Daily Telegraph hack Richard Alleyne LIED to smear OLSX

Reprographics | 26.10.2011 09:11 | Public sector cuts | Social Struggles | Workers' Movements

Police deny being the source of press allegations that 90% of Occupy London Stock Exchange tents are empty overnight. It's a measure of the occupation's true impact that mainstream media hacks like Richard Alleyne are reduced to lying about police intelligence to try and smear protests against corporate greed. Contact Richard Alleyne at

richard.alleyne@telegraph.co.uk .....

"The camp forced St Paul's to close for the first time since the Blitz and is costing local businesses thousands of pounds a day. But most of the protesters are heading home to sleep in their own beds at night. Infra red images taken by a police helicopter during the early hours show that only around 20 of the 200 tents on the encampment actually have people staying in them." - Richard Alleyne, Daily Telegraph, 24 Oct 2011

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8846402/Only-one-in-10-St-Pauls-protesters-stay-overnight.html

"Activists camping outside St Paul's Cathedral have denied press reports that only 10% of their tents are occupied at night, and police said they were not the source of the figure... Reports quoting the 10% occupancy rate appeared in the Times, Telegraph, Sun, and Daily Mail on Tuesday, apparently based on evidence gathered by a police helicopter equipped with thermal imaging cameras. However, City of London police told the Guardian that they could not confirm nor deny the reports, saying only that neither details of the thermal imaging cameras nor the occupancy estimates had come from them." - Sam Jones & Peter Walker, Guardian.co.uk, 25 Oct 2011

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/25/occupy-london-tents-night

After lying about the Metropolitan Police, The Telegraph have since published their OWN thermal image, which was taken from the ground and definitely NOT from a police helicopter, and which, with a very narrow field of view, instead of showing the entire protest in fact shows no more than 10 tents, ie - showing 5% of the overall protest. The photograph does not therefore prove anything about the occupancy of the other 190 plus tents and there is no proof the image was even taken at this protest -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/8847958/Pictures-of-the-day-25-October-2011.html?image=18

Predictably Richard Alleyne tries to use the "Blitz factor" to alienate his readers from the OLSX protests, despite the fact that protestors are trying to DEFEND Britain from attacks on services which were instituted by Britons immediately after and in response to the suffering of WW2. Far from being the stereotypes the hard-right media try to characterise them as, in fact The Guardian says one protestor is a 48 year-old former Tory councillor from Wokingham.

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Christian Flashmob St Pauls tonight *****

26.10.2011 14:43

There's a Christian flashmob / choir planned for St Paul's this afternoon to protest against the closure of the Cathedral.... tactically, if it materialises, the choir should be welcomed with open arms - "Jesus was the first socialist", "kicking the money lenders out of the temple" etc. Please notify OLSX people immediately.

http://flashevensong.weebly.com/

Also, although it's a different strand of Christianity - "The Vatican aligned itself with anti-capitalism protesters around the world on Monday when it condemned "the idolatry of the market" and called for a radical shake-up of the global financial system" -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8846595/Vatican-sides-with-anti-capitalist-protesters-and-attacks-global-financial-system.html

The hypocrisy of the Vatican is stunning, but nonetheless, where tossers like the Daily Mail have an audience of over 2 million, Vatican pronouncements have an audience of 1.2 BILLION - this is potentially the biggest PR coup the Occupy movement's received so far

Anonymous

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26.10.2011 09:21

As well as showing just 5% of OSLX tents, there's no proof of where OR WHEN the Daily Telegraph's photo was taken. As with any other defamatory statements, people like Richard Alleyne need to be held accountable for libeling peaceful protestors - people like him need to be reminded that we won't forget, but, if you contact him, BE POLITE

Repro

The Blitz

26.10.2011 09:29

It'd be interesting to know who closed more British hospitals - the Luftwaffe, or the Tories?!

Now there's a thought

Anti-Fascist

speaking of traitors!!

26.10.2011 09:43

wasn't it the daily mail who supported oswald mosley and the british union of fascists?

salvador dali

re hospitals

26.10.2011 10:04

Anti-fascist - Re hospitals - Labours PFI schemes are just as rotten and follow on from the axe taken to the NHS Ken Clarke when he was Thatcher's health secretary in 1988 ( in association with British American Tobacco.)
Labour have channeled billions into the corporate purse out of the NHS and crippled hospitals at the same time ( see any issue of Private Eye - and a few NHS/PFI specials for details...)

Tories?Labour? Same shitheads really working for the corporate buck.

Smash PWC

Reply to Smash PWC

26.10.2011 10:29

Agreed

Repro

0.9%

26.10.2011 12:08

The tactics are clearly the same ones being used to evict the democrcay camp.

You'll be getting a lot of this.

The Daily Telegraph are obviously the tory rag of choice and they have simply selected two journalists who are hostile to the aims and motivations of the camp, so have gone down there looking for opportunites to collect information to use to spoil it. Don't fall for the 'creme of objective journalism speil'. It works that way on TV and film but, unfortunately, not in real life.

When democracy camp setup in Parliament Square, the same story was put out by its detractors, the tents were unnoccupied and the protesters were going home at night to sleep in warm beds.

Same tactics this time around.

What you should expect next, is for the cities drunks and drug users to turn up looking for free food and handouts. This will be because somebody has gone out into London and told them the St Pauls camp is giving out free food.

You'll also get people turning up looking for a fight in the middle of the night usually during police shift changeovers, endless complaints about your behaviour which are spurious, people turning up to cause trouble by claiming they support the right to protest BUT...

And of course local councillors, privy councillors and various heritage wardens all doing the same. We support your right to protest BUT...

For every movement, there is a counter movement.

The right to protest in the UK DOES NOT exist. This is because there is no 'right to protest', there never has been.

Protest is the exclusive wilful reserve of the people. To call it a right is to infer that somebody gave permission for it, or that it was won, or that the state will accept it by some working condition.

Protest is what it is, nothing more, nothing less. The method of the people to hold its democratic body to account by way of the majority voice. Our democracy does not work once every five years. It does not work simply because a vote is cast, or an election held. That is the least of it. Democracy works hour by hour, minute by minute, second by second. In a democracy everything is DIY and when everybody is involved...it works.

If you claim that you are a beleiver in democracy but this or that must take prominance...then you are either an anti-democrat, an authoritarian speaking in code, or a public servant unqualified to speak on a subject that does not have anything to do with you. You may not cite petty law as more important than our inclination to protest. To do that, is to place petty law about what is critically important to our functioning democracy.

Do that, and you are a damn fraud.

We are the 99%. Majority rule.

99.1%

Daily Telegraph hack Richard Alleyne LIED

26.10.2011 12:27

In other news.....

Pope Catholic

Children like sweets

Bears shit in the woods

Communist parties always split

Glass is see through

Amazed at your naivety

99%

26.10.2011 13:05

"In other news.....

Pope Catholic

Children like sweets

Bears shit in the woods

Communist parties always split

Glass is see through"

And cynicism see's everything but itself.

Parliament...its own museum.

Naivete?

26.10.2011 13:48

Since when is calling people to account for their actions "naive"?

Jean Paul Sartre

"And cynicism see's everything but itself."

26.10.2011 14:12

"Naivety fails to understand its presence even when it is indicated by others"

Grown Up

obvious question

26.10.2011 14:21

who stole that rescue blanket from my tent roof?

i do not count

Urgent request to Indy mods

26.10.2011 14:48

Please contact OLSX people with the addition about St Paul's ASAFP please - thanks

Anon

Grow Up

26.10.2011 15:25

Why waste your fucking breath accusing this post of being "naive"? The purpose of this campaign is to reach out to people who still have some faith in capitalism and in the mainstream media - people who are, in that sense, naive (although no more naive, in different ways, than many seasoned activists). You might have noticed for instance that thousands of people who supported recent protests are in fact children, therefore by definition they're inexperienced - get off your high horse and either contribute something positive or shut up

Well Done, you prove my point perfectly

26.10.2011 15:43

"Why waste your fucking breath accusing this post of being "naive"? The purpose of this campaign is to reach out to people who still have some faith in capitalism.

The fact that you still do not understand the problem is indicative of your naivety as well as theirs.

There is no realistic alternative to Capitalism because it is the best of the possible systems available in which a large group of individuals with differing skills live and co-exist in relative harmony.

Consider for example the near immediate rise in living standards for the majority of Eastern European states after the abandonment of Control Economies, there are man y other examples however there is one overwhelming benefit that outweighs all others.

Trade and Commerce prevent wars, you don't invade people you are doing business with (look up the founding reasons for the EU)

Amazed at your naivety

Reply to Amazed

26.10.2011 16:16

Thanks very much for revealing your true hand, the real reason you've been bombarding this thread with nit-picking comments is because you're actively pro-capitalist, and this time, instead of splitting hairs about minute details of precise wording, you've finally broken cover and given us the benefit of your real beliefs - thanks for that

As for your claim that capitalism is "the best of the possible systems available in which a large group of individuals with differing skills live and co-exist in relative harmony" I wouldn't say that the global financial crisis, hundreds of thousands of Indian farmers killing themselves because they're being fucked-over by multinationals, the vast global disparity between rich and poor, the butchery of public services in Britain and Greece, and minor issues like our taxes funding the deaths of half a million innocent Iraqis are examples of people "co-existing in relative harmony", you jackass

And before you mention it, I used to work for SG Warburg & Westpac

Cheers

Trade and Commerce prevent war?

26.10.2011 16:21

"Trade and Commerce prevent war"? Like Opium War, or the first Gulf War, or the 2nd Gulf War? I take it you've never heard of Halliburton?

Oh joy :)

Richard Alleyne

26.10.2011 16:41

I'm guessing the berk who's trolling here might just be Richard Alleyne?!

Thanks for your input Rich ;)

Beeeehind you!!!!

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War

26.10.2011 16:45

Gulf War 1 and 2 were the result of a lack of trade. Saddam needed to invade Kuwait to control their oil reserves, if they had been trading he would not have done. Gulf 2 was because Saddam had not learnt his lesson and was thus prevented from trading, the others you site were local skirmishes not wars.

Try doing some reading and research not repeating what somebody shouted on a demo and you heard

Big long sigh at some people's stupidty

Nice try

26.10.2011 16:55

"Gulf War 1 and 2 were the result of a lack of trade"? OK, so it's true, you HAVE never heard of Halliburton. "Saddam needed to invade Kuwait to control their oil reserves"? Yeah, Saddam was a capitalist too, and after that America invaded Iraq to obtain control of their oil reserves.... for firms like Halliburton

In addition to all the other examples you conveniently omitted to respond to, got anything smart to say about the murder of Ken Saro-Wiwa?

Father Christmas

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Richard

26.10.2011 16:57

Listen Richard, you've been exposed for being a lying ..... , so why not get the fuck out while you still have an outside chance of retaining some shreds of dignity

You

TOM KELLY and DAMIEN GAYLE of The Daily Mail

26.10.2011 17:46

Far-right opinion maligns protestors as smelly hippies, then tries to denounce them on grounds that they go home to take a bath. The Daily Mail's well onto the bandwagon, but there's no proof of when any of their photos were taken, and all of the Mail's photos feature small groups of tents. Would they denounce merchant bankers for failing to spend 24 hours a day at work? Bottom line is these criticisms are irrelevant to the issues people are concerned about, and they know it. After G20 the press claimed protestors had attacked police who were trying to "help" Ian Tomlinson - I don't recall any of these morons apologising after the video evidence emerged proving they'd lied all along. These people would do well to remember what happened to the News of the World.

Holy Smoke

We need to dig the dirt on establishment journalists

26.10.2011 19:38

They are always muckraking and poking into ordinary people's private lives to suit the rich and powerful people who pull their strings.

I say we put the spotlight on them and compile extensive details on their background and personal lives.

These people are absolute scum and deserve a taste of their own medicine.

anon

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You are simply wrong

27.10.2011 06:53

"America invaded Iraq to obtain control of their oil reserves.... for firms like Halliburton "

Laughable. If the US had wanted Iraq's oil it would have done a deal with Saddam like it had been doing for the past 30 years, like it does today for Saudi Arabia. Halliburton was WORSE OFF because of the war in Iraq, it lost contracts.

The US invaded Iraq in Gulf War 1 because the Iraqis threatened Saudi Arabia and they invaded in Gulf War 2 because Saddam had become rogue and was threatening people all over the region including most of the Gulf states. If Saddam had done as he had been doing for the previous 30 years ie keeping his oppression to the Iraqi people, spending his oil money on Ferraris and booze he would be alive today and still in power however like that nutcase in Iran he got dreams of grander, thought he could extend his power beyond his borders and got the standard US bitch slapping, the same that will happen to Amadinajed within the next few years.

I had not realised there were still people claiming "it's all about the oil". Thanks for that, it was like a trip down memory lane.

Sigh gets even bigger

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You are simply wrong

27.10.2011 08:37

Sigh gets even bigger

Thermal cameras don't see sleeping bags.......

27.10.2011 16:31

I guess it's obvious with hindsight, thermal imaging cameras don't "see" people in sleeping bags, because sleeping bags are designed to STOP heat leaking out

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/26/occupy-london-tents-rubbish-science?INTCMP=SRCH

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