14 year old arrested after suspected petrol bomb youtube footage
carny | 15.01.2011 13:32
A 14 year old boy has been bailed after police found footage UPLOADED ON YOUTUBE of someone running with a suspected petrol bomb. There are some serious lessons to be learnt here about security in public order situations.
What looks like a mobile phone video was posted on youtube and subsequently released by the police on thursday. On friday a 14 year old boy was arrested. He has now been bailed to return in march.
The police are now trying to track down the person who originally posted the video. It appears the met are still unsure what happened after the video, which ends with a protester running into the distance with the alleged petrol bomb in hand. There appears no proof that any petrol bomb was thrown or even existed.
There are clearly here two solid reasons why you don't post stuff like this on youtube. Firstly, the pigs are watching - whoever posted this video is risking the life and liberty of a fellow protester. Secondly and far less importantly, although I hope it scares people out of doing this again - whoever posted this video is currently themselves being tracked by the cops. The same cops who put out pictures of protesters - who in some cases are not even suspected of committing crimes, but are just wanted as witnesses. The photos that are published in the daily mail alongside vicious headlines.
Don't distribute potentially incriminating footage of public order situations. Just don't do it.
But if you're going to, the very least you could do is blur out faces and destroy the original so when the pigs come knocking (and they will, have no doubt), they can't get at it.
The footage can be seen as part of this corporate news report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id5G_d9obPE
The police are now trying to track down the person who originally posted the video. It appears the met are still unsure what happened after the video, which ends with a protester running into the distance with the alleged petrol bomb in hand. There appears no proof that any petrol bomb was thrown or even existed.
There are clearly here two solid reasons why you don't post stuff like this on youtube. Firstly, the pigs are watching - whoever posted this video is risking the life and liberty of a fellow protester. Secondly and far less importantly, although I hope it scares people out of doing this again - whoever posted this video is currently themselves being tracked by the cops. The same cops who put out pictures of protesters - who in some cases are not even suspected of committing crimes, but are just wanted as witnesses. The photos that are published in the daily mail alongside vicious headlines.
Don't distribute potentially incriminating footage of public order situations. Just don't do it.
But if you're going to, the very least you could do is blur out faces and destroy the original so when the pigs come knocking (and they will, have no doubt), they can't get at it.
The footage can be seen as part of this corporate news report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id5G_d9obPE
carny
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Petrol bomb or rolled up copy of the Socialist Worker
15.01.2011 13:39
plod
There are some serious lessons to be learnt here about security in public order
15.01.2011 14:12
Its the kids fault. Not the camera man; not the police; stop trying to pass the blame
For every action, there is a consequence. If you throw a petrol bomb then thats your business. You know what you were doing, you know it was wrong, you know the law, you know the consequences. Yet, you somehow seem to think you are exempt!? well fuck off
ted
ted ...
15.01.2011 14:53
As for petrol bombs, the cops are willing to bludgeon protesters over the head with batons and open fire on protesters kicking a royal car (plenty of police sources have said they're surprised this didn't happen). They're willing to allow a huge crowd into parliament square, kettle them so there's nowhere to run and then horse charge them. They're willing to deploy undercover officers to rape people involved in social movements in order to extract information. They're willing to murder someone non-threatening and cover it up on the day with lies and incompetent pathologists, and when the story comes out they refuse to bring any charges against the man who struck the fatal blow.
And what are these dangerous domestic extremists trying to do? Stop the elite hijacking education. Highlight the gross poverty gap that is exemplified no better than a royal couple driving with heads in the clouds to a west end show through a crowd protesting the assault on their futures. And stop climate change which is already taking its horrendous toll upon powerless people worldwide.
What authority do the cops have to do this? Clearly no moral authority. Only state-granted authority. The state claims a monopoly on violence which allows it to bitterly condemn harris fencing being used to move police officers, while praising as heroes the brainwashed kids they send across the world to kill strangers and be killed by strangers in order to protect 'vital state assets' like someone else's oil or security we wouldn't need if we stopped treating the world like our playground.
Fuck the cops, why weep for them when they take blood money in order to suppress peoples' movements that threaten to deliver real empowering democracy out of the hands of the elites. Their pay packets are funded by the very people they suppress. And in the midst of all this, someone ALLEGEDLY lobs a petrol bomb at them and THAT'S the injustice you scream about? Seriously, get some perspective.
amused
Nice to know the mirror is reporting facts
15.01.2011 15:07
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/01/15/schoolboy-14-arrested-for-allegedly-throwing-student-fees-petrol-bomb-115875-22849996/
phil
Cynical Stunt
15.01.2011 19:15
Velma
So because we live in a repressive State we should stop doing stuff?
16.01.2011 06:28
Watsit
calm down calm down
16.01.2011 09:11
clearly the article writer was not saying stay at home and do nowt, they were sensibly saying some people need to stop endangering other people by their obsession with spectacular images and videos which reveal identities or add to police files/evidence... in my young days anyone with a camera or video camera in a riot situation was politely asked and then less politely told to stop, or action was taken. not everything about new technology has a totally positive effect.
vyacheslav
@ted: completely missing the point
16.01.2011 17:29
But... SOME OF US THINK IT IS GOOD TO THROW MOLOTOVS AT THE POLICE! So we should be doing all we can to help people like this break the law and get away with it. And those collaborators who snitch deserve the consequences of what they get.
Maybe you are a sheep who blindly follows what the state tells you and obeys without question the laws that are created by the rich and powerful. But some people aren't, and more power to them.
Good luck to whoever was arrested, hopefully they won't pin anything on you.
anon
Can anyone find any report of a molotov going off at the protest?
16.01.2011 17:36
And running that long with a lit molotov in your hand seems a wee bit crazeeee.
Are the cops blatantly misusing unclear footage to up the temperature before the demo on the 19th? And are the journos who think that an undercover cop amongst 'fluffly tree huggers' is a bit too much, allowing that to happen?
We should be told