pretty bad target, buses are public transport used by the working class and a good way of reducing global climate change effects.

this is not good anarchism

...?

Ask people on the street what is anarchy. Will they provide the true definition/ what do you understand by that? A thousand different views on anarchism can be produced. Technically this was anarchism but ethically it wasn't. Anyway, destroy the state, remove the cops and army and what you've got left? Everything burned to the stake, rats eating dead bodies, continuous civil war and unrest, terror..
I feel better to have police control and organized world than an anarchist community consisting of few thousand people who know what it is and a thousand communities made of addicts, fascists, terrorists and thieves surrounding it.

details? evidence? anything?
pictures in news. interviews with residents in news. stop being lazy and having to be spoon fed. its on the internet and you should easily find it

agree with other commenter - anarchists cant force everyone to become an anarchist

Not good anarchism
bah you lame wankers you want every one to conform to ure version on anarchy!

BAH i say!
this is sooooo preverlant in the climate change "movment"

Bus SMUSH Working CLASS blerking blass Climate change blimate blange

who gives a shit!

who gives a shit!
old skool


knob head. i'll take wild stab in dark that you've been in prison a lot and you are poor?
and that you have a massive chip on your shoulder about it and how it is 'everyone else fault'.

who gives a shit!

You can't expect to fit a deep and instinctive expression of rage of kids that get fucked over by the state and its henchmen every day neatly into a political ideology, be it anarchism or any other. This is clearly not the outcome of a pre-thought strategy, and doesn't follow any book on 'how to bring down the state using careful and strategic methods'. Neither was this a wreckless and unthinking act of violence. It was a response to the brutal and unforgiveable murder of a guy by a cop, as befits the abuse of power taken by the cops every day. The principle targets were the cops, their vehicles, and a massive shopping centre that is an obvious symbol of capitalism. The validity of what happened last night is in powerful expression of the rage against these targets, resulting from the frustration and desperation felt by communities and individuals that are targeted and discriminated against by the cops, authorities, and the state every day, and not just when they choose to put themselves at risk by going on a demo or on an action or departing briefly from their otherwise comfortable middle class existences.

So their dissent may be instinctive rather than pre-meditated, and untamed rather than managed and confined to moralistic limitations of 'right and wrong', but we should think to the un-manageability of this eruption of violence as a strength and not as something that we can dismiss cos 'we know better'. No-one is denying that it isn't shit for the people who's houses got burnt, and that should not be dismissed as mere collateral damage, and of course what happened should be critiqued, but to overshadow the value of this expression of rage by focussing solely on the people who unfortunately got caught up in it against their will is just taking on a role of moralistic superiority that is badly missing the point. We can't always try to manage and confine people's rage against their daily oppression into the confines of moralistic parameters set by some ideologue. . This isn't about ideology or a certain prescribed politik, it's about FUKKING RIIIOOOOOOT

This gay guy says it better than I could:

 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/sorab-shroff/the-rule-of-the-mob-in-to_b_920369.html

As I write, I can still smell the smoke and the helicopters buzzing atop. I live in Tottenham and have for fourteen years now. As I returned home on Saturday night, our bus was abuzz with worries about whether our partners and friends - whom we were returning to - were safe. We could see a police cordon and behind that, familiar buildings surrounded by flames with young men, faces covered, leading a stand-off.

Tottenham is one of the most deprived boroughs in the country. I live streets away from where eight-year-old Victoria Climbié died because of her abusive guardians. A few years ago, Ikea opened up at the edge of Tottenham, with a deep discount on the first day. It became a scene of a stabbing over sofas. A few years ago, my partner and I were beaten up, yards from my home by several thirteen year old boys and girls.

No doubt, once more, some commentators will come out blaming "deprivation and poverty" for these riots. I reject this view completely. I grew up in India, where there is real, abject poverty - families without homes, food, shoes. Anger about a fatal police shooting does not necessitate burning buses and looting shops. This view is also unfair to the many, many families in Tottenham and elsewhere, who live on a tiny income and never once think about going out and ruining our public streets. I just received a phone call from an elderly Jamaican lady, who misdialled her daughter's number and connected to me. All she cared about speaking to her daughter, making sure she was safe. She doesn't want to burn cars and shops to make a point.

The actions of this small, but significant group tarnishes the entire area and it shouldn't. My area of Tottenham is one of the most diverse in Europe, from Holocaust refugees to Eastern Europeans.

Every day, when I sit at my bus stop, overlooking the spot in Tottenham where those kids kicked and punched my partner to the ground, I know whose side I am on. Not on the side of those who think looting widescreen TV's from shops is a way to express a view, but on the side of the ordinary resident - the Turkish hairdresser, the takeaway owner, all of us who choose not to allow the rule of the mob to triumph over the rule of law.

Noone has the Right to "Ride" any Animal!
pre terror regime indian

i assume that is some sick reference to the gay indian's post above?
Fuck off back to stormfront you sicko


feel sorry for the innocent residents who have lost their homes

I agree with phoolan... this was not an organised action by Anarchists, who the Fascist govt, media, police and trolls would like to blame.

This eruption of anger and aggression was a symptom of a sick society and we can expect more. Those responsible may not be well educated but they know they have been screwed by the state and ignored by the 'middle classes' who don't want to venture out of their comfort zones to deal with these festering problems.

While I don't agree with what has happened, I do understand that it was inevitable.