Mark Kennedy encountered in London
Fitwatch friend | 18.02.2011 17:47 | Policing | Repression | Sheffield | World
Ex undercover policeman Mark Kennedy is now back in the UK.
The statement below has been verified by Fitwatch and the same statement will appear on their website shortly.
The statement below has been verified by Fitwatch and the same statement will appear on their website shortly.
Last week ex-undercover police spy Mark Kennedy was encountered by chance by an activist who was an erstwhile friend. Kennedy was about to board a train at Euston Station in London. The person who saw him was extremely shaken and completely unsure as to what to do, but in the end they decided to accept Kennedy's offer to talk and ask him questions.
Immediately after this meeting the person went to another trusted friend and told them as much as they could remember of the conversation, and it was written down from memory. A wider group of activists was consulted in order to decide what to do. A decision was then made to let those who had been very close to Mark know asap that he was back in the UK; they wanted to make sure that nobody else was taken by surprise in this way. Another decision was made to write the following statement for Indymedia, to share the information freely with the movement.
It is important to state at the start that obviously we all have to assume that nothing Kennedy said can be trusted; although in this conversation he claimed he would “tell the truth from now on”, he refused to answer many questions, and some of what he said was known by his questioner to be untrue (these known lies are not repeated here). In addition, we are aware of the danger that by reporting Kennedy's words there is a danger of acting as unwilling proxies for Kennedy to push his own agenda. Bearing all that in mind, the conversation is summarised below.
Kennedy's appearance and current activities
Kennedy still has short hair, undyed, and has regrown his beard that he shaved off for Max Clifford. He was wearing a waterproof jacket, dark jeans, and trainers. He said he'd sold his motorbike and the narrowboat “Tamarisk”, although it seems likely from what he said, that he might be staying on the boat temporarily somewhere on the Grand Union canal just out of London, as Euston has lines serving this area.
He said that he was working on a documentary with an independent company, who he refused to name (but who are presumably operating in London). He said that he had been in the UK for three weeks and would remain here until the documentary was finished (approx 15 weeks in total, therefore for about another 12 weeks) and then planned to leave. He said that he was not going to be working on a film, but that there would be a book
as he wanted to 'get the truth out there', and claimed that no-one would be named in the documentary or in the book.
Kennedy and the media
He is being represented by Max Clifford but said that he hadn't been paid for his Mail on Sunday article yet, and that he hadn't even read it. Much of what he said in the conversation echoed much of the story in the Mail on Sunday on January 17th, and there was not much that was new.
Kennedy's undercover career
He said that the first time he ever appeared at an action was at Faslane.
He claimed never to have worked for Global Open (see
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/01/471916.html),
saying that he went to the animal rights gathering in Italy as a 'favour for a friend'. He said that he only contacted Global Open director Heather Millgate for advice on taking a legal case against the police for being beaten up at Drax.
He said that he personally knew of no other undercover officers that were in relationships with activists.
He said that his boss (presumably at NPOIU) was called Andy Nightingale, and that Nightingale had purposefully stirred trouble in the media (for instance, saying that there was a hidden video camera in “Tamarisk”).
He was asked about the newspaper article that involved undercover policeman Peter Black ( see
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/01/472708.html), but Kennedy called him Peter Blexley. It is unclear if that was an accident or not.
He said that he had told police they there was nothing being planned for the G20 and that was no need for a big presence. He said that the cops were already in riot gear when he got there, and then Ian Tomlinson died.
The questioner's response
Kennedy was told that he should move on asap, and that it's not okay for him to be going in and out of London as it could also be incredibly painful and distressing for others to bump into him. Was told that the documentary he was making would not help anyone at all. He was reminded that he had said at the beginning of the meeting that he would tell the truth and be asked anything, and that the conversation had proven both to be untrue.
He was told that whatever he said or did, he needed to know that there was no way back and no happy ending, that nobody could ever trust him again.
Immediately after this meeting the person went to another trusted friend and told them as much as they could remember of the conversation, and it was written down from memory. A wider group of activists was consulted in order to decide what to do. A decision was then made to let those who had been very close to Mark know asap that he was back in the UK; they wanted to make sure that nobody else was taken by surprise in this way. Another decision was made to write the following statement for Indymedia, to share the information freely with the movement.
It is important to state at the start that obviously we all have to assume that nothing Kennedy said can be trusted; although in this conversation he claimed he would “tell the truth from now on”, he refused to answer many questions, and some of what he said was known by his questioner to be untrue (these known lies are not repeated here). In addition, we are aware of the danger that by reporting Kennedy's words there is a danger of acting as unwilling proxies for Kennedy to push his own agenda. Bearing all that in mind, the conversation is summarised below.
Kennedy's appearance and current activities
Kennedy still has short hair, undyed, and has regrown his beard that he shaved off for Max Clifford. He was wearing a waterproof jacket, dark jeans, and trainers. He said he'd sold his motorbike and the narrowboat “Tamarisk”, although it seems likely from what he said, that he might be staying on the boat temporarily somewhere on the Grand Union canal just out of London, as Euston has lines serving this area.
He said that he was working on a documentary with an independent company, who he refused to name (but who are presumably operating in London). He said that he had been in the UK for three weeks and would remain here until the documentary was finished (approx 15 weeks in total, therefore for about another 12 weeks) and then planned to leave. He said that he was not going to be working on a film, but that there would be a book
as he wanted to 'get the truth out there', and claimed that no-one would be named in the documentary or in the book.
Kennedy and the media
He is being represented by Max Clifford but said that he hadn't been paid for his Mail on Sunday article yet, and that he hadn't even read it. Much of what he said in the conversation echoed much of the story in the Mail on Sunday on January 17th, and there was not much that was new.
Kennedy's undercover career
He said that the first time he ever appeared at an action was at Faslane.
He claimed never to have worked for Global Open (see

saying that he went to the animal rights gathering in Italy as a 'favour for a friend'. He said that he only contacted Global Open director Heather Millgate for advice on taking a legal case against the police for being beaten up at Drax.
He said that he personally knew of no other undercover officers that were in relationships with activists.
He said that his boss (presumably at NPOIU) was called Andy Nightingale, and that Nightingale had purposefully stirred trouble in the media (for instance, saying that there was a hidden video camera in “Tamarisk”).
He was asked about the newspaper article that involved undercover policeman Peter Black ( see

He said that he had told police they there was nothing being planned for the G20 and that was no need for a big presence. He said that the cops were already in riot gear when he got there, and then Ian Tomlinson died.
The questioner's response
Kennedy was told that he should move on asap, and that it's not okay for him to be going in and out of London as it could also be incredibly painful and distressing for others to bump into him. Was told that the documentary he was making would not help anyone at all. He was reminded that he had said at the beginning of the meeting that he would tell the truth and be asked anything, and that the conversation had proven both to be untrue.
He was told that whatever he said or did, he needed to know that there was no way back and no happy ending, that nobody could ever trust him again.
Fitwatch friend
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Thank you
18.02.2011 18:55
spied on
indeed
18.02.2011 19:00
dept
If you haven't done anything illegal ...
18.02.2011 19:26
Why are you scared?
Ditto
18.02.2011 19:39
Ann Archy
Why
18.02.2011 21:56
If he had the slightest respect for others he would have crawled under a stone and stayed there. Instead he seems to be prancing around bold as brass. An incredibly difficult situation for those who run into him.
Don't let the bastard grind you down, that is what ACPO, the police and Home Office want. Don't give them the satisfaction they want.
A N Other
Are people *still* banging on about this bloke?
18.02.2011 22:19
Not OK?? What's he supposed to do? He's got to live somewhere. Grow up FFS.
Pie Muncher
Giving them the satisfaction?
18.02.2011 23:24
Jim
Kennedy’s Global Open link
19.02.2011 08:54
Heather Millgate
Kennedy supposedly approached her for advice about suing the police but instead she offers her address to set up a separate private company.
Even though Kennedy provoked the police officers who attacked him, he has good grounds to sue. So is he planning to? And is he going to use Heather Millgate as his solicitor?
(It’s interesting to note that since the Kennedy story broke, Heather Millgate has teamed up with another solicitor to launch Millgate Woodbridge. It is no longer based at Millgates’ home address -- 36 Orchard Drive, Linslade, Leighton Buzzard Beds LU7 2PL – which was also used by Kennedy.)
Anon
Names
19.02.2011 09:18
anon
Who knows for sure if the bastard ever left London or the country..
19.02.2011 10:26
Anarchist
Is there more to this?
19.02.2011 11:36
I thought yo regonised me, is that why this has come out.
What the f**k is the truth J are you and the scumbag together in this
Very Concerned
concerned
@concerned
19.02.2011 11:59
unnecessary
Anarchist
19.02.2011 12:11
Black n Red
Is there more to this
19.02.2011 12:30
Is the story bollocks - are you her putting disinformation out
Lets have some truth - Yes I am guilty as all the others for hiding my ID - why do we do this - me I am shitting myself that I watched something I shouldn't have.
Do yo want me to name her? Am I not then doing what you are accusing me of.
J - tell the real story of that meeting, cause above is not what I saw.
Still Very Concerned
Concerned
To concerned...
19.02.2011 12:37
I can't even be bothered to demolish your 'points' and 'suspicions' mentioned above as they are such a load of manufactured and meaningless speculation it would just give them credit.
Go away, stop spreading shit, and seriously examine your attitude.
Wat Tyler
Thanks
19.02.2011 12:37
ACAB
Solidarity with activist involved
19.02.2011 12:38
I have spoken to the activist involved who was very shaken by the incident and has had enough to deal with what's happened without adding to it by issuing statement in their name. The activist asked Fitwatch to verify the statement so individual security was protected, especially given the media frenzy over the Mark Kennedy story.
If you have accusations to make, don't do it on a public forum - talk to the person involved - posting on a public forum only makes you look like a police troll.
There are a lot of brave beautiful people who are coming to terms both with immense betrayal and intense media interest. They deserve our full support and solidarity rather than unnecessary hurtful comments.
a fitwatcher
e-mail:
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Homepage:
http://www.fitwatch.org.uk
shame it wasn't recorded!
19.02.2011 12:39
Next time if you get the chance, phone your own phone. It'll go to the answering machine and you'll have a record of the conversation, especially if you put it on speaker (but turn the volume right down or you'll be rumbled!)
techie
Acab
19.02.2011 12:46
Bob
Also concerned
19.02.2011 12:52
also concerned
Bob
19.02.2011 13:04
ACAB
Back at ya ACAB
19.02.2011 13:12
Bob
Peter Bleksley
19.02.2011 13:15
Grant
For example
19.02.2011 13:16
ACAB
thx
19.02.2011 13:20
I don't understand why the main concern sometimes seems to be fear of seeing him. Mark Kennedy should be the one afraid that there are likely people across Europe who are extremely angry at him. It seems highly possible that if he shows up in Germany, the response to his presence would likely not be so measured.
It makes me sick to hear that not only is Kennedy receiving money for the Mail article, but for sure he is making money off any documentary he is working on in London for apparently 20+ weeks.
Hat's off to all those fighting on this issue, I hope people sue the police and make the bastards pay.
anon
To ACAB
19.02.2011 13:27
Anyway, I think we can agree that ACAB.
Solidarity, and death to the fucking pigs, even the ones we knew.
Bob
Tamarisk
19.02.2011 14:22
ACAB
...ACAB
19.02.2011 16:08
I also agree that the above encounter was handled well given the shock...let's hope he crawls back under his rock for good.
Those people who've been crowing for his whereabouts...you have a pretty good guess now.
Anon
yadda
19.02.2011 21:38
I'm confused - what difference would knowing about Mark's boat would have made?
Have you asked anyone involved as to why there was a reason for requesting the info be hid, or is it easier to yap about it on Indymedia?
unnecessary
The whole thing stinks...
20.02.2011 09:54
I suspect that this is less a chance meeting and is actually something a little more contrived. From the beginning of this affair there have been individuals who think they know better than everyone else; they have been holding back information, soliciting communication with MK and doing deals with the corporate media. On the whole these activities are driven by the same narcissistic motivations as Kennedy's, and they are the actions of the stupid and arrogant.
Kennedy needs people within our movement to collaborate with him if he wants to make a successful documentary. I'm positive that some people will be working with him under the mis-apprehension that they can strike a blow against the police, the wider state and the capitalists, they are wrong. Kennedy's agenda is and always was all about him, he is deceitful and self obsessed and will shaft anybody in anyway necessary to achieve his aims.
Kennedy should know that there are plenty of people within our movement that understand their duty in these circumstances and even if he is feeling the love from some quarters he will never be forgiven or forgotten let alone rehabilitated.
I make no apologies for the tone of this post, I am sick of the pussy footing and double dealing.
I know that some people are understandably more emotionally vulnerable at the moment and this makes them easy prey for a predator like Kennedy. It should be the priority of their friends and comrades to protect them from him not to be facilitating his schemes.
Rudeboy
At Rudeboy and others...
20.02.2011 11:45
I personally don't think talking to him was the 'right' decision, but understand why they did it, and don't think it was an unforgiveable thing to do given the circumstances of the individual involved, and I support them despite thinking it was not the best course of action.
I do agree with you that there are a bunch of people within the 'movement' who are using this whole incident with Kennedy and the others as a way of pushing their liberal and reformist view of the state and media, but they are a very different gang of people to the people that exposed him, and the person that bumped into Kennedy.
They are (mainly) a load of people who have only got involved in politics (mainly Climate Camp) reasonably recently (although also some long term environmental activists mainly based in London and/or have Greenpeace connections) and are either lacking any radical politics, or who think that it's expedient to play them down for some 'strategic' goals.
Hope that the above clears some things up. Solidarity with those effected by the undercovers, and death to fucking liberal collaborators and cops!
A comrade
Censorship
21.02.2011 19:42
Rudeboy expresses the same sentiments as those postings.
A comrade tells us not to be worried - why
The meeting did not occur as described above - that was no chance meeting. A comrade alluses to there being Kennedy and more than one other - incorrect - just a well known female activist
Question - why fail to disclose what occurred
Answers - another agenda to which we are not party (then stoopid for posting this) - To hide what occurred that is get in first which begs the question why.
Is this person another long term undercover/commercial.
I suggest what occurred is revealed. I do not want to air our dirty laundry in public but those at Indymedia obviously know who she is so \i suggest care is taken.
Final thought - are we being manipulated by the cops, the commercials, the Guardian who the f**k knows but if cannot trust Indy to be truthful in its reports theres no chance for us.
Doomed
Worried
Kennedy was told
22.02.2011 14:36
I think *everyone* should move on asap. Storm in a fucking tea cup.
The upshot of Kennedy's ultimately doomed involvement in activism is egg all over the face of the powers that be and a series of unsafe convictions which will be overturned in court and probably result in a load of payouts for activists.
In case that needs to be spelled out: Activists - One - The Powers That Be - Nil
If that's not a proper fucking result then I don't know what activists would consider as a victory.
"It's not okay for him to be going in and out of London"
Kennedy can go anywhere he likes, just like you or I. The UK is a free country, despite protestations that it isn't - it is.
Psychic Bob
A 'free country'?!
22.02.2011 21:53
Not full time yet
a big hoohar about nothing
22.02.2011 22:25
So Kennedy can go wherever he likes can he?! Well he'd be well fucking advised not to come round to my house again!
Of course its a free country - and anyone who says likewise is going to answer to me.
So you don't like the guy? Big deal. What you going to do about it apart from wet your knickers?
Maybe he doesn't want to come around to your house again? How you thought about that? No you probably havnt.
Jesus, like a bunch of crying girls who've never fallen out with someone before.
I knew the left had no muscle, but looks like got no balls or upper lip either. Embarassing
axel
cab
15.03.2011 19:25
is anyone actually doing a campaign? is anyone making posters? organising presentations? demonstrations?
there is lots of babbling amongst activists, but what about speaking to average working class people, is anyone trying to do that?
a
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