and so are the Libyan people by the looks

Here is the guy who was responsible for killing people on our own soil
Lockerbie and funding+supplying the IRA
And least we don't forget the poor WPA who was shot and killed outside the Libyan embassy

The world is a better place with this bastard dead

I think the author is on the wrong site and should fuck off back to whatever pro-gadaffi site he came from.

Man takes power in a military coup d'etat. Man stays in power without election for the next 40 odd years. Man prepares his sons to take over as country's leader. Article on Indymedia is furious because people think Libya is well rid of this man. Cognitive dissonance.

"Here is the guy who was responsible for killing people on our own soil
Lockerbie and funding+supplying the IRA
And least we don't forget the poor WPA who was shot and killed outside the Libyan embassy

The world is a better place with this bastard dead

I think the author is on the wrong site and should fuck off back to whatever pro-gadaffi site he came from."



What we have seen in Libya is simply the installation of one regime over another.

Either one may have committed the atrocity you mention because either one had plenty to gain.

That said, its highly unlikely Ghaddafi ordered a standing diplomat in the Libyan embassy to just fire off pot shots at a standing protest of anti-Ghaddafi militants which led to the death of Yvonne Fletcher. That would be nice to beleive that but its also absurd too. Much more likely that the anti-Ghaddafi militants put their supporters up front on the day and then had a gunman get into the embassy lobby or first floor, fire off a shot or two in order to allow for the UK and the US to point the finger at Ghaddafi. What better outcome could the anti-Ghaddafi militants want?

These are the people that have now taken control in Libya and they are the reason our failing media have run the headlines they have run. Its called exploiting the situation for material benefit. Which our failing media have spent their entire lives perfecting. We can now draw a line under these deaths, because the people that did it are now in power in Libya.

So work that one out Mr Protester for justice, or EDL idiot on a string.

I know a young girl who was killed in an IRA bombing at the Baltic Exchange by the name of Danielle Carter. She was 15 years old when she died.

I find it utterly repugnant that you would use the victims to justify your sordid comments. The images that the MSM in this country have been publishing in this country, along with the rancid and vile comments of the Sun newspaper leave my blood frozen with disgust.

You, the MSM journalists and the government have no right, whatsoever, to try to claim that what we have seen today is somehow justice for the people that he supposedly killed. Danielle Carter was killed by the Provisional Irish Republican Army. To have those people walking free, while claiming that killing Ghaddafi constitutes justice is exactly the same as you spitting in the face of the victims.

Foul, disgusting, obnoxious waste of my air. The world is not better with that bastard dead, because you aren't laying on a slab next to him.

"DAVID Cameron was so desperate for the head of Colonel Gaddafi that he ordered military commanders to track down the fleeing tyrant. But top brass stalled on the PM's request for a joint SAS and RAF mission because they feared it could be illegal."

The SUN. (make labour look stupid)

"I think today is a day to remember all of Colonel Gaddafi's victims, from those who died in connection with the Pan Am flight over Lockerbie, to Yvonne Fletcher in a London street, and obviously all the victims of IRA terrorism who died through their use of Libyan Semtex,"

The TELEGRAPH. (make the victims look stupid)



David Cameron, you are a CUNT.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhVyZEm83EU&feature=related&skipcontrinter=1

Imperialism organised, led and continues to direct the reactionary so called rebels who are being portrayed by the pro NATO western mainstream media as ‘revolutionaries’ and ‘freedom fighters’. Gaddafi died fighting the forces of imperialism, the Libyan people will continue to fight on as they are all too well aware of the future that awaits them if they succumb to colonial subjugation.
For people interested in understanding more about the situation in Libya
See  http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/
and in particular the following articles featured on this site
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/2011/09/01/the-top-ten-myths-in-the-war-against-libya-maximilian-c-forte/
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/videos/
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/2011/10/16/the-humanitarian-war-julien-teil-must-see/
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/2011/09/12/mustafa-abdul-jalil-and-mahmoud-jibril-have-been-paving-the-way-for-nato%E2%80%99s-conquest-since-2007/
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/2011/07/06/amnesty-international-question-human-rights-abuse-claims/
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/2011/09/06/natos-war-on-libya-is-an-attack-on-african-developmentdan-glazebrook/
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/2011/07/11/un-human-rights-council-report-on-libya-4-january-2011/
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/2011/09/04/amnesty-and-racist-rebel-atrocities-in-libya/

Great to see all the Libyan people celebrating the end of the tyrant.

After all of gadaffis rants and threats of retribution - it all amounted to nothing!
The guy was deluded saying that we were going to pay a heavy price. When he finally worked out he was losing he only then tried to compromise because he had to.
If he had won, there would have been many more mass graves like the ones they found.

Pretty sickening hearing these apologists saying the victims of the Ira are not relevent. Or of lockiebie. And where is the evidence that the anti-g protestors infiltrated the embassy and fired on the crowd!? You've just made that up -total fiction and disgusting.

Gadaffi supported the killing of uk citizens by terrorism. Disugusting that people seem to think this I's OK.

The only people that support gaddafi are the loyalists and they are running like rats into holes

....because anyone who rises up against a regime you wish to defend, must surely be mindless and have no sense of self determination at all. Nothing more than criminals surely, under the aegis of some nasty western imperialists. Remind me again how your crude oversimplification differs in any way from that trotted out by the Gaddafi regime itself (or indeed any state threatened with internal revolt). How galling it must be for you that the Libyan people who lived and died under the Gaddafi regime for the past 40 years did not see it as the Socialist paradise you would like to romanticse it as being.

Revolutions are often ugly - look at the period of the Terror in late eighteenth century France. If Gadaffi was so popular why is there clearly so much pent up hatred for him and his regime? No doubt you will be saying next that the scenes of celebration have been misrepresented and distorted by the western media and in fact the country is in deep mourning for their beloved leader. Of course, much like the propoganda myth that the fall of Tripoli was some sort of staged event and Gaddafi was on the verge of crushing these 'rebels' - it will undoubtedly be utter bollocks,

Face facts, the people of Libya hated Gadaffi and his oppressive regime - let them enjoy their celebrations.

Do not accept the frenzied pro NATO/imperialist media lies and propaganda about Libya -
See also
An important investigation into the murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher, who was shot whilst on duty during a protest outside the Libyan Embassy in 1984. The two-part documentary suggests that she was killed, not by someone inside the Embassy as originally claimed, but by a gunman in an adjacent building used by the British security services.
Dispatches – Channel 4
 http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/?s=yvonne+fletcher

The people of Libya hated 'him' so much that they gathered in million strong demonstrations to support the Green revolution.

They hated him so much that they fought with tooth and nail for 8 plus months against the most powerful and well armed nations on earth - to a standstill it would seem as well.

They hated him so much that they fight for that which he stood for even today. Try finding a video clip from any of the 'embedded' news organizations that lasts for more than 10 seconds where there is no sounds of gunfire in the background.

So hated was he that 'his' Green book is the fastest selling book in Africa, one of the most downloaded things in the world today.

NATO is pulling out they say - expect no rest for the rats who claim power. They will destroy each other and in turn be destroyed by the Libyan people and their African allies.

Believe the front pages of mouthpieces of the corrupted power systems that control the imperial nations - fought by increasing number of their own citizens.

Believe the lackies of the international banking criminals who say that Libya will be free as her resources are drained.

Believe the cowards who dropped bombs on the heads of those who said NO to the lures of liberal democracies, preferring their own systems of distribution and representation.

This is the true face of that which claims triumph in the new colonial era:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxNeW9UhhO0&feature=player_embedded

Ha ha says Hillary.

What say you? Got any fight left?

that he never bothered with such trivia as standing for election. Good heavens, why bother, when he was so popular? And with his sons ready to take over from him when the Great Man decided to retire.

As to the fighting - well, there were a lot of people who were his cronies and who did well out of his rule. Libya was oil rich, and Gaddafi rewarded his friends. They weren't going to give that up lightly.

Thanks for researching and posting those images Jack.

Absolutely tells the story of the kind of world the trolls secretly want us to live in.

Its this kind of competent, adult and accurate insight that does for the trolls and leaves the rest of us with the energy and inspiration we need to put them in their place.

Keep it up fella.

Solidarity, peace and justice to you.

Good god, the reality of America laid bare before our very eyes.

Here's another image of Clinton with her very own cadre of terrorists.

that he has to bury 1200 of them in a mass grave.

 http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/blog/mass-graves-evidence-libya.html

Thank you for your kind words, they mean much.

Perhaps we will never meet, but we fight side by side.

 https://s3.amazonaws.com/PHR_Reports/Libya-WitnesstoWarCrimes-Aug2011.pdf

maybe when you justify the figures of

'deaths of those 100 000 Libyans ... and find reason why their deaths do not justify the deaths of 1000 000's of French UK and USA civilians in response?'

So we fight a war against dictators? And for every death in that country, we're supposed to kill one of our own?

This is a man who achieved power by coup d'etat and who ruled by decree for 40 odd years and prepared his sons to take over from him. Justify that.

The guilt just slips away don't it?

We never did nufink wrong never.

Quadaffi attacked his own people and that's like bad, so we attacked his people better and that's like good innit

Relativistic moral codes is like disgustin and that

"This is a man who achieved power by coup d'etat and who ruled by decree for 40 odd years and prepared his sons to take over from him. Justify that."

The link below is to a film containing large quantity of evidence of real war crimes, real human rights abuses, real rape, real torture, real child abuse, real murder and real summary executions carried out by the government of Sri Lanka against the Tamil population. While this was going on, the perpetrators carried out a large public relations operation modelled on the populism of the war on terror pioneered by the British and US governments. Many organisations, most of them privately hired, have picked this up to argue with the internet community that all of this was acceptable behaviour. This link is full to brimming with evidence of real crimes against humanity involving real criminals. Here, anonymous PR are perpetually engaged in denying stark, cold, hard reality.

 http://www.channel4.com/programmes/sri-lankas-killing-fields/4od/

The link below is to another film outlining the claimed human rights abuses committed by the Ghaddafi regime in which no evidence is offered accepting third hand accounts by people who's politics are unknown or undeclared. While this is going on, perpetrators have carried out a large scale public relations operation modelled on the populism of the war on terror pioneered by the British and US governments. Many organisations, most of them privately hired, have picked this up to argue with the internet community that all of this was unacceptable behaviour. This link is bereft of any evidence of real crimes against humanity involving real criminals. Here, anonymous PR are perpetually engaged in denying stark, cold, hard reality.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISLz8Fv0eik&feature=player_embedded

The first tragedy is completely ignored by Britain. The second so-called tragedy is one in which the British have taken a lead role.

The first tragedy is completely ignored by the UN. The second so-called tragedy is one in which the UN have taken a lead role.

Its about time that Indymedia contributors started to recognise that a lot of 'trolling' here is not undertaken by alcoholics, mentally retarded males who live in squalor or those who hold EDL type views.

It is undertaken by professional public relations companies who are paid to do this on behalf of the very people who are committiing serious human rights abuses and trying to excuse war crimes.

When you see deranged arguments supporting that which no sane person would ever support, you have a profiteering PR consultant tapping away on a keyboard in their office.

Thats the way this works, thats the way it has been working for the past ten years.

'However, the hypocrisy of those that state these are reason enough to forgo international law'

United Nations Resolution 1970 (2011)?

'With ALL the facts available, still Quadaffi comes out looking no worse than cameronblair and perhaps from an historical perspective, a little better.'

Wasn't Gaddafi indicted by the ICC?

Cameron and Blair did not seize power in an armed coup d'etat. They did not attempt to rule for moe than 40 years without elections. They did not prepare their children to take over. They did not massacre 1200 of their own people. Apart from that, may be they were equivalent ...

If they don't agree with me, they're alcoholics, metally retarded, or employed by PR companies.

You define the word 'arrogance', sir.

Dear Indymedia UK moderators,

Having noticed the truncated title and an incorrect attachment (see the first one), I've posted a corrected version on this newswire:


 https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/10/487323.html

UK's left-wing press jubilant over the assassination of deposed Libyan President


For some reason, one of the Indymedia UK moderators hid the corrected version and kept this original one.

Could you please restore the corrected version and hide this post instead?

Many thanks.

Cem

there are several important implications of this assassination:
- the international insurrection has found once it takes the issue of regime change away from the regimes and makes it a matter of the people on the street, any and every attempt of regime change by other regimes is a proxy attack against the entire insurrection, even when the targets are not part thereof
- the nato tyrants have gambled away their last options to plead for mercy when it comes to them - they will be treated like they treated others
- the libyan renegades have expressed everything that needs to be said about the euro kangaroo court - they prefer their own ritual of human sacrifice
- the commercial media are blaming their blood lust either on the target of the assassination or on the libyan national character, whatever seems more opportune - they only reach those for whom contradictions do not matter anyways
- the power balancing ideologues and disgruntled activists, who have fallen to the deception that one less head of state always was an improvement whatever the circumstances, now can see that human rights violations do not disappear with this or that bogeyman, and ending them requires system change

there also are some implications of the regime statements around this assassination:
- the term "collective action" is an obvious plagiarism intended to cover up the permanent lamenting about unfair burden-sharing within nato hierarchies - and as such also an unintended affirmation of the reliable impact of the insurrection at home (ows)
- the general estimation of world events painted there is so beside the point that it bears the question whether it is actually being believed by the speaker - and the answer that this aspect is entirely irrelevant for a political ideology in the yoke of the scorched earth tactics of escalating drone warfare
- the term "path of defeat" is a deliberately ambiguous euphemism for the notable absence of any positive goals within the agenda of the nato regime - not only does it omit the assumed purpose of a defeat, but also the ominous observation that it is just being defeated by its own monstrous success

Gaddafi Death: A Bullet to the Head is the Culmination of NATO’s Criminal War

by Finian Cunningham, 22 October 2011


The shocking images of Muammar Gaddafi being hauled while dazed, confused and blood-soaked on to the back of a pick-up truck by gun-toting opposition fighters cannot disguise the awful reality – the Libyan leader was lynched on the street, executed in a squalid form of summary “justice”.

His murder by NATO-backed militants is in many ways a fitting end to a seven-month campaign of criminal war and atrocities by the US, Britain, France, Canada and other western powers.

After several weeks of military siege of Gaddafi’s hometown of Sirte, during which civilians were bombarded by NATO warplanes, the Libyan leader was dragged from a drainage pipe before being fatally shot. The involvement of NATO in this climactic act of savagery cannot be denied.

Apparently, a convoy carrying Gaddafi attempting to flee from Sirte was attacked by NATO jets – various reports say British and French jets – rendering him to the hands of the NATO-backed fighters on the ground.

Mobile phone images showed 69-year-old Gaddafi being manhandled, barely able to stay on his feet. His vest was a bloody mess. It is not clear whether his injuries were incurred during the earlier NATO air attack on his convoy or at the hands of his captors. But moments later, similar images show his lifeless body with a gunshot to the left side of the head. His captors also claimed that he had been shot in the upper body with a 9mm handgun. Just before his killing, one of Gaddafi’s captors was seen brandishing a handgun at his head.

The NATO-backed Transitional National Council is now contradicting the version of events told by its fighters, claiming – somewhat incredibly – that the former Libyan leader was shot in crossfire between soldiers loyal to Gaddafi and the TNC’s fighters.

Washington has subsequently called for an “open and transparent” inquiry into how Gaddafi was killed. Such a call can be seen as a cynical attempt to obfuscate the appalling fact that NATO is an accessory to a war crime – the cold-blooded murder of a defenceless prisoner.

Certainly, the initial reaction of Western leaders and media could not contain their glee at the news of Gaddafi’s brutal slaying.

The Financial Times declared that his “timely death” opened up a new beginning for the North African country; the Daily Telegraph crowed how Gaddafi was hauled from “a sewer” and given “a bullet to the head”. The New York Times intoned that Gaddafi’s killing “vindicated” Obama’s war strategy in Libya, while the Christian Science Monitor asserted that “Gaddafi death gives NATO its 'mission accomplished' moment in Libya” and went on to ponder if it provided “a model for future US interventions”.
Obama, Cameron, Sarkosy and Merkel were quick to glorify the execution.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said: “The path is now finally clear for a fresh political start, in peace. Germany is relieved and very happy about this,” she added.

US President Barack Obama called the death a “momentous day in the history of Libya”.

Britain’s David Cameron also could not restrain his satisfaction, declaring that he was “proud of the role played by Britain in Libya’s liberation”. Cameron appeared to excuse the roadside execution: “I think today is a day to remember all of Colonel Gaddafi's victims... We should also remember the many, many Libyans who died at the hands of this brutal dictator and his regime.”

Few people would deny that Muammar Gaddafi’s 42-year rule was without allegations of human rights violations. Indeed, that did not stop Western leaders cosying up to Gaddafi at times when it suited them. Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair flew to Tripoli to have several secret meetings with Gaddafi and on one occasion lobbied on behalf of investment bank JP Morgan.

Whatever crimes Gaddafi is alleged to have committed does not mitigate the fact that he was summarily executed by NATO-backed forces and that this appalling extrajudicial killing was greeted by Western leaders with approval and applause.

His murder marks the lawlessness and barbarity with which Western governments are now overtly operating in pursuit of their foreign policy objectives.

The squalid demise of Gaddafi is reminiscent of Iraq’s Saddam Hussein. He too was at one time feted by Western leaders when, like Gaddafi, it suited their self-serving interests. But when their mercurial interests dictated, he too was crushed and discarded. Like Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein was captured and dragged from a hole in the ground. But at least in the case of Saddam, the Western powers felt obliged to go through a sham court prosecution before he was lynched. No longer, it seems, are Western governments restrained by sham niceties in their method of discarding opponents. A bullet to the head on the side of the road will do.

"If they don't agree with me, they're alcoholics, metally retarded, or employed by PR companies."

Go back, visit the links I provide and when you have taken it all in, come back and try again.

I deal in facts, not the feeble minded culture of populist face-spitting.

A television programme and a youtube video? Get real.

It's not even as though you had anything to be arrogant about.

Both sides of this "debate" are fucking idiots, whether it's Gadaffi or NATO they are defending.

Gadaffi got exactly what he deserved. Cameron (like Blair) deserves exactly the same.

I'll certainly celebrate their deaths if i live to see them. Let the Libyans celebrate the death of their oppressor, as long as they're not conned into thinking they don't also need to liberate themselves from the imperialists in his wake.

Death to ALL rulers, "elected" or otherwise!

"A television programme and a youtube video? Get real."

The scenes of misery contained in this work is very real. As are the people killed, maimed, raped and abused.

If you cannot see that, then there is nothing you can say.

Exercise some grace and humility and stop commenting. Get on with your life and try to be less disruptive to those who care.

Unlike those found in the mass graves in Libya, or the protestors gunned down by Gaddafi's security forces in Benghazi.

In Britain, there are great outcries against the Government when protestors are kettled. Gaddafi shhots his protestors - and still you admire him. Well, fascists cling together.

"Unlike those found in the mass graves in Libya, or the protestors gunned down by Gaddafi's security forces in Benghazi."

No evidence of mass graves, thats just something you like to say.

But firing on protesters is a very serious charge to make. Made significantly more serious by the fact that the 'protesters' then started using their own heavy weaponry to depose the Libyan government. This included the use of heavy anti-aircraft guns, mortars and artillery. The very thing they were complaining about.

These weapons were used in heavily built up areas.

A large number of civilians died as a result.

I agree with anarchist above - we should celebrate any removal of powerful or rich people - whether by death or just by being stripped of their wealth and power. And that goes for our own leaders and well as other leaders.

Of course we know the US obviously had a big hand in the process, and it may bolster their own power and wealth, but that doesn't make your enemy's enemy your friend. It seems to be only certain sections of the authoritarian far-left who go for this style of thinking.

Face it, authoritarian communism is dead, anarchism is the way forwards.