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Did plain-clothes security break the law at Topshop protest?

Jasper - DIrectReaction | 06.12.2010 11:06 | Public sector cuts | Social Struggles

Plainclothes security were involved in clearing the UKUncut protesters from Topshop on Saturday. But who did they work for, and why weren't they showing identification?

Plainclothes Security, but who were they working for?
Plainclothes Security, but who were they working for?


During the first few minutes of the UKUncut protest at Sir Philip Green's flagship Topshop store on Oxford Street on Saturday, burly men in nondescript clothing were seen shoving protesters out of the shop. These men appear to have been plainclothes security guards, but they were showing no identification to distinguish them from members of the public.

The two men pictured (excuse the blur) are on film shown by Channel 4 News manhandling protesters. They were also present throughout the whole protest, observing from the side of the street. When asked who they worked for, the men refused to identify themselves, and said they did not “work for any company”. But if they weren't working for Topshop, who were they working for? And what were they doing throwing people out of the store?

Security personnel should be licensed by regulatory body the Security Industry Association (SIA). The conditions of these licenses state that security staff must “wear the licence where it can be seen at all times when engaging in designated licensable activity”. Licensed security staff can hide their licenses if “the nature of their conduct on that occasion requires that they should not be immediately identifiable as someone engaging in such conduct”, but it seems difficult to argue that dealing with protests is such an activity. Breaching the conditions of the licence is an offence under the Private Security Industry Act 2001.

Other plainclothes security were present at the protest. A police sergeant helping coordinate the police operation told DirectReaction that these men had identified themselves as working for Sir Philip Green himself. When she asked them about the two men who had previously been evicting protesters, who were now standing just metres away, Green's team said they did not know who the men were working for, and that they were not part of the same team.

Topshop parent Arcadia has not yet responded to requests to discuss the use of plainclothes security at the protest. We want to ask them who were these men who were clearly employed by someone to help control the protest? If they are licensed security staff, then they appear to have broken the law by failing to display identification. If they weren't, then under what authority were they entitled to eject protesters from the store?

The government can exempt security personnel from the licensing regime if their employers are deemed to have an equivalent set of vetting procedures that protect the public. But if that applies to the men at Topshop, does Green operate some kind of special security unit that has applied to the government for authorisation to avoid being licensed?

The use of plainclothes police to monitor protests has already caused a stir, but there is no reason private security staff should be held to a lesser standard, especially if they are engaged in crowd control. Plainclothes security have already been criticised by photographers for using undue force at earlier UKUncut protests against Vodafone. If they are going to be throwing around protesters, they should be accountable, and that means making sure the public know who they are.

Jasper - DIrectReaction
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I saw...

06.12.2010 11:52

I saw 2 men, one in a brown coat another in a black coat, both with backpacks kept on both shoulders talking to the police besides police vans on Margaret St at 1045 just before the Top Shop action. Could it have been them? (Though I don't remember them having hoddies at least they weren't up when they were with the police.)

Someone


Report it

06.12.2010 12:21

Make an official report to the Met and indicate there is photographic and video evidence. Don't let their violent behaviour go unchecked.

Oats


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Get a grip...

06.12.2010 18:16

Its not like anarchists never break the law or bend the rules is it?
You lot just sound like hypocritical 2-faced cunts. Expecting everyone else to obey the law to the letter, then going around and breaking it every 30 seconds arguing that they have impunity

Utter bullshit - I cant even take you seriously and I expect most other normal people cant either.
To people who have such disregard for "the law" and "policemen", I really don't give a shit what they think.

ed


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Ed

06.12.2010 18:46

Was someone arguing for impunity or are you just revealing your stereotypical mind?

Well what do you suggest? That we boycott the law and lynch people??? It's probably what a bigot whose understanding of anarchism is nil would expect.

Oats


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Dear Constable 'ed'

07.12.2010 00:21

You lot just sound like hypocritical 2-faced cunts. Expecting everyone else to obey the law to the letter, then going around and breaking it every 30 seconds arguing that they have impunity

The above comment appears to come from a disgruntled Police Oficer, who else would use language like that.

Ed, do you know the 2 men involved? I you don't then you should use your best endeavours to find out, as they will give the police a bad name, as people will assume they are cops.
If they are private security then you should investigate them to find out why they had no identification, after all they are stealing your job from under your nose.

Btw peaceful protesters are arrested and prosecuted if they break the law. Doesn't work both ways though, does it?

informer


An Education in the law

08.12.2010 22:09

The SIA states that all security personnel who hold a door supervisor license or a manned guarding license should display this license but it also states that officers holding a close protection license do not have to display this or identify themselves this is clearly stated within the private security industry authority act and underpinned by the SIA and enforcement bodies

In addition If these individuals operate in an in house capacity paid direct then they do not even have to hold a license or be trained

If these officers work direct for Philip Green then there is no case to answer to if the officers hold a close protection license there is no case to answer to either

Personally i think your pissing in the wind trying to find out who the officers are let's face it they could have been UK government, military or other law enforcement and if they are private security industry there going to be highly trained to the point of dodging a few students should be a walk in the park or how do i put it "A fight i'n topshop"

Sean Colsey


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10.12.2010 22:51

Jasper I now understand why your so frustrated at the rise in university fees it's now clear your frustration is because you are clearly ill educated to the point you type a question and then answer it within your own text!

A tip as I am sure you are on of these losers that are studying first year law and think donning a fluresunt bib with legal observer on it makes them the next high court judge....your barely make the next judge judy mate at this rate

Take a look at the Private security industry act and tell me what part it says Close Protection operatives have to display there licences and in addition if Phil Green does deploy his own team they don't have to do any of what you so rightly say but then you know that because you already said it in the last but one paragraph

You lot think it's wise to vandalise and assault people and then cry when it gets turned on you well how about people come to your home and trespass and cause mayhem see how you fell about it

Tom carter


Unite to fight

10.12.2010 23:02

wait and see what is planned tomorrow last week was just the start the coalition government and Sir Green will not bevable to hide and the private undercover security can't change that regardless of who they really are the government place such highly trained individuals in to protect a tax evading citizen
But they will not be able to handle the wave of mass rebellion We know these individuals are army or police that's how they disappear in and out and were seen speaking to high ranking police

Government scum unite to fight for the right Rise up on the 11th and the global anniversary of are four fathers unite to fight unite to fight

Unite to fight


These were police or military

10.12.2010 23:10

Oats these were police or military after further evidence came to light we now know it was a mixed team we will be making reports to the pcc about police behaviour

Unite to fight rise up

Jasper


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