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MDL Muslim Defence League facebook hacked by EDL but is now back to normal.

anon | 29.06.2010 23:46 | Anti-racism | Repression | Social Struggles | World

The MDL Muslim Defence League was formed to fight back against the Islamaphobia of the English Defence League, Welsh Defence League and Scottish Defence League. The MDL has support of Muslims and non Muslims. The MDL is against extremists ie Anjem Choudhary & are fighting against the EDL who claim to be against extremism but whose actions suggest they are against all Muslims.



The MDL have said that they want to debate with strong articulate arguments in defence of Islam and have said that the tongue is sharper and stronger than any double edged sword.
The Muslim Defence League have said that while they are not labelling all EDL members as being racist, the MDL recognises that many EDL are racist.

There are MDL divisions being formed and there are Muslim Defence League divisions in London, Greater Manchester and Dudley.

A couple of nights ago an EDL member made a fake facebook profile and was made an admin on one the MDL facebook group pages. This resulted in the EDL taking over the group's facebook group page and many people were sent disgusting messages. Lots of members were deleted. It was eventually sorted out when the groups facebook creator went online and found out what had happened.

While it may have been naive of the MDL facebook admins to let someone become an admin without checking who they were it is only a small mistake and the MDL have moved on from this and the facebook page is back up and running.

While some might say "so what", the reason for this posting is that we want you to know that thwe MDL is a genuine group and that the MDL had no part in or knowledge of sending disgusting messages to thousands of people. The disgusting messages were sent by the EDL.

I am a MDL supporter. The MDL will be attending protests alongside the UAF against the EDL across the country. The MDL are not looking for violence. The MDL has been formed to defend Muslims from the EDL.

Support the MDL!

anon

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'ello

30.06.2010 00:45

Great stuff!,

One word of advice, stay well clear of UAF. They will use you as their 'muscle', and won't give a shit about how many of you get sent down as a result.

If you don't regret standing shoulder to shoulder with them now, you soon will do. If you go to those daft demos you will be penned in by the cops and everyone of you will be under the watchful eye of the state from then on.

It's up to you, but think how you can avoid this.

No one should end up in prison on the back of opposing some beer-swilling lager louts.

Good stuff though, it's massively empowering to see Muslims defending themselves and taking the initiative...

All power to you!!



J


Thank you

30.06.2010 02:49

MDL are not UAF.

anon


fair play but wrong way

30.06.2010 04:19

fair play mate, I hear what you're saying but you're just adding fuel to the fire. If you're angry and want to organise then why not go down the antifa route and add numbers to an established group rather than make this something about religion?

anarchist


To anarchist

30.06.2010 08:34

You sound very patronising. For Muslims who are being attacked by the EDL on the grounds of being Muslims, this is about religion. People who have joined the MDL want to join the MDL, not Antifa or an anarchist group.

anon


Links?

30.06.2010 10:46

How about some links to the MDL websites?

from the article:
"the reason for this posting is that we want you to know that the MDL is a genuine group"

Anyone can post an anonymous message to Indymedia, so we still don't know this is a genuine group. How do we know the MDL hasn't just been set up by EDL people to gather personal details of their opponents?

anon


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Just as racist as the EDL

30.06.2010 22:36

I've checked these out and they're no better than the EDL. A facebook page full of racist messages, anti-semetism, homophobic comments and members who, after a bit of digging are shown to be supporters of hate preachers and terrorists.

Southerner


Facebook link

01.07.2010 09:24

I think this is the main MDL Facebook link:
 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=369931931134

Do they have a main website too?

And @Southerner: I have a quick look and didn't see racism, antisemitism, homophobia, etc. Maybe the comments have been deleted. I think with Facebook anyone can join so it wouldn't be surprising if trolls post comments just to shit stir.

anon


The MDL are not extremsists or terrorists. Far from it.....

02.07.2010 00:07

The Muslim Defence League facebook does not contain racist or extremist content. All political facebook groups get trolls and the MDL will remove any troll posts put on the MDL facebook from EDL types etc. The MDL does not support hate, extremism or terrorism. I don't see why the anarchists seem to think that they have a right to tell Muslims that that it's "better to add to existing groups such as antifa rather than form the MDL" etc and I think that anyone who can ask "...why turn this into something about religion?" is utterly ignorant. Anarchists are mostly against religion in any case. The EDL hate campaign IS about religion. The MDL does not need "permisssion" from anarchists.

anon


to anon, just trying to understand

04.07.2010 00:59

I wasn't telling you to do anything. I was simply asking why because I didn't understand. Antifa aren't an anarchist group they are an anti-nationalist, anti-fascist group. I'm sorry if you found it patronising, it wasn't meant to be so. I wasn't attacking religion or your right to believe what you want to I was just putting forward the thought that maybe to organise around your religion would play into the EDLs hands. As you say I am not religious so I don't really understand how this affects you personally, as such I was just asking in order to learn and understand. Peace

anarchist


A principled position

04.11.2010 12:23

While I imagine it must be an empowering experience for Muslims to organise and defend against those who target them based on their faith - and I do not say this patronisingly - those of us who identify as anarchist or, like myself, simply as people who organise autonomously, have to take a principled political position vis-a-vis the MDL. Anybody who chooses to organise in a non-hierarchical manner and who rejects repressive groups should not compromise their politics. It would a dangerous and opportunistic compromise, comparable to that made by the Respect/SWP trots during and after the StW movement who welcomed aboard any minority group - many of whose ideological tenets were fundamentally opposed to those of a true socialist. I find the start of the article "the MDL has the support of Muslims and non-Muslims alike" presumptuous and, indeed, patronising. This is exactly the kind of rhetorical trap that the EDL fall into - declaring some nebulous "community" or broadbrush support which is quite inaccurate. While we have no right no tell anybody how, or on what ideological basis, to organise, that does not mean that we should blindly show support to groups who are fighting our enemy. Do you think that everyone inside these religiously-identifying groups would be as welcoming to atheist (or at least laïque) leftists? No - because they are not naive, and nor should we be. I couldn't make it down to Leicester but a friend of mine said that one of his antifa comrades approached the MDL saying "alright mate, we are here on your side" and was told promptly to fuck off. Think before making any rash decisions of support.

Micky
mail e-mail: malenky@hotmail.co.uk


mdl

09.11.2010 12:46

I agree with the anarchists I don't like the sound of the mdl I would not support them in anyway!

Ed
mail e-mail: edwardtarr@ymail.com
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