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‘We’re More Promiscuous Than You Are’

JOE BLOGSS | 25.01.2011 18:23

An idea for our banners on saturday...

Ian Bone suggested a good antipolice banner:


‘WE’RE MORE PROMISCUOUS THAN YOU ARE’




 http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/are-anarchists-more-promiscuous-than-coppers/

JOE BLOGSS

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What a stupid, macho, outdated, self-defeating post

25.01.2011 19:25

This article plays right into the argument that police-officers pretend to 'have to' rape protesters to maintain their cover. In my experience, there is is far less sex in serious, committed movements than in any other social situation, such as work-colleagues, and that isn't prurience but common-sense.
For a sad old man like Ian Bone, who I honestly doubt has had a boner in decades, to claim otherwise shows no commonsense, no solidarity, and suggests his blood-supply would be better directed to his brain than in any futile attempt at a hard-on. And I speak as someone who is envied for all the wrong reasons.

Please everyone don't fall into the 'free-love' trap, there are enough non-activists to seduce, and much to be risked by 'office affairs'. Apart from the undercovers, there is the damage done to causes you espouse by almost inevitable recrimination once even honest affairs ends.

Soho - Hippy Chick

It's hard to tell you how I feel without hurting you
So try to think about yourself the way that I see you
Your life revolves around a force of oppression
And I won't deal with true blue devils of correction

Got no flowers for your gun, no hippy chick
Won't make love to change your mind, no hippy chick
No hippy chick, no hip hip hip hip hip

Today we'll sit here drinking coffee in your incident room
Tonight you'll close the door and lock me in that bare bulb gloom
Love, it ain't something riding on a motorbike
And love, I stopped loving you since the miner's strike

Got no flowers for your gun, no hippy chick
Won't make love to change your mind, no hippy chick
No hippy chick, no hip hip hip hip hip

It's hard
It's hard

No hip hip hip hip hip
No hippy chick

Danny


crap

25.01.2011 19:43

crap slogan

gg


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@Danny

25.01.2011 20:56

Wot you talking about Danny? Just cause you aint getting any, don't lay your problems on the rest of us!

Getting plenty


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@Danny

25.01.2011 21:02

Your lack of action is probably down to you spending too much time on the internet. Try to get out more, perhaps attend a few demos or a riot or two, worked for me.

Mark Stone


read the linked article before you comment... this is satire

25.01.2011 21:20

If you read the linked article it would be clear this is satirical, and puts it into the context that anarchists have sex for enjoyment, whereas for cops sex is a weapon of hate against their opponents.

anon


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@Danny

25.01.2011 22:06

Nasty ageist comment from you. Your guilt wracked attitudes to sex are becoming tiresome. Go and get some help to sort yourself out.

Codger


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Poly put the ketlle on...

25.01.2011 23:43

Danny is constructively suggesting that being poly equals not requiring consent??? Or is it just more or his masturbatory sexist crap he has been spewing all over the Mark Kennedy posts?

At any rate he seems to have not read the blog post. I'm no great fan of Class War, but I can still get the point that the police are the target of the jibe and not people who reject Victorian sexual attitudes.

Erectile dysfunction is apparently funny in Dannyland and engorgement some kind of macho measure of worth. All we need is some overtly hetero-normative quips and we can ghost it out to Littlejohn's column.

Danny's Rustling Raincoat


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Dannymedia

26.01.2011 00:43

Apparently complaints the unworthy behavior of indymedia collectives in the UK are flooding into IMC-PROCESS and NEW-IMC at list.indymedia.org and as a result there is a block on all the new applications such as sheffield and mayday.indymedia

As a result, it is rumored that the mir collectives will go indypendent and relaunch with the name Dannymedia.org to honor their most prized and prolific contributor.

You heard it here first!

new IMC


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Satire? About police rape? Fuck off and die

26.01.2011 00:56

"If you read the linked article it would be clear this is satirical, and puts it into the context that anarchists have sex for enjoyment, whereas for cops sex is a weapon of hate against their opponents."

Aye, fuck right off. Satire or other forms of minimising humour is not what is required just now, anger is the order of the day, and best left up for the women here not the macho retards like you or Bone.

"Nasty ageist comment from you"

So buy the syphilis riddled old bastard some viagra and give him some porn because he is way off course on this. When did Class War decide to morph into Gender War? Impotent politically and sexually, you now crack rape jokes on Indymedia and expect not to be challenged? Aye, right. If you haven't already noticed a lot of the recent problems stem from anarchists putting up with 1950's attitudes towards sex from within their own ranks. The article would be better labelled ' We are more sexist than you are', but that is simply not true anymore.

Danny


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Really, no right of reply?

26.01.2011 01:22

Cos I know 'Class War' addresses and Indymedia addresses close to me, and I know another more direct right of reply.

Danny


yes, read the article

26.01.2011 10:12

It is satire. It does make the point that coppers use sex as a weapon in their armoury.

As for making out that for activists to have affairs with each other is as bad as having an affair in the workplace - what?? How dour and controlling. Do we all have to wear big boots and combat trousers as well?

Pinkolady


Defining promiscuity.

26.01.2011 11:33

The article says:

" Strangely old fashioned word/concept ‘promiscuity’. Just means people enjoying sex outside mariage but has antiquaited condemnatory moralistic overtones"

but is that not the definition for infidelity?

Dictionary definitions for promiscuity (which is what most people would understand the word to mean) include:

-characterized by or involving indiscriminate mingling or association, esp. having sexual relations with a number of partners on a casual basis.

- undiscriminating sexual behavior: behavior characterized by casual and indiscriminate sexual intercourse, often with many people

It isn't helped by the outrageous and insulting comment from 'Class War - Barnsdale Brigade':

"How desperate would somebody have to be to shag Mark Kennedy?"

The claim that all anarchists shag around indiscriminately sounds far-fetched and unlikely.

Its a crap article


reading comprehension

26.01.2011 12:28

does no-one actually read the article?!

"Well I don’t know that anarchists are any more ‘promiscuous’ than coppers or plumbers or anyone out in the Bigg Market on a Saturday night or on the razzle anywhere."

It says in plain words that anarchists aren't any more promiscuous than most other people!

anon


no need for ageism Danny

26.01.2011 23:53

Ian Bones age shouldn't have anything to do with it. Oh, and making the claim that he's unable to have an erection, and that's something to hold against him, in the same comment where you call him macho, and talk about seducing people, shows a complete lack of awareness of what macho really means.

Fabbri


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Sorry Fabbri

27.01.2011 09:57

Sorry, I get drunk and carried away sometimes and am a bit of an obsessive rape fantasist. They only way I can get it up is by bullying people on the internet.

Danny


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Sorry Danny

27.01.2011 19:16

Apart from backstabbing Indymedia UK with articles on Indymedia Scotland, smearing protestors here, abusing IP addresses of Indymedia Scotland posters using identity theft, denying that IP addresses are available to admins there, preventing Tor anonymised posts there and lying about that here, failing to hold public meetings, I also admit that I've been passing details of Indymedia posts to my local police force for the past five years. I'm just doing my job.

Fabbri


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Bad choice IM UK

27.01.2011 21:03

See, by ill-advised partisan moderation such as this, then you are really forcing my hand. You've allowed a demeaning smear that you know not to be from me, and not allowed my factual riposte.

Now not only are you making it clear that you don't my genuine contributions here, you have indicated to me that you are collectively standing by the smearers and police informers. It's going to be an interesting time for a lot of people I associate with you.

Danny
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My final test of sincerity for IM over IM Scotland abuse

27.01.2011 23:29

In appreciation of the belated moderation, and with you knowing I'm not scared of prison, a few last questions for Fabbri.

>Ian Bones age shouldn't have anything to do with it.
That is my main point, something we can both agree on.

>Oh, and making the claim that he's unable to have an erection, and that's something to hold against him, in the same comment where you call him macho, and talk about seducing people, shows a complete lack of awareness of what macho really means.

Well I bow to your experience with Ian. Just joking, I doubt you two are related. My point was valid if abusive imo, and Ian to his credit never complained, whereas your response was just abusive of your power here.



Now Fabbri down to (previously ignored or hidden) business.While I have you here, and don't have to resort to threats to get moderate moderation here, can you answer the questions I previously asked that you previously ignored?


Why are you claiming that Indymedia Scotland accepts anonymised posts except for a temporary glitch, when it has never accepted anonymised posts in my experience or in the experience of any activist I know? To me and many others, the fact you lie about that is self-condemning.

Why did you and other IM Scotland admins demean such previous criticism that you were abusing IP addresses as paranoid claiming no IM Scotland admin could possibly see IP addresses since that is obviously false on any website?

Why did you leak information about not only your own set-up, but about the people who posted on your website? I can list details even if you delete links.

If you have no answers to the previous questions, and you haven't answered them yet after years of questioning, how can you defend yourself against the charges you are known associates of admitted police informers?

Why is Indymedia Scotland currently publishing articles demeaning IM UK when it is the only IM collective in my experience to both allow anonymous posts and not grass up it's users? If I am misrepresenting you then do you wish for this post to be hidden or argued online?



Wider questions to other IMCistas,

Since you obviously trust IM Scotland admins more than I do for some strange reason, why are they also admins here? Why don't you mind that they backstab you? Don't other IM collectives hold open meetings that the public can join - isn't that a requirement for Im Collectives?

And isn't there a journalistic, an activist requirement to investigate allegations of abuse from within your own groups?

No threats, no abuse, just a few questions that have went unanswered for years. From experience I don't expect any reply, but I would respectfully appreciate if this post was kept online for other nobodies like me to see. Because I currently have more reason to be angry than to fear any possible further police action.

I hope I kept that polite, and I hope I can at least have couple of answers, finally.

love and peas,

PS From recent posts here I know beyond doubt that one of my email addresses has been hacked by an Indymedia poster. Big deal, it wasn't confidential, but as you've probably guessed I would appreciate straight-dealing from this collective on this post rather than more abuse.

Danny


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