I got the impression its just another blame the US and Israel for everything.
Very little criticism of any countries involved in killing people other than the US and Israel.

Scenario A:
Hitler invades the countries of Europe and starts killing people in death camps.
What do you think resisting war is going to achieve. I put it to you that doing lots of hand waving at hitler will achieve fuck all.

Talk is cheap. Guns get results.

"Scenario A:
Hitler invades the countries of Europe and starts killing people in death camps.
What do you think resisting war is going to achieve. I put it to you that doing lots of hand waving at hitler will achieve fuck all.

Talk is cheap. Guns get results."


Eeerrr, sorry to break this to ya but Hitler is dead!

"I got the impression its just another blame the US and Israel for everything.
Very little criticism of any countries involved in killing people other than the US and Israel."

Yeah, yeah I see your logic.

If somebody criticises the US and Israel then they should criticise everybody. So everybody gets painted with the same brush and the criticism is then diffused and becomes less important or relevant to the US and Israel, who are two countries with major and present records of appalling human rights abuses displaying brazen disregard for international law and who are actively engaged with making the world much less safe for us all.

So what your saying is that the war resisters should shoot themselves in the feet because you can't cope with their criticisms?

> Eeerrr, sorry to break this to ya but Hitler is dead!
Its a scenario!! God are you thick or something. Does it need explaining to you?
Are you really, really that stupid to think someone thinks Hitler is alive?
Are you really that dumb?

> So what your saying is that the war resisters should shoot themselves in the feet because you can't cope with their criticisms?
Nope. Its just an observation, leading to the conclusion that they are just US-haters in the guise of anti-war protestors. Just an opinion - chill out. I just think the idea that we all drop our guns and smell flowers together is just a bit idealist and not really workable in the real world. Maybe in a film or something.

"Its a scenario!!"

Yes, and an infantile one at that!

"Nope. Its just an observation, leading to the conclusion that they are just US-haters in the guise of anti-war protestors. Just an opinion - chill out. I just think the idea that we all drop our guns and smell flowers together is just a bit idealist and not really workable in the real world. Maybe in a film or something."

Well from an anti-war point of view the US is a fair target, not because its convenient to hate the US, but because the US insists on providing so much evidence of its tendency toward serial human rights violations. Israel is exactly the same but enacts these violations for ethnic reasons.

If they don't want, or can't cope, with criticism, then they should seek out alternative solutions that will not prompt such emnity from critics. It is not up to us to suggest what that alternative might be.

It is a truly lamentable position to take to avoid or ignore the human rights records of these two nations by trying to infer that criticism is unjustified because it isn't levelled fairly across the board.

The US and Israel have made their beds and that is a choice they have made. Having made that choice, they cannot expect to be able to defend themselves without being exposed to withering criticism and all the attendant problems that brings. This criticism will continue until either the US/Israeli cartel experiences a major jolt to its perception of reality, or it reaches a point in which it completely loses the confidence of its own citizens and the international community. We are here simply to ensure a never-ending supply of critics to do the job. In the modern media world, nations live and die on the precarious whim of public opinion. No nation, not even the US or Israel, can survive on onslaught of this scale, or persistence, without experiencing a major corruption of its fortunes.

It is not our job to give guidance on what it can do to avoid this.

By choice the US and Israel have taken the course they have, and by choice their reputations can be destroyed freely, openly and without interruption.

Anti-war protesters do not do this for fun, because they hate, or because they have nothing better to do. They do it because it is thoroughly deserved, is beneficial to us all in the long run and because it is in the interests of both the US and Israeli people and government to be stripped of their legitimacy if they adopt or follow policy that runs counter to international law or the wider public interest.

What you seem to be doing, is taking that criticism, divorcing it from that which brought it into existence, then attributing that criticism to "some other" cause such as the psychology of the critics, rather than that which is being criticised. Your comments are dismissive, disingenuous, illogical, offensive, unreasonable, in-expert and arrogant.

And I am pleased to scrape them from the readers mind whenever I see them appear.

It must be a terribly depressing thing for you, to know that you are expending so much energy and time in a pursuit that is having no effect at all!

In my experience, the only people who subscribe to this populist garbage you are desperately trying to disseminate, are those who are too stupid to make a difference anyway. Populism never works. It is a tactic derived from a failed political narrative that died two years ago.