Too far: A site to identify and incriminate rioters

ktf | 09.08.2011 20:25 | August Riots

Going too far: Someone has created a web site to incriminate any people photographed in the London riots.

An independent body has turned up to try and identify the rioters in the London area. This is unacceptable and will lead to arrests of innocent people and false positive identification. Please campaign to rackspace.net (the owner of the network this site is being served from) to have this site shut down.

http://londonrioters.co.uk

They are accepting donations anonymously and there is no information as to who they are or what their motivations are or what information they will hold on people. It's blatantly immoral and violates people's data protection rights under law.

ktf

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Update - who this is

09.08.2011 20:49

This is run by 40 degrees north:

http://twitter.com/#!/40DegreesNorth

http://www.40degreesnorth.co.uk/

http://webwhois.nic.uk/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=40degreesnorth.co.uk&WHOIS+Submit.x=0&WHOIS+Submit.y=0 - address information.

Please campaign against this. It's illegal and a dangerous attach on privacy.

ktf

I think you miss the point

09.08.2011 21:38

This could be vigilante justice waiting to happen. What happens if someone puts your address against a photo? You'd be pretty fucked off when they publish the list of names out there and someone burns your house.

ktf

natural justice

09.08.2011 21:44

> This could be vigilante justice waiting to happen. What happens if someone puts your address against a photo? You'd be pretty fucked off when they publish the list of names out there and someone burns your house.

Doubt that will happen - i'm white

Something has got to be done about these people. They don't seem to care about other people's lives (torching shops below houses, pulling people out of cars and beating them) so we should we care about them? No-one is going to defend these scum - they are on their own

Peer punishment is part of nature. If an young wolf starts misbehaviouring then the elders in the pack will give it a nip as punishment. This is how our evolution has developed. Take that away and of course the youngsters will misbehave.

tools of the trade

Arse and brain swapped

09.08.2011 22:59

It's not about money. That's a very naive interpretation of the word "poor". There are many social issues which define poverty.

I am judged as poor because I wear very cheap clothes (army surplus) and have a 5 year old Nokia. That in itself is wrong as all I desire is functional items.

ktf

The poor as consumers

09.08.2011 23:00

And why do you think it is that "the poor" feel the need to have the latest smartphones, expensive clothes, expensive footwear etc. It's because the consumer lifestyle is pushed down their throats through a constant bombardment of marketing and advertising.

Education

10.08.2011 00:38

>So what makes these youths so different from us considering we see the same marketing and advertising as them? Parents? >Genetics?

Education.

Interesting development.

10.08.2011 01:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFaefsJzB9M

Download it whilst it lasts. I expect a copyright infringement claim from the BBC will be incoming.

anon

Blame it on the Other

10.08.2011 01:08

The whole thing kicked off because one guy was shot for guilt by association.

So the solution is ... um, to shop anyone that you reckon (without even the standards of proof that the police and courts will use in these tense times) - anyone you reckon was involved, and offer them up to vigilante justice?

Clap, clap.

You're keeping society safe for us all.
Muppet.

bangs headley

"... the workers"

10.08.2011 06:23

It's not "the workers" who have been looting and burning. The workers have had their shops trashed by feral children.

Lefty

So post details of people you don't like!

10.08.2011 08:56

You could start with the BNP membership list. I'm sure they won't mind being falsely identified as some of the rioters! The more disinformation, the better to protect the real rioters.

anon

an old photo from the G20 protest is on this...

10.08.2011 10:55

This website is completely illegitimate - it reminds me of redwatch.

Chaskaniawi

Sorry....

10.08.2011 12:39

Is this website any different a tactic from Fitwatch? Do you honestly think that destroying a family business or someones house, or indiscriminate looting is political or revolutionary? No sympathy for any of the looters and or rioters, feral youngsters steaming trainers and tv sets is not gonna change anything for the better.

Workingclassguy

Legally speaking

10.08.2011 17:14

There's no violation of data protection. Anyone is free to take pictures on the streets [indeed, there has been much complaint that the police and security people have been harassing photographers for doing just this]. Equally, people can, quite legally, post the pictures which they taken in public place to the internet.

The pictures you're referring to are taken legally, and uploaded legally. The question is whether they can be relied on as evidence in court. As we know, CCTV can be so used, and most of these are pictures from CCTV.

leagle

Trust not distrust.

13.08.2011 12:30

One second they're calling for parents to be police informers, like stazi scum, the next second they want the youth to trust their friends & family. There is a major contradiction that they will live to regret!

ps. CCTV has failed, facial ID has failed, police control room has failed, CPS has failed, SOCA gang surveillance has failed.