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Stop the EDL in Dudley 17th July 2010.

anon | 10.07.2010 19:11 | Anti-racism | Repression | Social Struggles | South Coast | World

The English Defence League are an Islamophobic organisation who plan to march in Dudley on July 17th. They are marching against plans for a "supermosque" despite the plans for the Mosque being scrapped [nothing to do with the EDL by the way..]. The EDL say that they are against extremism but their words and actions show that they are against all Muslims. The EDL have Nazis in their ranks.

The EDL have so far rioted in Dudley amongst themselves and placed a pigs head on the walls of a Mosque. The EDL chant things like "Allah, Allah, who the f**k is Allah", "Allah is a peado", "Burn Down the Mosque" and other offensive dribble.

Men and women from Blood and Honour, Combat 18, National Front and BNP are all linked to the EDL.

The EDL are exploiting anyone and anything that they can use to attack Muslims and have formed a "Hindu Defence League" with Islamophobic Hindus. They have formed the English Defence League Jewish division with Zionsists [their financial backers].

The EDL rip off their supporters with coach seats at £20 a go for demos, expensive merchandise with expensive postage etc.

The last time the EDL went ot Dudley in a large number they tore down their own fences, trampled them, threw things at each other, threw things at reporters, accused locals who were watching of being "UAF scum" and told them to "f**k off" etc and rioted in a car park for no apparent reason.

The latest EDL ploy is to recruit Muslims into the EDL so that "people can't critcise the EDL".

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The EDL are an organisation full of racists. Dismantle the EDL!

anon

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nazis in the photo ?

10.07.2010 19:24

are they supposed to be nazis in the photo ? look like a group of people on a party do, is this website serious ?

mick jones
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at least people are having fun

10.07.2010 19:38

title says it all, at least these youngsters are having fun, luckily they have not been brainwashed by your horrible miserable communist politics

anarcho punk
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YOU CAN'T STOP US

10.07.2010 20:16

I see you don't descibe us a racists anymore, you can't anyway as our youth leader is of mixed race and one of our leaders is black.

EDL ALL THE WAY, YOU CAN'T STOP US

Neptune

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liberal fascism

10.07.2010 23:27

They did....
> "The EDL are an organisation full of racists. Dismantle the EDL!"

My view is that you can't force people to think what you want them to think without being fascist
Stop EDL and Dismantle EDL is forcing people..... which is fascist.
In the long run, you may be able to stop EDL but you cant stop people thinking in the way they do even if you use violence and intimidation


necky

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That photo

11.07.2010 00:26

I'm having difficulty spotting any nazis....

The guy on the left doesn't look like an nazi.
Neither does the guy on the right.
The two girls look like from mixed race background
The guy 2nd from right is has got his arm around one of the girls
The guy in the middle is bald.

Is that your central argument? That all bald, white men are Nazis?
Bit racist isn't it? Judging people on their skin colour and lack of hair?

ed

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Ridiculous!

11.07.2010 08:50

Have you actually done any research at all on this article? A quick look on any NF, WN or BNP forum will show they are all very much anti EDL!!! You are quick brand people Nazi's yet you fail to look into even those most obvious of channels. Actually use your search engine for something other than porn and have a look on a combat 18 or blood and honour forum none of them are 'in bed with us' so to speak, because of the simple fact we have black and asain members and a LGBT Division. The are also not very keen on the fact, and i quote we are 'servants of the jew' apparently. I don't know what private school you studied nazism and fascism at but I would suggest you ring 'mama and papa' sharpish and get a refund 'comrade'.

Gilby

EDL Protestors Definitely Nazis video

11.07.2010 10:52

Has Gilby done any research at all to justify his comment. A quick look at You Tube will reveal tons of evidence that many EDL activists are definitely hard-line Nazis, and that Combat 18 are most definitely (albeit informally) "in bed" with the EDL...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-YRwri8S6E

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HrS8Fmx2ho

Yes it's true some Fascists hate the EDL, but Fascists hate rival Fascists almost as much as they hate everyone else. Just look at the red EDL t-shirt in this photo...

 http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/07/455279.html

Bobsleigh

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Good for you

11.07.2010 11:36

You managed to summon up the same video twice and a picture that is constantly used as to 'prove beyond reasonable doubt' we have nazi links.

 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4LkF_mg8voI/S7SRQJgB1jI/AAAAAAAAA14/M-Pw5KrF8yA/s1600/UAF+nazi+salute.jpg

The UAF are clearly a nazi front to?

 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kIjrfODffSA/SdzIbGNiHFI/AAAAAAAAAlE/QX0Ozh4jADg/s400/Hamas_Nazi_Salute.JPG

As are all muslim extremists


........ and

 http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/nazi-gnomes.jpg

ALL GARDEN GNOMES :o

Gilby

Nazis in the EDL

11.07.2010 12:58

Well spotted Gilby but unfortunately you failed to mention the EDL Nazis who were shown giving Nazi salutes and showing their Combat 18 tattoos shown in that video

Here are some more...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyQrxeAvyLM

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB-1BF0ZOEY

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktjgruyxrhk

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9cOZ238-hk

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txL_8VdqabM

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIoX0wpt7dU

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3ODgcICHtk

I agree Muslim extremists are just as bad

Bobsleigh

PLease allow only clear articles or from reputable organisations up on fascism

11.07.2010 13:20

its not a game. "Anarcho punk? ",your acting like a elitist nazi punk sympathiser. Despite EDL leaders claims, many of them are still clearly or underhandedly linked to the BNP who of course a well known respectable antifascist political party:)

PS dimwits obviously the pic above, is of antifascists, thats why these articles have to be clear, some EDL smpathisers arent well known for their analysis of articles, to put it nicely:)

Green Syn

@green syn

11.07.2010 14:26

are you on about the photo in the article? their not antifascists, the mixed race lad with the scarf is joel titmuss (or however you spell it) and the rest are “Cheerleaders Against Islamic Extremism”. some sort of face book trolling group.

anon

The photo above is of English Defence League ppl including Joel Titus

11.07.2010 17:03

The point of putting this photo [there have been other photos on here of EDL giving Nazi salutes, of Wayne EDL Baldwin in his flat with a swastika on the wall next to his EDL shirts], is to show that the EDL is a mixed up organisation that is based around Islamophobia.
The EDL have an Islamophobic associative group the Hindu Defence League, English Defence League Jewish Division among others.
The EDL are now trying to recruit Muslims into the EDL.
Joel Titus said that he would leave the EDL if there was ever proof of Nazis in the EDL. It has been proved that there are Nazis in the EDL. Joel is still in the EDL regardless.
Charlie Flowers regularly goes to Mosques and Islamic events. There are many Muslims who might feel uncomfortable with him doing this when he is clearly associated with the EDL. He attends EDL meetings. Having said that he has tried to arrange sit downs between Muslims and the EDL and therefore could be genuinely trying to work as a peacemaker.
The Dudley demo is on the 17th. People are getting to Dudley town centre at around 11am.

With regard to "only letting known or reputable anti fascist groups write on here" that can result in censorship, heirarchy etc.
From now on too there is a group called the Muslim Defence League and their supporters who might from time to time write on here. The MDL is a new group and has been formed in defence against the English Defence League. The MDL is not run by Antifa, anarchists or the UAF etc. It is run by Muslims and non Muslims who are friends of Muslims from the Muslim Defence League.

anon

EDL Kevin Smith with pigs head in Dudley

11.07.2010 18:09


Kevin Smith was prosecuted for putting the pigs head on a Mosque.

anon

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bacon

11.07.2010 19:41

I have it on very good authority that a mosque built (will remain nameless) by my friend's crew had lots of rashers of bacon placed between the brickwork and the inner wall! have to laugh

alicanti

Dear Alicanti

11.07.2010 20:16

You are good advert for making sure that the next Mosque built in this country is built by a Muslim building firm. Same goes for any repair work. We can refer to this when EDL tossers start claiming that "the muzzies are taking our jobs". Tosser.

anon

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11.07.2010 21:50

So, you've managed to factor in racists, anti-racists, the International Jewish Conspiracy, C18, BNP, EDL, MFI...
You lot really are flailing around now aren't you. Look at the photo.
Then look at it again.
Then leave the Sixth Form, grow up, and get back to me at the above address.

Charlie Flowers
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can't do that

12.07.2010 00:00

> You are good advert for making sure that the next Mosque built in this country is built by a Muslim building firm.

That would be discrimination which is illegal in this country. You can't discriminate against employees based on their race, colour or religious beliefs.

alicanti

No link to UK zionists and definitely not financially backing the EDL!

12.07.2010 11:41

"They have formed the English Defence League Jewish division with Zionsists [their financial backers]. "

They formed the English Defence League Jewish division without the support of mainstream zionisms, who rejected the Islamophobic EDL. UK zionist groups do not provide any financial support for EDL.

EDL have formed several personal links with the proscribed terrorist organisation the Kahanist JDL - which is a hardline religious zionist org. considered to be 'terrorist' in both Israel and USA.

They have also approached the JTF, which is a Kahanist sympathetic, JDL run group, but also has non-Jews (mainly the American Christian Right) as 'members'.

Both these groups support a one-state over all of Israel and Palestine, in opposition to mainstream zionist groups like the Zionist Congress. Zionist Congress support a two-state solution and passed a motion to pressurise the Israeli government to move quickly to establishing the negotiations necessary to form the Palestinian state and to halt any further settlement expansions or new outposts asap.

These two groups who the EDL have linked themselves to are closely linked to support for settlers in the occupied territories, which mainstream zionist groups. Some Jewish groups have described them as the 'Jewish Taliban' because they are basically little difference in the way they treat women with less rights than men (hafrada - segregation between men and women).

Please see  http://www.edl-jewish-division.blogspot.com - [not] english defence league jewish division for more details.

Shema Israel
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Education is free in your country

12.07.2010 19:04

This article was brought to my attention by a friend of mine. I would like to clarify that I have nothing to do with the EDL, I have not been to a single demonstration, neither do I support them, I do not feel the need to justify myself to ignorant people such as the author of this article who are quick to pass judgements, have no respect for the privacy of people's lives and would publicly bark out such vile and inappropriate comments about people who they know nothing about. I am a Hafiz-e-Qur'an which means that I have the entire Qur'an memorized, extreme much? I am currently not in the country, and do not appreciate having to deal with this nonsense so many miles away.

This article and the picture posted, without the consent of the people in the picture amounts to defamation, in case you are not clear as to what that means; ( Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an INDIVIDUAL, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).

In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement or report, while libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism. Related to defamation is public disclosure of private facts, which arises where one person reveals information that is not of public concern, and the release of which would offend a reasonable person.

Having said that, I would advise you to take this article down instantaneously as it may have far-reaching consequences. Please think ten times over before pointing fingers at another person as there are 3 pointing back at you.

Naima Nasir

Proof is often required before stupid un-informed comments are made...

12.07.2010 20:45

I was shown this page by Naima, and I have to be honest, the comments under the picture are incredibly laughable.

I have no affiliation with the EDL. I simply had a short lived fling with Darren Marsh. I am NOT his girlfriend, and I go against everything the EDL stand for. Whoever thinks they are well informed enough to use my family name should really ought to do a bit more digging. They will in turn find out that my family are Muslim and I'm a practicing Pagan. The EDL are a bunch of un-informed footie hooligans as far as I'm concerned.

The REALLY funny thing is, that Luke Delany is a classmate of mine from Westminster. He's not English, he's Irish. He's a tame English Lit and Creative writing student and knows about as much as the EDL as George Bush knows how to use correct grammar.

I actually like this website because it usually has some decent articles published. However this entire page is a complete farce and extremely sneaky for "anon" to post up lies about Naima Nasir, Luke Delany and myself. I cannot and will not speak for the actions of Charlie Flowers, Darren Marsh or Joel Titus.

But the least you could do is at least ask the people you write about before posting their names online.

I actively encourage anyone to send me a message via my facebook page and I will quite hapily set these silly ideas straight. Me... EDL??? LMAO.

Tasneem Moonchild is my name on facebook.
Look forward to hearing from anyone who seeks the truth :)
Blessed Be )O(

Tasneem Ghanchi
mail e-mail: tamtam786@hotmail.com

this site

12.07.2010 21:07

"Having said that, I would advise you to take this article down instantaneously as it may have far-reaching consequences"

lol! i doubt it. Best contact your legal people and get things moving.

seriously, this site is shit.
anything on it is usually a load of bollox and this has once again been proven to be the case.
i don't think anyone takes things on here seriously, i only read this site for mild amusement.

helio

facebook

13.07.2010 15:43

Both Naima and Tasneem have Joel Titus as a friend LOL

anon

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This article

13.07.2010 16:54

Is full of errors, as people have pointed out.

Goose

Errors?

13.07.2010 19:37

Fuck off EDL. Take your nazi mates as well.

anon

Pressing charges....aggravated trespass, harassment, assualt at an SWP meeting

13.07.2010 20:54

The EDL went on a mission one night earlier in the year. They decided to invade a Socialist Worker Party meeting. One of the men was Joel Titus. One of the women was an Asian [Muslim] woman who had gone with Joel, as his girlfriend.
According to comments made on an EDL facebook site about the night one of the SWP men "walked into Joel's fist".
The EDL have said of what happened "Imagine the looks on their faces when Joel, his Asian girlfriend [a Muslim] and some hoolies went in there. One of them walked into Joel's fist".

The building where this happened has CCTV both inside and outside. There were SWP people there who were subjected to aggravated trespass, harassment, alarm, distress and assault.

So Naima when you return from your hols in Pakistan and Dubai you might want to think about that night.

anon

Talk to me?

13.07.2010 22:34

I would love to see footage? And please do tell me who you are, I have no problems confronting you and answering any questions you may have, it is not correct to be making these false accusations in public. I have never even heard of the party you talk of. And I feel extremely unsafe about the fact that you are a stalker and know precisely where I am on holiday, not right either.

Naima Nasir

SWP don't like being stalked either.

14.07.2010 13:26

The EDL are constantly invading meetings ie Indymedia, SWP, UAF. That's stalking and harassment.

anon

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