Antifascist Prisoners In Need Of Support

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whats their crime?

29.06.2011 18:12

difficult to support if don't know what they did. Could be anything for all we know?

anon

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Re: emails to prisoners

29.06.2011 20:23

The cost is 25p per email and this is charged to the prisoner. Best send letters of support.....

*ucked Off!

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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

29.06.2011 21:07

The cost is 25p per email and this is charged to the prisoner

Let the mischief commencement!

little pixie

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Correction about Email-a-prisoner

29.06.2011 21:37

http://www.emailaprisoner.com does NOT cost the prisoner a penny....

See:

http://www.emailaprisoner.com/faq.cfm?country=uk

The sender pays, 30p per message. So there's no 'mischief' to be had 'little pixie' you dick.

These are six good blokes who did the right thing. The least we can do is give them some encouragement and practical support.

Northern SHARP

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booooooooooooooooooooooooo! hiss!

29.06.2011 22:28

might send some stationary

Patrick O'Donovan is a player

little pixie

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emails...

29.06.2011 22:36

well, it sounds like prison system makes profit from those emails so perhaps we should just stick to old good post office. slightly more expensive, but at least we not giving the money to the system that keeps our comrades inside!

Anarchist Solidarity

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O'Donovan

30.06.2011 01:21

O'Donavan is probably a fake name, it's more than likely he made it up on the spot as he's German and Benson & Hedges membership is illegal in Germany.

In The Know

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Support

30.06.2011 08:57

As the original post states, there are good reasons why it is unhelpful to have public discussion about this case at the moment, so please could people avoid straying into the realms of talking about "O'Donovan" or other aspects of the substance of case.

Mum

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Security

30.06.2011 11:32

Happy to abide by warnings not to get into details but the Standard has done a story on the convictions and there are rumours flying around about one of the original arrestees being a police spy. Hope someone will give us all the whole story in due course.

Damian

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No Damian

30.06.2011 12:07

They're is no rumours about any of them being police grasses, do you have an ulterior motive or are you just a dickhead?

Anarcho Jim

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story update

30.06.2011 17:28

Word on the street is that there were 11 not 6 anti-fascists who pre-planned an attack on two men who were going to a music event.

They were masked and tooled up waiting on the train platform to the enemy to appear.
Witnesses heard the command to "kill the nazis". One victim, Patrick O'Donovan was kicked and beaten to the ground by the defendents, the other run onto the tracks and was chased.

The crux of the case is that they conspired to commit the act if violence which is unacceptable in the UK and against the law. CCTV footage caught the criminal act even though they were masked up.

This appears to be the 2nd attack of Patrick O'Donovan. Rumour has it on the street, is that one member of the gang Jonathan Wood is a police informer and led to arrest of the gang.

We shall have to see how it plays out - send support

Anarchist

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fuck fascist trolls

30.06.2011 18:09

Can somebody remove that fascist troll comment above signed as "anarchist"? go back to shitefront you fucking moron.

Anarchist Solidarity

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Please sort this out ASAP

30.06.2011 19:09

Please remove the above comment by "Anarchist". The claims it makes about "the rumours on the street" are totally unsubstantiated and because they're utterly false. To be honest I strongly suspect this comment has been made by police rather than fascist trolls but it should be dealt with ASAP nonetheless.

Furthermore, is there any way this thread could be locked? Seems like it is going to be a magnet for fuckwits spreading misinformation.

Antifascist

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[NAME REMOVED]

30.06.2011 20:16

We were saddened to be informed today that [NAME REMOVED] does not wish to be included in any prisoner support lists of this sort. We can only respect his wishes and have amended the information on our website accordingly. If other prisoners feel the same way we will also remove them.

Leeds ABC

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clarification

30.06.2011 23:01

[NAME REMOVED] has informed me that he doesn't mind gifts but that letters and emails of support would not be welcome as he doesn't want the undue publicity that the case has brought upon him.

Trim of insomnia

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Crime

01.07.2011 20:41

If you can't do the time don't do the crime!!!!!

Al

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[NAME REMOVED] is a grass

02.07.2011 07:50

[NAME REMOVED] is a grass. His handlers could not offer him any protection because he was caught red handed on CCTV, and through his mobile.
[NAME REMOVED] is working with Special branch, and now he has done time SB know he will be very useful when he gets out.
Look at was happened around him in the past.

[NAME REMOVED] is a grass

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Fuck off troll

02.07.2011 08:46

[NAME REMOVED] is NOT a grass.

Leeds ABC

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Lock this thread

02.07.2011 09:51

Can someone please do the sensible thing and lock this thread. It is linked to from fascist sites and is clearly being used as a means to try to spread lies and misinformation (as with the above "such and such is a grass" post).

Moderators - Please get your act together. Do you really want Indymedia to become a tool for fascists to try to harass antifascists? Surely not. Please either delete troll comments and lock the thread or else bin the whole thing.

Solidarity

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go on then

02.07.2011 10:28

Can mr Usurper of grasses feel free to share whatever inside info they might have ? fucking doubt it you pathetic wanker , must try harder next time ,go to back of troll school for totally unoriginal posting....PATHETC.....regards knobhead from sunny Gipton

concerned of gipton

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cover up

02.07.2011 10:45

There WAS a grass as their was no way the Fuzz knew who to call on. Stop trying to cover up, most people in the know can tell you whats going on.

A Roof & Some Mini Mints

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Lock this thread

02.07.2011 11:15

This thread has degenerated into something of no benefit to any of the people it was set up to support, at least one of whom does not want their details to be made public anyway.

Please can the offensive and abusive comments be deleted and this thread locked, or else this post be deleted entirely. There is no reason to allow this thread to remain open.

prisoner support

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deleting thread

02.07.2011 13:09

So good antifascists can't have there names publicized becos of one coward? I talked to good freind of some of the prisoners and of corse they want support - just 1 of them don't.

ekes

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Clarification

02.07.2011 13:46

Despite various ill-founded rumours being circulated, the latest and most accurate information we have, based on a variety of sources including direct communicatiom with at least 3 of the prisoners, is that ALL of the prisoners wish to be recognised and supported, except for [NAME REMOVED]. Please give them your fullest support.

Leeds ABC

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clearing it up

02.07.2011 15:21

I think a lot of people are looking for information about the said police informer. There are a lot of rumours doing the rounds with conflicting information. Can we get a heads up on this rather than just a "there is no police informer" which is a bit lame.

Anonymous

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Lock this thread

02.07.2011 23:17

Allegations of police informants are - one would hope obviously - being perpetuated by trolls attempting to use this thread to abuse, undermine and harass the prisoners. If the comment entitled 'clearing it up' was made by a genuine human being rather than a troll, this is yet another clear testament to the need to LOCK THIS THREAD PLEASE, to avoid this stupid shitstorm progressing any further. There is absolutely NO reason to think that ANYONE involved in this case is a police informant: these allegations are BASELESS TROLLING ATTEMPTS. Moreover, an indymedia comments thread underneath a post breaking the crushingly sad news of six comrades being sent to prison is clearly NOT the appropriate forum to discuss whether or not people are police informants; especially when, again, *this offensive and horrible allegation has so obviously been perpetuated by malicious trolls in order to undermine the very solidarity this thread was so trustingly set up to induce.* It's common fucking knowledge that indymedia comments pages are littered with the most horrible kind of police and fascist trolls, as this thread is repeatedly demonstrating.

Please, please can the indymedia moderators stop this page continuing to be used to harass and undermine the prisoners it intended to support by at the very least LOCKING THIS THREAD, if not deleting it.

solidarity not trolling

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*correction

02.07.2011 23:30

Sorry, "Allegations of police informants are - one would hope obviously - being perpetuated by trolls attempting to use this thread to abuse, undermine and harass the prisoners." should read, "Allegations of police informants are - one would hope obviously - being INVENTED AND perpetuated by trolls attempting to use this thread to abuse, undermine and harass the prisoners."

And, "*this offensive and horrible allegation has so obviously been perpetuated by malicious trolls in order to undermine the very solidarity this thread was so trustingly set up to induce.*" should read: *this offensive and horrible allegation has so obviously been INVENTED AND perpetuated by malicious trolls in order to undermine the very solidarity this thread was so trustingly set up to induce.*

I.e., the origins of these allegations can be traced the short distance back to trolling comments made on this comments thread. They are based entirely in the defamatory fantasies of police/fash trolls responding to the above article. As such they have been hidden by indymedia moderators and should be treated with the contempt and anger that they and their trolling authors deserve.

solidarity not trolling

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Please calm down comrade

03.07.2011 08:48

Of course it is very easy for fascists to troll Indymedia threads and deleting them would only encourage that and starve our prisoners of solidarity. Please credit IM readers with more intelligence. The original post has now been copied to numerous sites and will soon fall off the end of the newswire. The prisoners themrelves are not in a position to see any stupid comments and I think would laugh them off anyway. Your own increasingly hysterical posts, while well-intentioned are unhelpful and simply making more work for IM mods. This thread is not a 'shitstorm'' it just has a few stupid comments. Try to get things into perspective and remain calm under fire comrade.

Solidarity with antifascist prisoners

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Trolling not Solidarity?

03.07.2011 09:08

Surely getting this thread taken down would be about the best result the pathetic fash trolls could hope for. So any comments calling for its removal ought to be viewed with suspicion, no?

Jake

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Removing comments

03.07.2011 09:40

Please ALL comments not directly related to supporting the prisoners, including ones about moderation. Thank you.

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Grass

21.09.2011 10:17

There was indeed a grass amongst all of this, in the form of Dan Crampton and his wife, see there public outings of lads now serving time, this pair are lying middle class grasses should not be trusted, and why did He run away at court ? We look forward to seeing you both soon.

LiarandGrass