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so who told the grauniad?

12.01.2011 22:20

so... was it someone at the meeting at the bookfair told the fucking guardian about Lynn eh?

further to previous threads, yes we agreed to say nothing to the media. Everyone there agreed to this as far as i remember and others agree. Regardless of macho dickwaving and namecalling, this was for several very good reasons; including to try and prevent journo wankers tracking down 'friends', 'lovers', 'shocked comrades' (in speech marks because on Mark's part, it was all lies) who didn't want to be traced; because its OUR business and we don't need shock and bollocks either in the rightwing or liberal press to know our ideas and struggles exist; because you can't sup with the fucking press without getting done up the arse. I know there are differences of opinion in the climate/EF!/green scene (real words fail me), and with some swallowing of bile I can understand why activists who have not been burned yet still feel there is value in media coverage, but really its a waste of energy that leads nowhere. Either its a flash in the pan news story (pun intended) or people get personally shafted, or there gets created new media bourgeois figures to "represent" us - wank. We need to have confidence in ourselves and our own ideas, ways of communicating, instead of chasing headlines. People are now quite merrily stepping in to fulfil the expected roles of "shocked comrades', 'bitter friends' - new fodder for column inches for a week then forgotten.

We could starve press vultures of their carrion by refusing to post juicy meat for them.

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12.01.2011 22:31

Revealed: Second undercover police officer who posed as activist

Spy spent four years living in Leeds and played a central role in planning a demonstration to shut down the Drax power station

The controversy over a police surveillance network embedded in the environmental protest movement deepened dramatically tonight after the Guardian identified a second undercover officer who spent years living a double life as an activist.
The woman's name has been known to a group of six activists since Mark Kennedy – the police infiltrator identified by the Guardian on Monday as having spent seven years inside the movement – claimed she was also a police officer when confronted by them about his own identity last October.
Senior police chiefs said tonight that they were concerned for the safety of the second spy, and a major operation involving several UK forces is now under way to identify other operatives whose safety may have been compromised by Kennedy.
The second spy spent four years living as an environmental activist in Leeds, gaining the trust of dozens of activists and playing a central role in planning a demonstration to shut down Drax power station in North Yorkshire.
Her deployment ended in 2008, when she told activist friends she was leaving town for personal reasons. The Guardian has established the identity of the officer, who is from a force in the south-east of England, but has decided, after representations from senior police officers, to refer to her only as Officer A, and to use pixellated pictures of her.
Meanwhile politicians across Europe demanded information about the activities of Kennedy, the first undercover operative identified, who was on Tuesday accused of having had several sexual relationships with activists while undercover – relationships denounced as "unacceptable" by senior police sources today.
His UK-based handlers have flown to the US in an attempt to find an agent now accepted to have "gone rogue".
Aside from questions over his conduct while undercover, Kennedy, a Metropolitan police officer, committed a serious breach of protocol when he told friends from the protest movement that Officer A was his colleague. A police chief with detailed knowledge of the deployments of undercover officers in the protest movement said Kennedy's breach of protocol could lead to the "relocation of a considerable number of people".
That included undercover officers currently involved in ongoing police investigations across the UK and their families. "This is serious stuff," the police chief said. "Lots of people are at risk – their lives are at risk."
Kennedy, who has expressed remorse over an operation he told friends was "wrong", now appears to have been a key player in a pan-European network of leftwing and environmental groups.
Using a fake passport, he travelled to more than 22 countries from his base in Nottingham. A parliamentarian in Germany said today Kennedy had been "operating on the border of illegality" in the country, and demanded disclosure about the operation. Kennedy's activities in Iceland, Ireland and Italy are also coming under scrutiny.
Documents obtained by the Guardian also suggest that, after quitting the Met last March, Kennedy attempted to continue to use his adopted identity to infiltrate protest groups. In an indication he planned to turn his hand to corporate espionage, Kennedy, who is said to have had money problems, set up two companies. One is connected to an individual who previously worked at Global Open, a private security firm set up by a former special branch detective. The company specialises in keeping a "discreet watch" on protest groups.
Today, police chiefs discussed the unfolding crisis at a meeting of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), which has limited company status and to which Kennedy and Officer A were seconded.
It is now believed several undercover police officers have been living long-term in the environmental movement, feeding intelligence back to the National Public Order Intelligence Unit (NPOIU), an Acpo body that runs a nationwide intelligence database of political activists. After concerns were raised about the accountability of NPOIU, police chiefs came up with a plan to move the unit to Scotland Yard. Subject to agreement, the unit will be taken over by Met officers next month.
However, a major review will now be under way into the oversight of officers such as Kennedy. Explaining why he and Officer A had spent so long undercover, the police chief said: "It is simply because of the environment. If you are a deeply ideologically motivated person … then getting close to you to understand your thought processes – and some idea of what you're doing – takes a lot longer."
He added that Kennedy's numerous sexual relations with women would not have been officially sanctioned. "That is conduct that is not acceptable," he said.
* Paul Lewis, Rob Evans and Vikram Dodd
* guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 12 January 2011 21.30 GMT

The Guardian


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i bet it was...

12.01.2011 22:33

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two requests

12.01.2011 22:53

is there any basis for this?

any pictures of the person in question?

fjksdjfkfdsj


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WE?

12.01.2011 23:22

'yes we agreed to say nothing to the media. Everyone there agreed to this as far as i remember and others agree. Regardless of macho dickwaving and namecalling, this was for several very good reasons; including to try and prevent journo wankers tracking down 'friends', 'lovers', 'shocked comrades' (in speech marks because on Mark's part, it was all lies) who didn't want to be traced; because its OUR business'

So by 'we' you mean some people in a meeting in London. Do you actually believe that all concerned were represented at that meeting?

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@wine merchant

12.01.2011 23:31

No it wasn't [removed]

but please let us know who you are or are you one of these fuckwits who like to stir shit on indymedia without having the balls to take some responsibility.

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Attn [removed]

12.01.2011 23:47

So are you saying you are not talking to the press? Because it is very widely perceived, even among your friends, that you are.

Nipper


Sniff em out

12.01.2011 23:58

Yes, we need to find these people, Lyn and Mark; and the press are better at it than we are. The Guardian is covering up for Lyn who it seems is still a serving cop. I know I feel there are still moles in our movement and they are fucking it up. This suppression of debate is understandable, but actually its helping them. I was at Drax and I worked as hard as anyone. Ive got a right to know what this female spy looked like, just as much as these little anarcho cliques who love to keep everything to themselves.

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