars pollute and kill first and foremost. their destruction is a positive step. people make money out of machines that polute the world and out of peoples disabilities. fuck the capitalists. would they do the same for disabled people for free, like an anarchist society would? no, dint think so.

And you dedicate your life to helping disabled people for free?! ..... no, I though not