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7/7 inquest conclusion - serious doubts remain re: 'official' version of events

Bullshit-Detector | 06.05.2011 11:26 | Analysis | Terror War

On the day Lady Justice Hallett's final recommendations at the end of the 7/7 inquest, in which she has said there is no case for a public inquiry, serious doubts remain about the official version of events we are expected to swallow.

The article "You Couldn't Make It Up!" by David Minahan is copied further down. It reveals serious questions relating to the offcial version of events in regard to the bombing of the Piccadilly Line train inear Russel Square, in particular that fact that no traces of HMTD, nor the hydrogen peroxide/piperine homemade explosive or indeed any other explosive was found, nor any trace of an initiator, for which the explanation that the strength of the explosion was such that all were obliterated is rendered seriously questionable since pieces of the identification documents, passport, addressed envelope etc were found. In addition to this, there was the revelation that Germaine Lindsay's body was apparently moved post explosion to an area at the end of the carriage where, according to Det. Insp. John Brunsden giving evidence on the morning of 17th December, most of the remains of the documentation were also found! In other words, the official version of events now identified in the conclusions to the 7/7 Inquest reveal that miraculously the contents were blown over the other passengers to settle in the area where the body was eventually placed!

On the day of Lady Justice Hallett's final recommendations, lets look at a short summary of MI5's role survelliencing the 4 alleged bombers on 7/7 which I attempted to send on a comment thread on the Guardian website this morning (Gaurdian ID: Syndacalist).

Re:  http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/may/06/7-7-inquest-verdict-live-coverage#start-of-comments
The following comment has been removed from the Guardian's comment thread in relation to the live update on Lady Justice Hallett's final recommendations at the end of the 7/7 inquest, even though it contains no incorrect information only fact (only revelations of MI5 incompetence, which one may speculate to have been mistaken or knowing) . It reveals compromised and partial moderation by the Guardian, who seemingly will not countenance any criticism of MI5 in the years leading up to 7/7.

The comment is copied in full here (below):

In an interview with BBC Newsnight's Richard Watson broadcast on 9th May 2007, Martin Gilbertson reveals that after viewing a propaganda video produced by people involved in activities organised within the Iqra bookshop – including Mohammed Sidique Khan (shortly after having returned from a trip to Pakistan) – a video which Gilbertson considered was inflammatory and concerning, he secretly produced copies of the film and alerted the police. Sometime after this in early 2004, West Yorkshire police raided the Iqra bookshop and seized the computers.

Why has there never been any mention of the police seizure of computers from the Iqra in early 2004? When did this raid take place? What prompted the raid? What information and data was garnered from these computers and how was it acted upon?

A joint West Yorkshire Police and MI5 operation named Operation Warlock was active in the Beeston area of Leeds from at least January 2001. As part of this undercover investigation, 40 individuals were surveillanced taking part in an outdoor expedition in the countryside organised by “two known Islamist sympathisers” (quoted from the ISC II Report) assumed to be Tafazal Mohammed and Martin 'Abdullah' McDaid. McDaid, the ex-Special Boat Service soldier cum 'radical' 'extremist' convert to Islam, was training people in the countryside. Tafazal Mohammed set up and ran the Iqra bookshop and learning centre. Some time after the camp, in April 2003, McDaid was seen briefly to get into a car that subsequent checks established was a car registered to a Mr Sidique Khan of 11 Gregory Street.

Contrary to the government’s claims, this hotbed of extremism had not gone unnoticed by MI5. In early 2002 a source within the security services was sufficiently concerned about McDaid to tip off a journalist on this newspaper about him. The source alleged that young Muslims were being taken on outdoor pursuits courses as part of training for possible terrorist attacks. Inquiries were made but nobody in the local community was willing to talk. Although the original article is not available online, it was referenced in a Times article of June 2006 which examined Gilbertson's story.

From Parliament's Intelligence & security Committee Report one may also note that between Operation Warlock (2001) and Operation Honeysuckle (2003) another operation began in late March 2003. This was Operation Crevice, which was to lead, a year later, to the arrests and prosecution of the 'fertiliser bomb plot', a prosecution in which Mohammed Junaid Babar played a central part by testifying against the accused (Mohammed Junaid Babar – who set up the terrorist training camp where Mohammed Sidique Khan learned how to manufacture explosives, became an FBI/CIA asset at some point between mid 2003 and March 2004, hence why he was quietly released after serving only four and a half years of a possible 70-year sentence in Nov 2010). At around the same time that Operation Crevice began (Spring 2003 according to the Metropolitan Police Service) Mohammed Junaid Babar was engaged in his second trip to the UK during which he apparently met with Mohammed Sidique Khan in Leeds. This was in April 2003 according to Hassan Butt. Who else did Mohammed Junaid Babar travel to Leeds to meet? Was Babar in the locality around the time of Operation Honeysuckle, the 14-15 April 2003?

With all the various individuals apparently under surveillance as far back as 7 years before July 2005, yet none of them apprehended in time to prevent the events of 7/7.

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see also:  http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/02/474657.html

Note also that pre-knowledge of the bombers by intelligence officials, was revealed by French President Nicolas Sarkozy - then French Interior Minister - who reporters that the then Home Secretary, Charles Clarke, had told him that some of the suspects had been subject to “partial arrest” in spring of 2004. It reveals that any survaillence operation of them failed specacularly, especially in view of the fact that MI5 head at the time - Eliza Manningham-Buller was reported to have said to Labour Party whips at a private Commons meeting on 06/07/2005 that there was "no imminent threat to London or the country" from a terrorist attack [Ref: The Guardian, 09/01/2007, Ian Cobain/David Hencke/Richard Norton-Taylor .. source: Notes From The Borderland, Issue-8, 2007].


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You Couldn't Make It Up!
by David Minahan
J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog
Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011
Ref:  http://77inquests.blogspot.com/2011/04/you-couldnt-make-it-up.html

Twenty five of the passengers who survived the explosion in the first carriage of the Piccadilly line train have given evidence, either in person or writing, to the 7/7 Inquest. This reveals that 12 of them actually entered the train at King's Cross, five of whom, Tracey Brade, Gillian Hicks, Garri Hollness, Paul Mitchell and Philip Patsalos recall getting on through double door 5 i.e. near where the explosion subsequently took place. Paul Glennerster was uncertain if in his case it was door 3 or door 5.

None of these witnesses had any recollection of seeing Germaine Lindsay!

Olawale Akarele, who entered through door 5 but further up the line at Turnpike Lane, indicated in his evidence on the morning of 1st December that he may have seen him. However his testimony was far from convincing and he admitted when questioned by Mr. Keith that he hadn't mentioned this in a statement made four weeks after the event, going on to say “Don't know for sure, just in the picture triggered”.[p69:7]

Later he revealed to Ms Gallagher that his recollection was of a big Afro Caribbean man wearing a yellow or green T-Shirt and no baseball cap![p90:2]

What no one disputes is the crowded conditions of the platform and the train.

Raymond Wright, the London Underground driver who travelled in the cab alongside Tom Nairn and assisted with the evacuation of many of the passengers, told how when he arrived at the platform the barrier was closed as a result of this overcrowding, and he was only allowed through because he was wearing his uniform.[p2:18] (It is perhaps worth reflecting that this would make it unlikely that Germaine Lindsay could have hurried on to the platform “at the last minute” after rushing across from the Thameslink Station. The scenario we were expected to accept at least until “the goal posts were changed” and he and his companions were “placed” by the Inquest, on the earlier 7.25am train from Luton).

It is surely surprising that somebody squeezing on to the train, encumbered by a large rucksack, (”very large, about waist height” according to Julia Roberts the forensic scientist [1st Feb pm 87:6]) didn't attract attention!

The forensic evidence given by Clifford Todd, the principal Forensic Investigator from the Forensics Explosives Laboratory, on the 1st February, is extremely interesting. The prognosis being that the explosions were ignited by a charge from a battery source or other electrical supply acting as a trigger for a small amount of the highly volatile substance HMTD, which in turn set off the the main “mix” of up to 10 kilograms of hydrogen peroxide/piperine!

Simply a matter of activating a snap connector or just attaching the leads to the battery in order to complete the circuit the court was told.[p45:25]

Quite how simple it would have been to carry out this task rummaging in a rucksack whilst standing up in a crowded train only seconds after it had pulled out of the station is perhaps open to conjecture!

Surely more significant, however, is the revelation made by Mr. Todd [p48:29] that at Russell Square no traces of HMTD, nor the hydrogen peroxide/piperine homemade explosive or indeed any other explosive was found! Nor indeed was there any trace of an initiator. [p55:12]

Apparently the strength of the explosion was such that all were obliterated. [p49:13]

This of course prompted the question as to how pieces of the identification documents, passport, addressed envelope etc. which Germaine Lindsay, and his three co-conspirators, had obligingly brought with them, had survived?

With commendable candour Mr Todd reflected “that whilst it is always possible that there could be some circumstances where they might survive in a fairly undamaged state, maybe at one scene, but the fact these were found in all 4 scenes, at least to some extent, in this state does quite strongly suggest to me that somehow or other they weren't actually on the person or in the rucksack”! [p59:14]

The implications of this seemed to send the inquest temporarily into some kind of legal “la la land”!

Lady Hallet put forward the suggestion that there might be an indication of “a concerted effort to ensure identification” (presumably she meant by the “bombers” rather than the authorities?). Whilst Mr Keith. although “not wishing to set any hares running” wondered if there might have been somebody else at the scene carrying this documentation” (a sort of suicidal equerry?).[p61:6]

Eventually it was agreed that the most plausible explanation was of the documentation probably being carried by the deceased in something like a plastic bag rather than in the actual rucksack and, therefore, being shielded somewhat from the effects of the explosion!

Plausible or not this quite overlooks the problem that Germaine Lindsay's body was apparently moved post explosion to an area at the end of the carriage where, according to Det. Insp. John Brunsden giving evidence on the morning of 17th December, most of the remains of the documentation were also found!

Perhaps, therefore, we should speculate whether Lindsay had some kind of pre-death premonition that his body was to be moved and left the plastic bag there before returning to the area where the explosion was to take place? Perhaps the bag was by his side all the time but miraculously the contents were blown over the other passengers to settle in the area where the body was eventually placed?

The phrase “You couldn't make it up” would seem to be appropriate!

*David Minahan was by occupation a claims investigator for an insurance company and later a leading firm of solicitors and has experience of "forensic" matters. David was also the National President of a major Trade Union (MSF now merged with the AEEU to form Amicus). David researched and wrote the London Bombings Dossier published on the J7 website and says he is convinced that there has been a massive cover up and campaign of disinformation about the events of 7/7.
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Finally, How did Mossad have advance knowledge of the bombs?”
The head of Mossad at the time - Meir Dagan - was reported to have said in an interview with the leading German tabloid newspaper 'Bild am Sonntag' on 10th July 2005 that he had informed Mr Netanyahu of the bombs ten minutes before they exploded, at 08.40am on 7/7/2005.

According to BBC Conspiracy Files programme on 7/7, it was because at the Grosvenor Hotel in Mayfair, where Benjamin Netanyahu had been staying, as Nethanyahu left the hotel on his way to the conference in Liverpool Street, a policeman was outside the front entrance and informed him that there had been an explosion near Liverpool street station. However, 'Stratfor Intelligence Agency' reported that the Met Police gave Benjamin Netanyahu warning the bombs were going to happen 10 minutes before they happened. Two weeks after, Mossad Chief Meir Dagan admitted he had informed Mr Netanyahu of the bombs ten minutes before they exploded at 08.40am on 7/7/2005. (source: Mossad chief Meir Dagan, in an interview with the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag on 10th July 2005).

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You don't have to make it up.

07.05.2011 10:52

Anyone with a whiff of knowledge about memory, cognition and the such will know that eyewitness testimony is at best flaky with even the most alert person let alone with people who aren't primed to be alert.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGQmdoK_ZfY

 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-317480.html

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