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New York car bomb Incident: Another false flag?

Stephen Lendman | 08.05.2010 19:36 | Analysis | Anti-militarism | Repression | World

As long as imperial ambitions and rogue agencies like CIA and their foreign counterparts exist, false flag operations will be commonplace, the May 1 New York one the latest example, and maybe a forerunner of what's to come - another 9/11 some believe, far worse than the first one, perhaps involving a nuclear incident in a US city.

Then using it as a pretext for more war and to divert attention from America's deepening economic crisis, likely to erupt in protests because of Washington's indifference to millions affected.

a police officer approaches the car containing a bomb, Times Square, New York
a police officer approaches the car containing a bomb, Times Square, New York


On May 1, New York Times writers Al Baker and William Rashbaum headlined, "Police Find Car Bomb in Times Square," saying:

"A crude car bomb of propane, gasoline and fireworks was discovered in a 'smoking' Nissan Pathfinder in the heart of Times Square on Saturday evening, prompting the evacuation of thousands of tourists and theatergoers on a warm and busy night."

Mayor Michael Bloomberg claimed "We were very lucky. We avoided what could have been a very deadly event."

For much of the evening, Midtown New York, from 43rd - 48th streets, was closed, heightening fear reported for hours on cable news shows, including statements by Bloomberg, Governor David Paterson, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly and Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne, saying the bomb "appeared (to be) in the process of detonating, but it malfunctioned."

Good luck or something else? We've seen this too often not to be suspicious. This one, like others, has all the earmarks of a false flag, more likely given its coverage and location in Times Square on Saturday night, followed by a May 2 video saying the Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility.

Who could imagine they had a branch office in New York, and no one even noticed. At least that's the impression from media disinformation, hyped to spread fear and prepare the public for what's to come, perhaps something much worse.

In addition, like previous times, a suspect is already in custody, a Muslim, of course, as part of the anti-Islamic post-9/11 rage, and given how abusively he may be treated (including frightening threats of life in prison or the death penalty), perhaps will confess to anything or make it appear that he did so headlines can blare it.

According to Reuters, a statement on an Islamic web site ( http://www.muslm.net/vb/showthread.php?t=387309) said:

"The Pakistani Taliban announces its responsibility for the New York attack in revenge for the two leaders al-Baghdadi and al-Muhajir and Muslim martyrs."

Videos are easy to fake, including strategically timed bin Laden ones, exposed by digital experts as fakes, aside from convincing evidence he died in 2001.

See David Ray Griffin's important book titled, "Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive?" In his latest April 30 article, "Did Osama Bin Laden Confess to the 9/11 Attacks, and Did He Die in 2001," Griffin notes his book's convincing evidence of his death, that if so, proves all subsequent video and audio tapes attributed to him are fakes.

According to Hactor Factor's Neal Krawetz, bogus ones are characterized by low quality visual and audio splices and more. His analysis of a September 2007 video showed bin Laden's beard black when in earlier images it's gray. It also had him dressed in a white hat, shirt and yellow sweater, precisely the same attire as in October 2004. In addition, the background, lighting, desk and camera angle were the same.

Most obvious were the edits, showing obvious splices, at least six video ones and even more for audio that appeared to be words and phrases spliced together.

Videos like these are easy to make as are special effects clever enough to make anyone look like bin Laden, convincingly enough to fool the public, especially when media reports hype them.

Post-9/11, it's vital to remind the public by strategically timed "Enemy Number One" bin Laden incidents and the "security threat" he represents. If he didn't exist, he'd have to be invented so why not perpetuate the myth, omitting that he was a CIA asset and likely remained one until his death.

Noteworthy is that CBS News anchor Dan Rather reported that he was admitted to a Rawalpindi, Pakistan hospital on September 10, 2001, and France's Le Figaro said:

"Dubai....was the backdrop of a secret meeting between Osama bin Laden and the local CIA agent in July (2001). A partner of the administration of the American Hospital....claims that (bin Laden) stayed (there) between the 4th and 14th of July (and) received visits from many members of his family as well as prominent Saudis and Emiratis. (During the same period), the local CIA agent, known to many in Dubai, was seen taking (the hospital's) main elevator (to) bin Laden's room." Why not if he was a valued asset.

On May 2, the Israeli news website Debka.com featured an "Exclusive Report" saying:

"On April 30, twenty-four hours before a smoking SUV Nissan containing an improvised bomb was defused (in) Times Square....the Pakistani Taliban's top bomb-maker, Qari Hussain Mehsud, took 'full responsibility for the recent attack in the USA' in an audiotape with images on a You Tube website."

Saying no proof of overseas involvement was forensically found, "DEBKAfile's counter-terror sources" noted similarities between the New York bomb and earlier 2005 and 2007 ones in London and Glasgow, Scotland respectively. In each case, they used propane and failed to detonate - the Glasgow one, in fact, causing the car used to burn but not cause a major catastrophe.

DEBKA also quoted Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud saying on an April 4 nine minute tape that "The time is very near when our fedayeen will attack the American states in the major cities." Earlier, Qari Hussein Mehsud "warned NATO governments to denounce the US and apologize for the 'massacres in Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Pakistani tribal areas - otherwise be prepared for the worst destruction and devastation in their own countries.' "

A mid-April Debka report had Iran threatening to retaliate against US cities with nuclear weapons if they're used against Iranian cities or sites.

"For the first time, DEBKAfile's military sources (IDF and/or Mossad ones stoking fear) report, Tehran indicated the possibility of passing nuclear devices to terrorists capable of striking inside the United States....Although Iran has yet to attain operational nuclear arms, our military sources believe it does possess the makings of primitive nuclear devices or 'dirty bombs.' "

With no supportive evidence, these type reports hype fear to prepare the public for what's to come, so if a planned major terrorist event in a Western city, there's a ready suspect to blame and popular approval to act.

Noted Previous False Flags

The historic record is full of false flags, some especially noteworthy. Below are a few examples:

-- in 1898, America falsely accused Spain of blowing up the USS Maine in Havana, Cuba harbor. The Spanish-American war followed;

-- in 1933 Germany, a week before general elections, the strategically timed Reichstag fire (home of the German parliament) was blamed on communists. It got President Paul von Hindenburg to sign an emergency decree. Civil liberties were suspended. Weimar Republic democracy ended, and Hitler assumed fascist powers after enough Nazis were elected to assure it;

-- on August 31, 1939, Nazis impersonating Polish terrorists attacked the Gleiwitz radio station on the border between the two countries, starting WW II;

-- on December 7, 1941, the Roosevelt administration succeeded in manipulating Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, giving FDR the war he wanted from the early 1930s, but had to convince a pacifist public of the threat; the fleet was also tracked across the Pacific, but Admiral HE Kimmel wasn't warned or given known intelligence to assure enough mass casualties for congressional and public support;

-- in 1962, a US Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed false flag attack never happened because President Jack Kennedy rejected it; called Operation Northwoods (a part of Operation Mongoose), the scheme included sinking US ships, shooting down US commercial airliners, blowing up buildings in US cities, attacking America's Guantanamo base, other incidents, and blaming it on Cuba as a reason for war;

-- the fake August 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident initiating full-scale retaliation against North Vietnam after Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution authorizing war without declaring it; and the seminal event of our time -

-- September 11, 2001, clear evidence showing it was a false flag, the Afghan and Iraq wars made possible by fear-mongering blame on the Taliban and Saddam Hussein.

On February 16, 2010, a Washington's blog web site (georgewashington2.blogspot.com) article titled, "Governments ADMIT That They Carry Out False Flag Terror" listed some examples, including:

-- the CIA admitting its 1950s role in toppling Iran's democratically government in 1953;

-- Israel admitting a 1954 attack in Egypt, including planting bombs in US diplomatic facilities, leaving "evidence" of Arab involvement;

-- Indonesia's former president, Abdurrahman Wahid, saying the nation's police or military most likely were involved in the 2002 Bali bombing, killing over 200 people;

-- a former Italian prime minister, judge, and military counterintelligence head, General Gianadelio Maletti, saying America's CIA instigated and abetted right wing terrorist groups in the 1970s and earlier, including bombing a Milan bank in 1969, to rally popular anti-communist support in Italy and other European countries; and

-- many others, including former Carter administration National Security Adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, telling a Senate committee that a false flag terror attack on US soil might occur to blame Iran and justify war.

In his 1997 book, "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives," he said:

"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat," the kind 9/11 created - predicted, planned, orchestrated, and carried out to further new world order dominance globally.

Other False Flag Examples

(1) The March 2004 Madrid train bombings occurred three days before Spain's general elections. With no supportive evidence, they were blamed on Al Qaeda, yet they stoked public fear and were used to warn that other Western cities were threatened, including in America.

Nearly always, Muslims are blamed and arrested, the DEBKAfile citing advance bin Laden tapes threatening to punish Spain for supporting the Bush administration. This time, Basque separatists were also named, again without evidence, and the bin Laden tapes were fakes.

(2) The July 7, 2005 London underground bombings (called 7/7) were a series of attacks on the city's public transport system during the morning rush hour for maximum disruption and casualties. At precisely the same time, an anti-terror drill occurred, simulating real attacks. It was no coincidence this time or ever, others in America and Britain coming on the same day as a real event, other notable ones covered below.

AP reported that the London Israeli embassy warned Scotland Yard about the 7/7 one in advance, and Israeli Army Radio reported that "Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred," but didn't act or issue warnings. In addition, Israel's finance minister at the time, Benjamin Netanyahu, was told not to attend an economic conference in the city where he was scheduled to deliver an address.

Other dignitaries were also warned, but not the public. Even without smoking gun proof, the 7/7 attack was a false flag operation to heighten fear and keep Britain and the West embroiled in war.

(3) On the morning of the 9/11 attack, the CIA ran a "pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building." Held at the Agency's Chantilly, Virginia Reconnaissance Office, AP reported (on August 22, 2002) that it simulated "a small corporate jet (hitting) one of the four towers....after experiencing a mechanical failure."

Unmentioned at the time was a later revealed (but unreported) Homeland Security conference announcement a year later to commemorate the 9/11 event. Held under the auspices of the National Law Enforcement and Security Institute, one of its speakers was John Fulton, CIA Chief of the Strategic War Gaming Division of the National Reconnaissance office in charge of the operation. Another coincidence, or was something more sinister afoot?

The previous year in October, the Pentagon simulated a commercial plane striking the Pentagon, coordinated by its Command Emergency Response Team and the Defense Protective Services Police. This and the 9/11 exercises are more than coincidental, given what's now known and the fallout.

(4) On June 30, 2007, a Jeep Cherokee with propane canisters crashed into Glasgow International Airport's glass doors, the BBC reporting that it "was in the middle of the doorway burning....The car didn't actually explode. There were a few pops and bangs which presumably was the petrol."

The usual suspects were blamed, Al Qaeda and Islamic terrorists, Prime Minister Gordon Brown saying:

"We are dealing, in general terms, with people who are associated with Al Qaeda," followed by his initiating draconian security measures, hyped by the UK Telegraph saying:

An "unknown Al Qaeda terrorist cell (was) thought to be preparing to launch a series of Baghdad-style car bombings." Another Telegraph article mentioned Washington's involvement with UK authorities in hyping the threat, and an ABC News report suggested foreknowledge of the incident based on advance warnings (by unnamed intelligence officials) of Al Qaeda "target(ing) nightclubs and other soft targets....All of this comes just three weeks after what was described as an Al Qaeda graduation ceremony for suicide bombers at a training camp in Pakistan."

Fear mongering and false flags? Draw your own conclusions, understanding the need to stoke fear to keep public support for the "war on terror," the loss of civil liberties for "security," the Afghan and Iraq wars, and whatever else may be planned.

(5) the Christmas 2009 airliner incident involving Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a Nigerian citizen on an Amsterdam - Detroit bound flight. US officials claimed he was trained in Yemen by Al Qaeda, obtained explosive chemicals (PETN), and tried to detonate them on board.

In a December 29 Russia Today interview, Webster Tarpley called him a "protected (CIA) patsy (for a) provocation designed to facilitate US meddling in (Yemen's) civil war (pitting) the Saudi-backed central government against the Iranian-backed Shiite Houthi rebels," being bombed by US and Saudi air strikes.

Abdulmutallab was denied a UK entrance visa, wasn't on a No Fly List, paid cash for a one-way ticket to Detroit, checked no luggage, had a US visa but no passport, and was helped on board by a "well-dressed Indian" to facilitate the likely false flag plot using him as a convenient dupe.

The Wayne Madsen Report called the incident a false flag operation "carried out by (the) intelligence tripartite grouping of CIA, Mossad, and India's Research Analysis Wing (RAW)." Earlier they conspired with "former Afghan KHAD intelligence agents to assassinate former Pakistani Prime Minister Benezir Bhutto....to destabilize Pakistan" for planned balkanization, the same scheme planned for Afghanistan and already implemented in Iraq.

Madsen explained that Abdulmutallab's PETN was "weak, technically deficient," failed to go off properly, and if so would have had the impact of an exploding fire cracker.

Madsen also reported that the same tripartite CIA, Mossad, and RAW alliance was behind the November 2008 Mumbai, India attacks, killing nearly 200 and wounding hundreds more. Webster Tarpley said almost for certain Pakistan's ISI radical wing was involved, and that Indian and Mossad operatives conduct regular cross-border missions into Pakistan from India and Afghanistan.

(6) Make of it what you will, but in Miami on January 11, 2010 (one day before Haiti's earthquake), the Pentagon's US Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) simulated a hurricane striking Haiti in preparation for subsequent measures to be implemented, that, in fact, would be a carefully planned military operation for occupation, control, and planned plunder.

Also, Deputy SOUTHCOM head, General PK Keen, was in Haiti when the quake struck, ready to assume command when it did and use a communication tool called the Transnational Information Sharing Cooperation project (TISC), linking other nations and NGOs with the Pentagon and US government to facilitate measures to be implemented, none to help Haitians.

Final Comments

As long as imperial ambitions and rogue agencies like CIA and their foreign counterparts exist, false flag operations will be commonplace, the May 1 New York one the latest example, and maybe a forerunner of what's to come - another 9/11 some believe, far worse than the first one, perhaps involving a nuclear incident in a US city. Then using it as a pretext for more war and to divert attention from America's deepening economic crisis, likely to erupt in protests because of Washington's indifference to millions affected.

Whether or not the direst predictions occur will only be known in the fullness of time. In the meantime, stay tuned for more updates as events unfold, and be prepared for the worst.

Stephen Lendman
- Homepage: http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2010/05/new-york-car-bomb-incident-another.html

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US bill to link 'terror' to citizenship

08.05.2010 19:58



 http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=125722&sectionid=3510203


excerpt from: US bill to link 'terror' to citizenship

Press TV, 7 May 2010


New bipartisan legislation introduced in US Congress says Americans involved in terrorist activities should be denied their right of citizenship.

If passed, the Terrorist Expatriation Act (*) would strip any American that provides material support or resources to foreign terrorists from their citizenship.

"As the attempted terrorist attack on Times Square showed us again, our enemies today are even more willing than the Nazis or fascists were to kill innocent civilian Americans [in WWII]," Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Connecticut, told reporters on Thursday, according to CNN.

"Our enemies today," he said, "are stateless actors who don't wear uniforms and plot against Americans abroad and here in the United States."

Lieberman, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee and a staunch supporter of the Israeli regime, argued that the proposed bill is the expansion of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1940.

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(*) the full text of the Act:

 http://lieberman.senate.gov/assets/pdf/TEA_full.pdf

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related links:


Obama calls war council after NY plot

Press TV, 6 May 2010

 http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=125623&sectionid=3510203



President Obama on Times Square: "But as Americans, and as a Nation, We Will Not Be Terrorized"

The White House website, 4 May 2010

 http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/05/04/president-times-square-america...

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911blogger
- Homepage: http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-07/us-bill-link-terror-citizenship


Conspiracy theory garbage

08.05.2010 23:17

911 was an outside job.

anon


Listen, you might be right but...

09.05.2010 01:43

There are enough fukd up things going on in the world that we already have evidence for and are not classed as a conspiracy theory. Why not divert your energy towards those things? You may be right about the New York bomb or 9/11 etc, but who knows. There is no concrete proof! Sure, there are plenty of things that are suspicious in these conspiracies - but we have 100% solid proof about plenty of other evil deeds going on around the world as we type these words...

a


^^ Agree with the above ^^

09.05.2010 10:01

There are so many clearly evil acts and blatant problems across the globe, whether it be the demolition of homes in Gaza, the killing of street kids in Brazil, animals in laboratories, pollution in rapidly developing cities, illegal logging and species eradication for timber and palm oil etc... etc... that I can only conclude that those who spend endless hours trawling through news reports and court statements etc for a tiny hint at something that may suggest there is a deep conspiracy are simply trying to excuse themselves from acting to achieve real change.

Unless those involved suddenly have an incredible bout of conscience, we will never know what happened with 9/11. The incalculable time and money that has been poured into proving the unprovable could have achieved so much if it had been channelled towards addressing one of the myriad of known social justice issues (many of which are perpetrated by the same administrations that the conspiracy theorists are trying to expose; in the UK we are more likely to topple the administration by focusing on rallying the public over MP's expenses, MP's for hire, bankers bonuses, people being forcibly prevented from voting, mass redundancies, extraordinary rendition, Iraq etc... than by trying to get them to admit something they would be completely mental to admit).

Please stop wasting your time, and space on Indymedia and focus your attentions on the very real problems that are there for us all to see, once we have achieved that then we can root around and try to delve out some deeply hidden plot that may or may not exist. Until then, just admit you want to look like you are being radical, without taking any of the risks or effort that those of us actually trying to achieve palpable change are engaging in daily.

Blah blah blah


^^ Agree with the above too ^^

09.05.2010 13:44

Well put. I'm sure all these crazy theories are only encouraged by the various states to discredit those who point out the real wrongs in the world as so eloquently stated by the comments above.

Get away from your computer screens and get involved with things that can make a difference.

Fred


and that

09.05.2010 14:01

And that, folks, is -- in one single thread -- exactly why Indymedia died.

rest in peace


troll alert!

09.05.2010 15:00




A message to the 5 trolls posters above:

You and your troll colleagues who are systematically infesting Indymedia UK and any other UK website where there is any trace of genuine dissent, are doing a great job in carving up those who oppose imperialist warfare. Well done!



(*) "An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Trolls delight in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.

A classic troll tries to make us believe that he is a skeptic. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. A troll is usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it against them."

source:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1032102

anti-troll


What wasn't false flag?

09.05.2010 18:35

Was there a single terrorist attack that wasn't some sort of black propaganda operation according to this conspiracy theorist?

Ed


Criticism

09.05.2010 18:59

So criticising something or making a comment that disagrees with something that someone has written is trolling is it?

Shut the fuck up.

I'm fed up of people being labelled a trolls when they're just making comments. And if they are trolls, just ignore them! We don't need someone to make a comment about a "troll alert!" everytime they suspect someone! We can deal with this shit ourselves and work out whether to reply to a comment and be sucked into a pointless debate by a potential troll or not.

ANYWAY! My main point was going to be that I also agree with the comment that we have plenty of hard evidence about so many other things going on in the World and we should be putting more energy into spreading the word about these things.

It's always interesting to hear other people's views on different events, etc. - like 9/11 - and be able to discuss them, but I think we do need to remember that we have a long way to go already in trying to stop vivisection, slavery, etc. as it is and we at least have hard evidence of a lot of cruelty and suffering. Once we start talking about things that others will just pass off as conspiracy theory and call us nutters, we've totally turned them off listening to us...

Maybe we should start small, hey?? Start with things we have a chance of people agreeing with us about!

Fed up


Please stop telling others what to do

09.05.2010 21:15

"Please stop wasting your time, and space on Indymedia and focus your attentions on the very real problems that are there for us all to see, once we have achieved that then we can root around and try to delve out some deeply hidden plot that may or may not exist."

"Get away from your computer screens and get involved with things that can make a difference."

Are there any other activists that you would like to tell what to do or is it just 9/11 activists that need telling off for working on a matter that you don't think they should?

"And that, folks, is -- in one single thread -- exactly why Indymedia died."

Indymedia has carried posts questioning 9/11 since it happened, so it died straight after 9/11 did it?

Hmmmz


Believe it or not...

10.05.2010 08:13

....it is perfectly possible to be opposed to imperialist warfare without buying into conspiracy theory nonsense about 9/11 or without the need to declare every single terrorist incident as a false flag. Truthers frequently like to trot out this rather childish dichotomous view of the world, that anyone who laughs or pokes ridicule at their fact-free speculations must be some sort of pro war neo-con or a government agent (or even just a 'troll')

The fact is there are plenty of progressive people who read Indymedia for activist information who, nonetheless, have considered the case put forward by the 'truther cult' and found it to be full of half truths, downright lies, extremely poor science and pure speculation. We do not swoop on such posts - we are always here, and are exercising our right to say something is bollocks when it quite clearly is.

Conspiracy theorists are clearly not interested in the complex, and impersonal, interactions between social forces which shape real world events. Instead they like to reduce each event as being the product of the machinations of small groups of 'evil people' who control everything. As somebody has already pointed out - are there any actual terrorist events that you do not consider to be false flag operations?

Personally speaking (and I am sure I am not alone in this) this is a laughable position and well worth both criticising and ridiculing.

Long live the Indymedia critics of 9/11 truth


Islamophobia in the UK post 9/11 and 7/7

10.05.2010 10:52



excerpt from:

Is it racist and/or Islamophobic to continue to subscribe to the official story of 9/11? Should we not denounce it as a racist rumour?

by Keith Mothersson, 9 July 2008


Part of the hill we have to climb reflects the hyper judgmental way so many of us have fallen into thinking about racism, and even more about racists!

We don't think with compassionate wisdom of racism as a prevalent vulnerability to mistaken attitudes which all who grow up in Imperialist countries are perhaps especially liable to share to some extent and which easily cause harm because they impact negatively on certain people defined ethnically/'racially'.

Rather we have come to think of racism as a defining mark of Badness, something which resides in those evil Racists out there - who probably need to be chased down the street as the Anti-Nazi League did in the late seventies.

This idea that racism resides mainly in those others allows us to polish our egos quite cheaply, with self-assurance that we are on the side of the angels because

• we buy Fair Trade goods (at a labour-remuneration ratio of ten minutes work here for 100 there),

• oppose 'heavy-handed' immigration controls (but not ‘sensible legislation’),

• go along to Stop the War demos - which don’t, alas (but we don’t delve deeper into the reasons why we haven’t found a way, a voice and a unity to stop the Wars - though we should give ourselves one cheer for having limited Western militarism to a degree).


Us 'racist'? - Never!, a real affront to the narcissistic tendencies we all harbour to some extent or other.

Instead of being compassionate to ourselves, our harsh judgments of others are internalised as defensiveness which gets in the way of the needed revision of our views and perspective, both at the time someone is drawing our attention to the racism we too are perhaps practicing or complicit in, and as an on-going awareness-expanding process, whereby we hopefully shed more and more aspects of our imperial/racist conditioning - and hence become freer less-afraid human beings and better allies to the most oppressed people in the world and in the UK.

So I am not saying we good liberal progressive lefty green peace people are only racist. I am saying that people hold a spectrum of beliefs many of which are indeed anti-racist/pro-human, but we should all consider that it is likely that we also hold other assumptions/ identifications which may be unconsciously derogatory of 'others', and cherish other views which we may confidently assume to be universally valid, but merely reflect our relatively privileged position in the imperial hierarchy of class and global caste.

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Note: Keith Mothersson was the founder of 'Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth' (MUJCA)

 http://www.mujca.com/

He passed away on July 3, 2009.

Keith Mothersson
- Homepage: http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15222


The best bit in Four Lions

10.05.2010 12:20


...is the bit parodying the "Truthers" at the end.

This post, like so many others, tries to give the impression that all suicide bombings, or bombings of civilian targets by Islamicist groups must be "false flags". Funny that the "truthers" only come out when it's a western country involved. Are the hundreds of other bombings that take place each year "false flags" too? Because not only would that be a logistical nightmare, but it's impossible to see the benefit to the CIA.

The attacks which succeed, do so because of cock-ups by the police and others. And the attacks which fail do so because of cock-ups by the people involved.

PS) Please stop repeated the untruths about the July 7 mock exercise. It was a paper exercise in a board room of a publishing company - not some massive military drill as the desperate truthers keep suggesting.

Norvello


"we have 100% solid proof about plenty of other evil deeds"

10.05.2010 13:20

We have 100% solid proof about global warming? peak oil? the illegality of the Iraq war? that Blair is a war criminal?

100%?


more on the death of indymedia

11.05.2010 14:43

Truthers, conspiracy freaks, and Jew-haters - remember when Indymedia meant more than that?

blahman