EDL Racists
'Malatesta' | 26.08.2010 12:44 | Anti-racism | Sheffield | World
Racists
The English Defence League are very good at creating disinformation but not very good at being convincing. The smokescreen phrases like ‘multi-racial’, ‘non-racist’ and ‘unity’ are completely undermined by a quick look at UK racist web forums which support them. First of all, the anti-Semitic Stormfront website has a thread entitled Defending The EDL; pro-BNP forum VNNuk has one on the banning of the EDL march; and Batty Lee Barnes, humiliatingly expelled from the BNP, has been offering guidance for the EDL on his blog. If that isn’t damning enough, BNP Info report that:
“EDL leaders Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and Chris Renton (aka John Sheridan) are BNP, Jeff Marsh (aka Joe Casuals) … says he supports voting BNP, Paul Ray says he's NOT anti-BNP but he was shunned by EDL leaders for opposing Renton linking with Nazis, Joel Titus says he opposes the BNP but accepted BNP activists as friends on You Tube, and EDL poster-boy Guramit Singh is a proven racist. Other movers and shakers in the original EDL include NF activist David Tull and BNP activist David Cooling.”
Incidentally, Paul Ray has recently been arrested for stirring up racial hatred on the internet. Jings!
It is abundantly clear that there are many active racists in the EDL and it is embarrassing for the leadership to continue denying this. It means they are either lying or genuinely have no idea who their followers are. There is simply too much evidence on web forums and too many incriminating photographs - like the recent ones of the Welsh supporters of the EDL Sieg Heiling and showing swastika tattoos - for their denials to be convincing. The EDL’s own forum contains diverse right wing opinion: some posts have spoken against the violence and Sieg Heiling, especially after Stoke, but others are openly violent and more threatening.
Many EDL members share the same politics as the more hardcore fascists but reject the Hitler stuff as irrelevant and all the Zionist conspiracy theory as either stupid or too confusing. However, racist sentiments are common throughout the majority of the EDL and the anti-Islamic sentiment is a cover for their ‘anti-Paki’ politics like anti-Israel sentiment is used to disguise anti-Semitism. For most EDL all brown skinned people are ‘Pakis’ and all ‘Pakis’ are Muslims and all Muslims are extremists. Perhaps the EDL needs to say ‘Not Racist, Just Selectively Racist.’
Fascists
The EDL use exactly the same strategy that Moseley’s British Union of Fascists used and which the later NF and BNP tried to emulate. The BUF focussed solely on a minority group, the Jews, so do the EDL; the BUF used scaremongering against the Jews, the EDL use them against Muslims, i.e., Muslim paedophile gangs and drug dealers stories; the BUF used violence and intimidating tactics against local communities, so do the EDL; and the BUF tried to break up opposition meetings, so do the EDL. The BUF understood that media manipulation and good PR is essential to ‘legitimise’ themselves and so do the EDL. The fact that the EDL use fascist tactics and have fascist members all point to an inevitable ‘if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck’ conclusion. The one key difference between the BUF and the EDL is a single leadership figure. The EDL leadership clique use pseudonyms and shun the vanity posturings of Moseley. Given the amount of animosity towards them from many corners, this is hardly surprising. Moseley himself described street politics as ‘this rough game.’
Bradford
The EDL are pushing the Bradford demo this weekend after falling turnouts on recent daytrips. They have been banned from marching but will stage a static protest. They will be bussed in by the cops, allowed to shout, be hopefully contained, and then bussed back again. The EDL have been trumpeting this do for a long time knowing they will face considerable opposition. The Hope Not Hate campaign has urged folks to stay away; UAF have organised a static counter-demo; more militant anti-fascists are preparing for it; and Asian youth and local community groups will no doubt make their voices heard. Which is the point. Previous EDL demos in Stoke, Dudley, and Bolton have created much tension and they are helping to inflame anti-Islamic sentiment. The dream situation would be to recreate the race riots like in Oldham in 2001 to prove that they are a potent political force to be reckoned with rather than a confused bunch of drunken racists and fantasy Nazis. The EDL are deliberately provocative and go into areas where they will try to attain maximum disruption, plenty of media coverage for their vanity scrapbooks and a good day was had by all. The static demo strategy has proved fruitful: marches are boring anyway and if they can just gather at Wetherspoon’s so much the better. At least they have toilets so the EDL do not have to urinate on national monuments.
The leadership has sent out an email asking everyone to play nicely, not fight or get drunk and obey the law. This is merely window-dressing and the idea of the EDL turning up with rosaries and herbal tea is far fetched. Plod is enforcing an alcohol ban in the city and on trains but the EDL will be plotting up in 2 pubs on the periphery of Bradford beforehand for the requisite barrel and blether session. They will then be bussed in with predictable results, no doubt.
Politics
That the EDL have popular support amongst football firms and Nazi grupuscules is clear but whether they can break out of such a political ghetto is uncertain. In case you haven’t noticed, the BNP have been busy imploding in a riot of acrimony over power abuse, cash and corruption (see Malatesta’s Blog) and many on the racist right are looking for an alternative. UKIP are far too posh and tweedy for most working class voters; BNP is finished; the NF too small and compromised by the state; and other Nazi factions subject to arrest over internet behaviour. That there is money and support behind the EDL is not in doubt but whether they can take it one step further and fill the power vacuum on the far right, attain the stamina for serious political campaigning and control their more idiotic impulses, we shall have to wait and see. See you on Saturday!
‘Malatesta’
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The English Defence League are very good at creating disinformation but not very good at being convincing. The smokescreen phrases like ‘multi-racial’, ‘non-racist’ and ‘unity’ are completely undermined by a quick look at UK racist web forums which support them. First of all, the anti-Semitic Stormfront website has a thread entitled Defending The EDL; pro-BNP forum VNNuk has one on the banning of the EDL march; and Batty Lee Barnes, humiliatingly expelled from the BNP, has been offering guidance for the EDL on his blog. If that isn’t damning enough, BNP Info report that:
“EDL leaders Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and Chris Renton (aka John Sheridan) are BNP, Jeff Marsh (aka Joe Casuals) … says he supports voting BNP, Paul Ray says he's NOT anti-BNP but he was shunned by EDL leaders for opposing Renton linking with Nazis, Joel Titus says he opposes the BNP but accepted BNP activists as friends on You Tube, and EDL poster-boy Guramit Singh is a proven racist. Other movers and shakers in the original EDL include NF activist David Tull and BNP activist David Cooling.”
Incidentally, Paul Ray has recently been arrested for stirring up racial hatred on the internet. Jings!
It is abundantly clear that there are many active racists in the EDL and it is embarrassing for the leadership to continue denying this. It means they are either lying or genuinely have no idea who their followers are. There is simply too much evidence on web forums and too many incriminating photographs - like the recent ones of the Welsh supporters of the EDL Sieg Heiling and showing swastika tattoos - for their denials to be convincing. The EDL’s own forum contains diverse right wing opinion: some posts have spoken against the violence and Sieg Heiling, especially after Stoke, but others are openly violent and more threatening.
Many EDL members share the same politics as the more hardcore fascists but reject the Hitler stuff as irrelevant and all the Zionist conspiracy theory as either stupid or too confusing. However, racist sentiments are common throughout the majority of the EDL and the anti-Islamic sentiment is a cover for their ‘anti-Paki’ politics like anti-Israel sentiment is used to disguise anti-Semitism. For most EDL all brown skinned people are ‘Pakis’ and all ‘Pakis’ are Muslims and all Muslims are extremists. Perhaps the EDL needs to say ‘Not Racist, Just Selectively Racist.’
Fascists
The EDL use exactly the same strategy that Moseley’s British Union of Fascists used and which the later NF and BNP tried to emulate. The BUF focussed solely on a minority group, the Jews, so do the EDL; the BUF used scaremongering against the Jews, the EDL use them against Muslims, i.e., Muslim paedophile gangs and drug dealers stories; the BUF used violence and intimidating tactics against local communities, so do the EDL; and the BUF tried to break up opposition meetings, so do the EDL. The BUF understood that media manipulation and good PR is essential to ‘legitimise’ themselves and so do the EDL. The fact that the EDL use fascist tactics and have fascist members all point to an inevitable ‘if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck’ conclusion. The one key difference between the BUF and the EDL is a single leadership figure. The EDL leadership clique use pseudonyms and shun the vanity posturings of Moseley. Given the amount of animosity towards them from many corners, this is hardly surprising. Moseley himself described street politics as ‘this rough game.’
Bradford
The EDL are pushing the Bradford demo this weekend after falling turnouts on recent daytrips. They have been banned from marching but will stage a static protest. They will be bussed in by the cops, allowed to shout, be hopefully contained, and then bussed back again. The EDL have been trumpeting this do for a long time knowing they will face considerable opposition. The Hope Not Hate campaign has urged folks to stay away; UAF have organised a static counter-demo; more militant anti-fascists are preparing for it; and Asian youth and local community groups will no doubt make their voices heard. Which is the point. Previous EDL demos in Stoke, Dudley, and Bolton have created much tension and they are helping to inflame anti-Islamic sentiment. The dream situation would be to recreate the race riots like in Oldham in 2001 to prove that they are a potent political force to be reckoned with rather than a confused bunch of drunken racists and fantasy Nazis. The EDL are deliberately provocative and go into areas where they will try to attain maximum disruption, plenty of media coverage for their vanity scrapbooks and a good day was had by all. The static demo strategy has proved fruitful: marches are boring anyway and if they can just gather at Wetherspoon’s so much the better. At least they have toilets so the EDL do not have to urinate on national monuments.
The leadership has sent out an email asking everyone to play nicely, not fight or get drunk and obey the law. This is merely window-dressing and the idea of the EDL turning up with rosaries and herbal tea is far fetched. Plod is enforcing an alcohol ban in the city and on trains but the EDL will be plotting up in 2 pubs on the periphery of Bradford beforehand for the requisite barrel and blether session. They will then be bussed in with predictable results, no doubt.
Politics
That the EDL have popular support amongst football firms and Nazi grupuscules is clear but whether they can break out of such a political ghetto is uncertain. In case you haven’t noticed, the BNP have been busy imploding in a riot of acrimony over power abuse, cash and corruption (see Malatesta’s Blog) and many on the racist right are looking for an alternative. UKIP are far too posh and tweedy for most working class voters; BNP is finished; the NF too small and compromised by the state; and other Nazi factions subject to arrest over internet behaviour. That there is money and support behind the EDL is not in doubt but whether they can take it one step further and fill the power vacuum on the far right, attain the stamina for serious political campaigning and control their more idiotic impulses, we shall have to wait and see. See you on Saturday!
‘Malatesta’
NB: Copyright free. Pass it on to anyone who may find it useful.
All the Malatesta Articles are available here:
http://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2010/08/
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THE DEMO SHOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED !
26.08.2010 13:03
WEYMAN BENNETT
we will be supporting the muslims
26.08.2010 14:27
whitechapel anarchists
Even though at Whitechapel...
26.08.2010 15:08
If more of us get "enriched" at Bradford so be it! As long as the innocent Muslims don't feel unloved.
UKAntifa
@ Whitechapel Anarchists
26.08.2010 17:42
anon
EDL Leader Stabbed Manchester United Fans
26.08.2010 17:42
EDL Openly Display Guns and Knives
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjFU47Ia7rs
EDL Leader Stabbed Manchester United Fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enigQgv0gJ8
Mountain Spring
EDL supporting BNP, KKK and Combat 18
26.08.2010 17:46
- video/quicktime 9.5M
Mountain Spring
EDL True Colours
26.08.2010 18:05
Hexy
i am going to the demo
26.08.2010 18:50
neil lees
EDL Knives and Guns video - help yourselves
26.08.2010 18:54
- video/quicktime 7.2M
NB: there's some overlap in content with the other video, but the knives and guns footage is unique to this video
Distributor
Jeff Marsh - go back to jail
26.08.2010 19:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StCMM4_UmYk
Timothy
good luck to the uaf
26.08.2010 19:10
dennis nielson(moksheim)
UAF stand strong
26.08.2010 21:13
The EDL are scum and racist, we need to remember Cable Street, to stand strong with our Muslim brothers.
Everyone, please make it to Bradford on Saturday, where we will oppose the EDL.
Free Palestine, stop the oppression from Israel and the fascist US.
Martin Smith
EDL and BNP supporters sexually abused children...
26.08.2010 22:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vO01iqukno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGf36Z3qHc
EDL Blackpool protestor shouts "Fuck the NIggers"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JE5xKQkhs8
Delegation
Jeff Marsh - Snitching For Police Leniancy
27.08.2010 08:15
Oh, "Dennis Nielsen" is actually spelt Dennis Nilsen, but intelligence is hardly a by-word of the EDL, apart from criminal intelligence that is, as poor Mister Marsh has committed enough offences to get him banged up for a long time if he refused to shop his fellow football hooligans to the authorities in that Sheffield police station long with Yaxley-Lennon.
One of these days the ordinary hooligans will realise that you and the rest of the EDL leadership have sold them down the river.
EDL Comrade Snitching Network
Beware EDL Snoops with cameras in Bradford
27.08.2010 08:33
Anybody know his name?
He's already on his way to Bradford. Recognise him and point him out to UAF stewards and the police, when he infiltrates the UAF protest in Bradford this Saturday.
Inspector Snoopington
Thanks
27.08.2010 09:52
Mountain Spring
Jeff Marsh Is A Changed Man
28.08.2010 04:53
Anti racists should please take note, Poor Jeffrey is a changed man, and would no longer like to be thought of as the social pariah who has rallied football hooligans to violently assault people with darker skins for kicks. Neither does he want to murder socialists or anarchists, or people who don't like racialists. In-fact, he now claims to be a champion of the working classes, despite raking lots of money in from EDL merchandising and the sale of his Cardiff Soul Crew memoirs (Cardiff Soul Crew - think soul music made by coloured people - if this isn't proof that Jeffrey is no-longer racist, you anti-fascists are heartless monsters).
In-fact, after visiting prison, Jeffrey has also gone easy on his rampant homophobia. Since being banged up with twenty-stone, well-oiled fellow prisoners, with a penchant for baby oil massages, he tries to not label gay people as being "poofs" and "lessies". He actively supports Trevor Kelway's EDL Gay And Lesbo Division, as they operate safely out of sight behind closed doors, and never dare walk through Wetherspoons.
Life was hard in prison for Poor Jeffrey, and he grew up fast when he was repeatedly jailed for mutilating rival football fans with sharp knives for fun. His mind was sick, like all mental sufferers, and due to Jeffrey being male (gender-wise), he has had a phobia of doctors which has stopped him from being sectioned by trick cyclists, and he was repeatedly spanked by his father for telling too many lies, and multiple-personality disorder, which is why the poor lad has been trolling on Indymedia under the names of "Gerry Gable", "Martin Smith", "Whitechapel Anarchists" and "Anarchist Antifa".
Jeffrey Marsh wasn't just doing this to divide and conquer the anti-fascist opposition. He does honestly think he is more than one person, and libellously adopting fake personalities, Martin Smith for instance (posting pro-violence comments so he gets arrested), is his active therapy, now that the quacks no-longer carry out the full-frontal lobotomy that the sick lad needs.
Ritalin hadn't been invented when sad, attention-seeking Jeffrey hung out with the wrong sort of boys. He only got involved in the serious football hooligan scene because he wasn't able to get a girlfriend, thus, like any lonely boy, he needed to earn friends, which he did by beating up strangers senselessly for wearing the wrong football coulours, inflicting fear in the hearts of innocent families hoping to watch a safe and friendly game of footie.
Jeffrey only famously viciously stabbed the Manchester United fan like a raving madman, not for fun (apart from harmless kicks), because voices in his head told him to "fight the devil" to make peace with God. So, being the changed man he is, he slashed a "Red Devil" like a beetroot, hoping he would breathe his last, and his reward for "fighting the good fight" would be a free season ticket to heaven, as well as increased book, video and download sales.
Jeffrey Marsh doesn't hate all Muslims. Well, maybe he loathes the ordinary ones who just try to go about their ordinary everyday lives and are clobbered by drunken gangs of EDL racists, but actually, in a perverse way, he admires the spunk of Islamic Religious Extremist minority, such as suicide bombers in War-Torn Afganistan, who talk about being rewarded by marrying virgins in the next life. Don't let him know I said this, but my dear little Jeffrey...., well how do I say this without making him feel like "one of those", isn't entirely comfortable at the thought of finally losing his virginity.
The EDL do now have a Ladies Division, he tells me, but they are not ladies, and neither are they liberated or non of that nonsense. Like their idol the Charley's Angels, like proper little housewives, they are ordered what to do by men, and know their station. The lads of the EDL told them not to travel to Bradford's railway stations, and like good girls not the Carling-infused "cheap slags" the communists like to view them as, they do what they are told. Women, coloured people, self-loathing Sikh Poster Boys, they are all salad dressing for the "meat and two veg" of the ordinary white working class male that Jeffrey now swears to give a shit about.
Violent brutal football casualism is his only religion, but Jeffrey isn't as thick as he often appears. He tells me he has heard of Buddhism and Ying & Yang (sounds foreign, Asian-even, so much for being a racialist). Since going berserk with the knife on that Man United fan, Poor Jeffrey Marsh has had daily nightmares since commiting his senseless crime that God will allow rival football thugs to get even with him, in a fatal way, waking up in a deep sweat about being chased down the street by cannabalistic Combat18-loving Chelsea Headhunters.
He decided not to travel to Bradford, not so his comrades would walk into the dangerous scenarios he himself has brewed-up via his peacemaking, unifying Casuals United website, as Poor Jeffrey isn't a gay coward. Jeffrey took the very difficult decision to lead the casuals from behind the safety of his keyboard, to show his patriotic support for the British Institutions of Law And Order (as he did, grassing-up casuals with bosum-buddy Tommy in Sheffield).
Poor Jeffrey does not wish to give more pleasure to Her Majesty, (figuratively speaking), so he is going to be a good boy from now on.
Jeff Marsh indeed is a changed man!
Jeffrey's Long Suffering Mummy
EDL bank account linked to Labour Party
28.08.2010 08:44
Arthur
Twenty seven young girls raped is 'racist propaganda'?
24.11.2010 23:12
'Asian gang raped girls as young as 12 after picking them up on the streets for sex'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332746/Asian-gang-raped-girls-young-12-picking-streets-sex.html#ixzz16FCBCTiL
TWENTY SEVEN victims identified. TWENTY SEVEN young, vulnerable, white girls raped.
How many could have been saved had concerns been taken seriously without people such as you telling everyone it was 'propaganda' perpetuated by 'racists'?
What you forget in your naive, blinded 'Rik the Student' reactionary Left wing defence of any minority, is that REAL victims of Muslim- dominated pedophile and drug gangs have their lives ruined, and your denial makes it harder to investigate, and backfires in the law- abiding Muslim majority.
Twenty seven young girls raped. Think about that.
DanOxford
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