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Kettled in Brighton

Keith Parkins | 24.04.2011 23:14 | Anti-racism | Policing | Repression | Social Struggles | South Coast

One does not expect to get off a train and be held in a police kettle in Brighton. But that is what happened midday today.

inside the kettle
inside the kettle

Easter bunnies against Fascists
Easter bunnies against Fascists

EDL
EDL


I got off the midday train at from Victoria. Something was up. Police everywhere.

Before I knew it, I was held in a police kettle.

We can not let you leave, you are part of an assembly. No I am not, I said, I am walking down road, or at least I was until I was held against my will on the street.

The officer pointed to the pink slip in my hand which I had been handed moments before as justification for my being detained. The pink slip informed me off my legal rights. Thus having a pink slip informing me of my legal rights if held on the street is justification for holding me on the street! If this is political policing I do not know what is.

To be fair to the police, they were not heavy handed or aggressive, and they did have a problem of keeping apart two opposing demonstrations, and they did say once the other lot moved off, I could leave.

I was asked if I was press. Had I said yes, maybe I would have been allowed to leave, but I was honest and said no.

It was then announced everyone was being escorted to Victoria Gardens. Not having any wish to be escorted to Victoria Gardens, not even knowing where it was, I again tried to leave. This time I was stopped by a young inexperienced officer who did not appear to have two brain cells to rub together. He refused to let me leave on the grounds I should have left earlier!

I would have raised the matter with whoever was the senior officer in charge, but I spied a gap in the police lines, and so quickly exited.

About an hour later I encountered the opposing demo, a bunch of moronic chanting thugs.

I thought kettles were now illegal and could only be used in extreme circumstances. This clearly has not filtered down to the Boys in Blue in Brighton.

Keith Parkins

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Kettles not yet illegal

25.04.2011 08:49

The judgement was only applicable to those complainants on that date - it has no wider relevance ( and even then has been appealed)

Pot Calling


legality and use of kettles

25.04.2011 13:04

Point noted on the legality of kettles. But was there not also a recent report advising kettles only be used in the most exceptional of circumstances?

The police were correct to keep apart opposing forces. There would have been a riot otherwise.

The EDL scum needed a police escort to prevent attacks on people and property.

Those opposed to EDL did themselves a disservice and only served to give EDL an importance they neither deserve or merit.

EDL may be a bunch of moronic thugs, but they have the right to march and express their views.

Let them march. let everyone see them for what they are, a bunch of moronic thugs.

Keith


Ignorant of the law.

25.04.2011 14:48

Brighton and Hove Police tend to have limited knowledge of English Law, or any other law for that matter.

In a recent event, they assassinated a man in cold blood in Brighton one afternoon. No justification needed, they operated a shoot to kill policy.

You escaped lightly being kettled, Mick Fitzpatrick was murdered by Brighton's killer cops.

Brighton Eye


Now thats the kind of Easter Uprising thats good to see

25.04.2011 15:08

Hope not hate please help get lawyers on the case regarding mr alan Lake, EDLs chief fundraiser & organ grinder please, you have the money, I know because I sent some your way, thankx

Bugs Bunny


higher resolution pictures

25.04.2011 21:20

inside the Brighton kettle  http://twitpic.com/4pi68c

Easter bunnies against Fascists  http://twitpic.com/4pi6r6

English Defence League  http://twitpic.com/4pi7fk

Keith


Sue the f******rs!

26.04.2011 00:47

If you had just got off the train, were not part of the demonstration, and had told the fuzz this when they tried to detain you, they were detaining you unlawfully and you have grounds to sue them. Do it! The best way to stop the fuzz abusing their position is to use the law against them. The more pressure and the more expensive it gets, the bigger the chances of preventing them attacking people. Hold them accountable.

pinkolady


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Liar!

26.04.2011 10:45

Funny how, during a protest there is always one that feels as if they are the victim. Once the police 'kettle' was on, and the police were brewing, no other persons were allowed to get in. If you made the choice to be nosey to see what was going on before this happened, then became stuck within the 'kettle' (still perfectly legal), then that was your choice. You bleat as if the police were in the wrong, when you come on here, knowing exactly what reaction you would get. Face up to your own actions.

And, Michael Fitzpatrick was NOT murdered as you state. He aimed a gun at the cops and got what he deserved.

B-ollocks


geez

26.04.2011 21:02

please spare us your comments about how our protest was useless and how fash should have a right to demonstrate ok?

antifascist


Can you tolerate intolerance?

21.05.2011 15:56

a) Fascists are impeding on select others' right to free speech, so it is rather a paradox whether they should be entitled to their free speech, both sides of the debate have important points. Can you tolerate intolerance? Or is it the only thing that cannot be tolerated?

b) The argument that the counter-protest was needless and stupid because everyone could see what thugs the EDL (/MfE) were is ridiculous; we need to show people that this is not OK, and that people are standing against it. Ignoring the issue in this case will not make it go away. If, for example, a tourist (or even a citizen) encountered a protest such as this, and no counter protest, they will assume that all of England implicitly agrees, or at least doesn't care enough to stop it. Therefore the counter protest was useful and needed, and there was contention amongst the protesters whether the aim was to stop the other march, or just to be a visible presence of anti-fascists.

Sandy


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