New software of the pro-Israel lobby to scan IMCs
d | 07.06.2010 19:52
We know the Israeli government pays people to write comments on sites like indymedia. But how do they know an article critical of Israel appeared somewhere by someone?
Well, they use a programme that supplements mozila. Look here: http://www.giyus.org/
Well, they use a programme that supplements mozila. Look here: http://www.giyus.org/
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The Israeli Hasbara Ministry's Guide to instant internet-based atrocity denial
07.06.2010 21:20
Some readers out there may aspire to careers in foreign policy, and you may be called upon to perform these duties as part of your professional obligations. Moreover, all of us need to be able to spot the rhetorical ploys that governments use to justify their own misconduct. To help students prepare for future acts of diplomatic casuistry, and to raise public consciousness about these tactics, I offer as a public service this handy 21-step guide: "How to Defend the Indefensible and Get Away With It." The connection to recent events is obvious, but such practices are commonplace in many countries and widely practiced by non-state actors as well.
The Israeli Hasbara Ministry's 21-Step Guide to instant internet-based atrocity denial
1. We didn't do it! (Denials usually don't work, but it's worth a try).
1.a. Anyone that says we did, is an Anti-Semite
2. We know you think we did it but we aren't admitting anything.
2.a. Anyone that says we are, is an Anti-Semite
3. Actually, maybe we did do something but not what we are accused of doing.
3.a. Anyone that says we did what we are accused of doing , is an Anti-Semite
4. Ok, we did it but it wasn't that bad ("waterboarding isn't really torture, you know").
4.a. Anyone that says it was that bad, is an Anti-Semite
5. Well, maybe it was pretty bad but it was justified or necessary. (We only torture terrorists, or suspected terrorists, or people who might know a terrorist...")
5.a. Anyone that says that it wasn't necessary, is an Anti-Semite
6. What we did was really quite restrained, when you consider how powerful we really are. I mean, we could have done something even worse.
6.a. Anyone that says we were not restrained, is an Anti-Semite
7. Besides, what we did was technically legal under some interpretations of international law (or at least as our lawyers interpret the law as it applies to us.)
7.a. Anyone that says what we did was illegal, is an Anti-Semite
8. Don't forget: the other side is much worse. In fact, they're evil. Really.
8.a. Anyone that says they're not, is an Anti-Semite
9. Plus, they started it.
9.a. Anyone that says that they didn't, is an Anti-Semite
10. And remember: We are the good guys. We are not morally equivalent to the bad guys no matter what we did. Only morally obtuse, misguided critics could fail to see this fundamental distinction between Them and Us.
10.a. Anyone that says that we are NOT the good guys, is an Anti-Semite
11. The results may have been imperfect, but our intentions were noble. (Invading Iraq may have resulted in tens of thousands of dead and wounded and millions of refugees, but we meant well.)
11.a. Anyone that says our intentions were not 100% noble, is an Anti-Semite
12. We have to do things like this to maintain our credibility. You don't want to encourage those bad guys, do you?
12.a. Anyone that says otherwise, is an Anti-Semite
13. Especially because the only language the other side understands is force.
13.a. Anyone that disagrees, is an Anti-Semite
14. In fact, it was imperative to teach them a lesson. For the Nth time.
14a. Anyone that disagrees, is an Anti-Semite
15. If we hadn't done this to them they would undoubtedly have done something even worse to us. Well, maybe not. But who could take that chance?
15.a. Anyone that disagrees, is an Anti-Semite
16. In fact, no responsible government could have acted otherwise in the face of such provocation.
16.a. Anyone that disagrees, is an Anti-Semite
17. Plus, we had no choice. What we did may have been awful, but all other policy options had failed and/or nothing else would have worked.
17.a. Anyone that disagrees, is an Anti-Semite
18. It's a tough world out there and Serious People understand that sometimes you have to do these things. Only ignorant idealists, terrorist sympathizers, craven appeasers and/or treasonous liberals would question our actions.
18.a. Anyone that disagrees, is an Anti-Semite
19. In fact, whatever we did will be worth it eventually, and someday the rest of the world will thank us.
19.a. Anyone that disagrees, is an Anti-Semite
20. We are the victims of a double-standard. Other states do the same things (or worse) and nobody complains about them. What we did was therefore permissible.
20.a. Anyone that disagrees, is an Anti-Semite
21. And if you keep criticizing us, we'll get really upset and then we might do something really crazy. You don't want that, do you?
Repeat as necessary.
Oh My Lordy
Insulting
07.06.2010 22:00
By which I mean the implication that the "Zionists" are so mercenery they would not defend what they perceive to be their own interests unless somebody were paying them to do so. Look folks, I don't doubt for a minute that the Israelis would pay people to do this IF THEY HAD TO. But the reality is that they don't have to, that there are enough "Zionists" who will be reading stuff on Indymedia and responding on their own.
MDN
re: insulting
07.06.2010 23:25
I'm sure many Zionists do it for free as well, but certainly some get paid for doing it.
anon
Ambiguity
08.06.2010 11:05
1. We didn't fire rockets into Israel
1a. And anyone who says we did is a Zionist troll paid by Israel
2 We didn't use knives and iron bars
2a. And anyone who says we did is a Zionist troll paid by Israel
etc
Lordy Lordy
Funnily enough
08.06.2010 15:45
bokhim ve-yorim
It can be quite interesting ...
08.06.2010 23:20
ranges from people who write letters to the mainstream media to people who scream insults on, for example youtube and indymedia.
I think once you actually get the gist of it it can be quite interesting to play along.
I mean that these "people" are basically programed "mediabots" they don't think for themselves they are
given a certain criteria, which they repeat over and over.
On youtube videos you get a lot of rabid comments from people who sound like satanic football hooligans.
On other channels there are the mild mannered types who have suddenly seen the light and realized that Israel is the victim that has suffered so much... I wonder if they can really keep it up for much longer.
Or will living the lie sometime catch up with them and they'll all start flipping out and losing the plot.
Serf
I wish people would stop talking such crap about GIYUS
09.06.2010 21:39
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