This is an excellent, well-argued and well-informed debate, which illustrates exactly why Indymedia is being used by State / intelligence trolls like the guy who posts using names like "Insurrectionary Anarchist", desperately trying to whip-up acts of false-flag terrorism to smear and discredit radical politics.

15:10 into the recording, Martin says "the army... was involved in fomenting both right AND LEFT-WING terrorism... in order to seize power and prevent various social reforms from being carried through... this in fact is STANDARD NATO MODUS OPERANDI... this is all historically documented fact, parliamentary enquiries in Belgium, Switzerland and Italy have all uncovered this"

Indymedia really need to wise-up on this, quickly

When you look at the roots the connections do add up

Please site your sources and provide detailed information. I believe most of this information is false.

Oh and F U C K Y O U

I met Breivick in Waterloo at a demonstration against Islamification of Europe.

He was there with an Austrian group that had travelled over from the mainland.

Back then he was talking about the British people having to stand up to the influence of the left. He seemed far more concerned with the influence of the left in Europe than he did with muslims. In fact this is all he talked about.

I think its natural to want to associate Breivick with the edl because the edl are pretty much concerned with the same thing. This whole thing about wanting to protect britain from Islamo fascists is a cover. What the edl really want is the left off the streets so britain can continue with its 'terror-war' without being interfered with by leftists demonstrating against the war.

The edl are statist loyalists and are doing their bit for the warmongers. The edl see themselves as a force that is voluntarily passifying the left.