The EDL, Preston & The Police
'Malatesta' | 28.11.2010 09:33 | Anti-racism | Policing | World
The EDL caused the usual ruckus in Preston and Nuneaton yesterday whilst this week the police claim they are not a right wing extremist group.
‘E – E – Eejits’ by ‘Malatesta’
Just as folk around the UK have been protesting against the increase in student fees, public spending cuts and doing Christmas shopping, the English Defence League have been ‘peacefully protesting’ against Islamic extremists by doing the usual routine of turning up where they are not wanted, causing a lot of bother and then going home again thinking ‘a job well done.’ Yesterday, the EDL gathered in Preston and saw the town disrupted, local folk irritated and 14 arrests. Not only that, but the demo split into 2 groups that ended up fighting each other. They also had a little do in Nuneaton which also descended into the predictable violence. The EDL were hoping to make a national splash by having these 2 demos but they simply do not have the numbers to sustain this.
Plod Bother
The role of the police in these repetitious events deserves scrutiny. Yesterday, the EDL demo took place at the same time as a Preston NE/Milwall game. The EDL knew they could pick up a few sympathisers (though most supporters ignored them) and that the racists in the Milwall ranks were bound to cause a stir. Why would the police allow the demo for this day knowing the reputation of the Milwall hardcore? It had all the potential for violence and that is what happened. The police were once again underprepared whilst smoke grenades were going off and the ‘peaceful’ EDL were violent. Some members turned on their stewards – who were just as inadequate as in Leicester – and battered them in order to get out of the kettle and into the opposition. In Nuneaton, the EDL also got physical with the cops after their attack on the UAF was rebuffed. Some photos of the demo have been published here:
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/
Also, why did the police make such a mess of the Leicester demo? They had been making noises about large numbers of cops on the scene and co-operation from a dozen or so other forces. There were more cops than demonstrators on the day but they completely failed to impede the violence and disorder that lasted the entire day. In Bolton the police over-reacted towards the anti-EDL demo with some vigour resulting in plenty of nickings whilst they let the EDL carry on with disrupting the town. In Stoke, the police completely failed to contain the EDL who ran amok through a largely Asian area of town causing damage. And so on. This week Detective Chief Superintendent Adrian Tudway, national co-ordinator for domestic extremism, claimed that the EDL were not an extremist right wing organisation. Which begs the question: how do you define extremist right wingers? Are racists, members of the BNP and other far right groups, hooligans and criminals whose group have a history of violence simply ‘rowdy’ rather than extremists?
This looks like a shift of focus from the EDL in order to concentrate on the ‘extremists’ who are protesting about education and public sector jobs being axed. Which makes semi-sense in that the major concern for people in this country is not some silly Islamic extremist burning poppies (loathsome though they may be) but the fact that whilst banks are happy to keep their profits, they are even happier for us to cover their losses. Folk are concerned over the future for themselves and their children regarding education and also the fact that many jobs are going to be axed, benefits slashed and people are looking at a future that makes the 80s look like the 60s with a flowery hat on.
The question is why do the police let the EDL cause the problems that they do knowing how the demos always spiral into violence? This is an age of severe economic problems with local councils facing the task of redundancies and public spending cuts. The police are also looking at cuts in funding and numbers. What do the EDL do? Turn up in places to cause trouble and leave the town with an estimated £500,000 bill. Thanks. The EDL are not unaware of this having previously threatened councils with demonstrations if they do “not keep the word Christmas in the annual celebrations and opt for Winter Festival, out of the politically correct appeasement of others to the detriment of our traditions.” Which is blackmail.
Rock On Tommy!
A couple of weeks ago, Searchlight released a photo of the EDL leader Tommy Robinson AKA Stephen Yaxley-Lennon at a BNP meeting. Many antifascist websites ran the picture and questioned the veracity of the EDL’s statements that they weren’t racist and Tommy had ‘never’ been a member of the BNP. And how did the EDL leadership respond? In their usual way. By keeping very quiet and hoping it would all go away. The EDL members who usually comment on ‘Malatesta’ articles did not respond either.
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/1002/Nailed!
Tommy has had a year of legal woes to say the least. He has been arrested 6 times this year, the most recent at the Remembrance Day demo where he attempted to ‘seize the flag’ of Islamic extremists. What he actually did was leap into the arms of waiting officers who immediately arrested him. Some have said that Tommy was trying to make up for his humiliation in Holland the other week where antifascists walked straight up to him and snatched his flag as the rest of the EDL ran off. Footage from this incident was posted all over the internet. See at 9.50.
http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=11633256
Tommy is the organiser of a violent far right group whose members include known football hooligans, fascists and other criminal elements. It is not too much of a speculation to say that the police may lean on him for information about them. He is in trouble over mortgage fraud allegations and his previous record of arrests and his time in prison for assaulting a cop are not going to do him any favours when he ends up in court. Tommy is basking in the media spotlight whilst he can for he knows his time is nearly up. And this is part of the EDL’s attraction: weekend warriors getting together, getting drunk and getting their faces on TV so they can boast about it in the pub to their mates. It makes them feel that they are ‘someone.’
The EDL leader is also looking at serious schisms in his group. Whilst he publicly states that they are not violent or racist there is still that hardcore determined to cause trouble and Tommy has no control over them. The EDL are also keen to trumpet their non-homophobic stance but sadly several EDL lads battered a gay member last week which underscores that what the EDL website says and what the EDL actually does are usually drastically different. Again.
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Just as folk around the UK have been protesting against the increase in student fees, public spending cuts and doing Christmas shopping, the English Defence League have been ‘peacefully protesting’ against Islamic extremists by doing the usual routine of turning up where they are not wanted, causing a lot of bother and then going home again thinking ‘a job well done.’ Yesterday, the EDL gathered in Preston and saw the town disrupted, local folk irritated and 14 arrests. Not only that, but the demo split into 2 groups that ended up fighting each other. They also had a little do in Nuneaton which also descended into the predictable violence. The EDL were hoping to make a national splash by having these 2 demos but they simply do not have the numbers to sustain this.
Plod Bother
The role of the police in these repetitious events deserves scrutiny. Yesterday, the EDL demo took place at the same time as a Preston NE/Milwall game. The EDL knew they could pick up a few sympathisers (though most supporters ignored them) and that the racists in the Milwall ranks were bound to cause a stir. Why would the police allow the demo for this day knowing the reputation of the Milwall hardcore? It had all the potential for violence and that is what happened. The police were once again underprepared whilst smoke grenades were going off and the ‘peaceful’ EDL were violent. Some members turned on their stewards – who were just as inadequate as in Leicester – and battered them in order to get out of the kettle and into the opposition. In Nuneaton, the EDL also got physical with the cops after their attack on the UAF was rebuffed. Some photos of the demo have been published here:
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/
Also, why did the police make such a mess of the Leicester demo? They had been making noises about large numbers of cops on the scene and co-operation from a dozen or so other forces. There were more cops than demonstrators on the day but they completely failed to impede the violence and disorder that lasted the entire day. In Bolton the police over-reacted towards the anti-EDL demo with some vigour resulting in plenty of nickings whilst they let the EDL carry on with disrupting the town. In Stoke, the police completely failed to contain the EDL who ran amok through a largely Asian area of town causing damage. And so on. This week Detective Chief Superintendent Adrian Tudway, national co-ordinator for domestic extremism, claimed that the EDL were not an extremist right wing organisation. Which begs the question: how do you define extremist right wingers? Are racists, members of the BNP and other far right groups, hooligans and criminals whose group have a history of violence simply ‘rowdy’ rather than extremists?
This looks like a shift of focus from the EDL in order to concentrate on the ‘extremists’ who are protesting about education and public sector jobs being axed. Which makes semi-sense in that the major concern for people in this country is not some silly Islamic extremist burning poppies (loathsome though they may be) but the fact that whilst banks are happy to keep their profits, they are even happier for us to cover their losses. Folk are concerned over the future for themselves and their children regarding education and also the fact that many jobs are going to be axed, benefits slashed and people are looking at a future that makes the 80s look like the 60s with a flowery hat on.
The question is why do the police let the EDL cause the problems that they do knowing how the demos always spiral into violence? This is an age of severe economic problems with local councils facing the task of redundancies and public spending cuts. The police are also looking at cuts in funding and numbers. What do the EDL do? Turn up in places to cause trouble and leave the town with an estimated £500,000 bill. Thanks. The EDL are not unaware of this having previously threatened councils with demonstrations if they do “not keep the word Christmas in the annual celebrations and opt for Winter Festival, out of the politically correct appeasement of others to the detriment of our traditions.” Which is blackmail.
Rock On Tommy!
A couple of weeks ago, Searchlight released a photo of the EDL leader Tommy Robinson AKA Stephen Yaxley-Lennon at a BNP meeting. Many antifascist websites ran the picture and questioned the veracity of the EDL’s statements that they weren’t racist and Tommy had ‘never’ been a member of the BNP. And how did the EDL leadership respond? In their usual way. By keeping very quiet and hoping it would all go away. The EDL members who usually comment on ‘Malatesta’ articles did not respond either.
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/1002/Nailed!
Tommy has had a year of legal woes to say the least. He has been arrested 6 times this year, the most recent at the Remembrance Day demo where he attempted to ‘seize the flag’ of Islamic extremists. What he actually did was leap into the arms of waiting officers who immediately arrested him. Some have said that Tommy was trying to make up for his humiliation in Holland the other week where antifascists walked straight up to him and snatched his flag as the rest of the EDL ran off. Footage from this incident was posted all over the internet. See at 9.50.
http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=11633256
Tommy is the organiser of a violent far right group whose members include known football hooligans, fascists and other criminal elements. It is not too much of a speculation to say that the police may lean on him for information about them. He is in trouble over mortgage fraud allegations and his previous record of arrests and his time in prison for assaulting a cop are not going to do him any favours when he ends up in court. Tommy is basking in the media spotlight whilst he can for he knows his time is nearly up. And this is part of the EDL’s attraction: weekend warriors getting together, getting drunk and getting their faces on TV so they can boast about it in the pub to their mates. It makes them feel that they are ‘someone.’
The EDL leader is also looking at serious schisms in his group. Whilst he publicly states that they are not violent or racist there is still that hardcore determined to cause trouble and Tommy has no control over them. The EDL are also keen to trumpet their non-homophobic stance but sadly several EDL lads battered a gay member last week which underscores that what the EDL website says and what the EDL actually does are usually drastically different. Again.
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Maltesa or whatever your name is
28.11.2010 15:39
First up millwall (correct spelling) game was cancelled.Second, the Stewards did not get battered.Third, why were the locals applauding.
miss jones
miss jones or whatever your name is.
28.11.2010 16:28
As you are getting a little pedantic regards spelling I thought it was worth pointing out that there should be a question mark at the end of your pithy comment. Hope this is helpful.
whatever your name is
Website were Alan Turner EDL funder& ideologue advocates mass genocide
28.11.2010 20:15
total moderate& lovely chap,
James
EDL & Football firms and melling spistakes
28.11.2010 20:38
I am led to believe that the majority of those attending the EDL Demo's are men, both young and old, from football firms. Unfortunately, some Millwall fans have always associated themselves with the NF - I can remember them as far back as the mid / late 70's
I was in bolton for that exhibition and walked freely in amongst the EDL getting close to the centre where I could ask why they were flying the flag of Israel, no one knew.
I also went to the preston exhibition where, again amongst those great minds, having asked my Isreal flag question, and receving the same answer, I asked if they considered the control and influence that the banking institutes had were not the most significant threat faced by the UK where I was told by one who appeared to be a mover and shaker that "we hate (insulting name) and Fuckin (*&^% ) and any cunt not from the uk"
His small football pin led me to ask if that applied to footballers, he advised me that no one had team had P*&% footballers..............
Combat Combat 18
tommy robinson bnp
29.11.2010 09:01
and still no word from the EDL supporters about the picture. funny that isn't it as it rather contradicts their 'we ain't racist or nuffink' pose and shows them that they are being led by a former BNP member. oh dear! and don't forget all that lovely money he is making from you all. eejits!
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What trouble?
29.11.2010 11:44
A few fireworks set off and a couple of harmless smoke bombs,
So, why did the author of the article lie?
It is true, I also shoppers showing support for the EDL.
The turn out of anti fascists was laughable.
Given Indymedia as had many articles praising anti fascist, who are prepared to confront fascists. Where were they in Preston or Nuneaton?
Antifa never seem to turn up, do they actually ever do anything?
Apart from giving it the big one on the Internet.
There were running battles at Leicester between the EDL and Muslim youths, where the Muslims came of worse.
Where were antifa then?
There were also some minor street fights after the Nuneaton march, again no antifa, and again Muslim youths came worse off.
Anti fascists always complain about EDL violence, but at the same time always brag about battering fascists.
Though a lot of that seems to be hot air.
Joe
Preston Millwall
29.11.2010 19:12
Also, I was in Preston City Centre on Saturday and would like to commend the police as it seemed to me they were incredibly organised and managed well policing the large number of demonstrators / onlookers.
Finally, as a Prestonian I am horrified that the EDL would chose to protest in the city I have grown up in and in which I still choose to reside.
Jen
eejits
29.11.2010 19:57
"There were running battles at Leicester between the EDL and Muslim youths, where the Muslims came of worse.. There were also some minor street fights after the Nuneaton march, again no antifa, and again Muslim youths came worse off."
not very peaceful is it, bragging about fighting? and surprisingly, still no comment about tommy robinson in that BNP pic yet. here it is Joe (Jeff Marsh) in case you forget what your glorious dimunitive leader looks like:
http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2010/11/edls-tommy-robinson-at-luton-bnp.html
hes the short arsed fuck nut on the left (for once) looking like he's wet himself. which he will when he returns to prison soon. watch this space.
'Malatesta'
EDL leader with BNP candidate
29.11.2010 20:43
Independent and alternative
EDL leader with BNP and Nazis
30.11.2010 09:58
Independent and autonomous
EDL links to the BNP, NF and Combat 18
30.11.2010 10:12
Channel 4 have blocked this video in the UK for copyright reasons, so download and use HotSpot Shield (with cookies turned OFF / blocked) to by-pass the block and watch the video here as well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrV93U1I3f8
http://hotspotshield.com/
Video
Still No Response?
01.12.2010 08:33
how odd, still no response from the EDL about Tommy and the BNP photo. they go very quiet when confronted with the evidence don't they? what a bunch of assclowns. sooner or later they are gonig to realise ...
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