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BNP Organisers Come Clean Over EDL Involvement

Investigator | 22.03.2010 14:28 | Anti-racism | Repression | Social Struggles | Sheffield

As British authorities are accused of turning a blind eye to fascist racial incitement and street violence, there is damning evidence BNP organisers are, as suspected, using the EDL to do the BNP's dirty work by plotting race riots in multicultural areas.



The alleged failure of the Greater Manchester Police to act impartially, coupled with the cancelling of charges against Tommy Robinson and the softening of media attitudes towards the English Defence League, have paved the way for the BNP to come clean about their interests with the EDL.

Until recently the British National Party were still peddling their tired and worn lies about the EDL being proscribed, even though Chris Renton has been outed as the Griffinite stooge with his hands on the reins of the nationalist football hooligan bandwagon. While some Aryan purists within the BNP err on caution on the presence of Uncle Toms in the EDL (just as they do regarding changing the BNP's constitution), many BNP organisers are now openly declaring their love of the EDL on hardcore neo-nazi chat sites such as Stormfront (see the screenshot), and the Griffinite "Covert Underground Nuisance Tactics" website (abreviated C.U.N.T.S).

"Covert Tactics" is one of the most racist Griffinite websites on the net, and bearing in mind their candid anti-Semitism, why would they throw their towel in with EDL rallies where a tokenite Israeli flag flown for effect (the Jew Flag as Aryan hardliners love to call it), unless the EDL had become the street-fighting division of the BNP (as suggested by the screenshot)?

On Saturday, Covert Tactics were openly supporting the EDL's visit to Bolton, carrying a live feed of the EDL rally, arguably peculiar behaviour for a website run by trusted close friends of Nick Griffin - Tommy Williams and Dave Howard.

Since the CPS dropped charges against Tommy Robinson, police forces up and down the country have noticeably dropped their guise of impartiality when policing EDL rallies and anti-fascist counterprotests. This change in attitude was first visible during the London scuffles when Dutch Islamophobe Geert Wilders arrived to speak in the House of Lords, when the Metropolitan Police waded heavy-handedly into law-abiding anri-racists, batons-blazing.

The policing debacle in Bolton when peaceful UAF supporters were arrested and released without charge, coupled with a parellel sea-change of the reporting of the British Media, (from the Guardian to the BBC, politically correctly labelling the EDL merely "right wing" rather than far right), questions must be asked as to what deals (if any) were done in secret, in the Sheffield Police Station interrogation room, between the authorities and the leadership of the EDL.

For the Establishment to do a sudden about-turn following the EDL's violent anti-police thuggery of Stoke, is absolutely astonishing.

From the BPP to the BNP and the National Front, Special Branch are believed to have infiltrated the whole of the Far Right using the carrot as well as the stick.

For every threat or sanction comes a concession (in this case, if true, a loss of impartiality and softening of policing towards EDL racism and criminality). If it was public knowledge the leadership of the EDL had done a deal with the police or the government following interrogation in Sheffield (under coertion or otherwise), the organisation's credibility would be in tatters, and their followers would walk away, accusing the leadership of having "sold out", thus a juicy "carrot" (the Metropolitan Police viewed as taking sides rather than doing a deal). goes some way to convince the EDL's supporters its leaders still have its interests at heart.

Just how the EDL's majority football hooligan support base will react if they discover their leadership have grassed-up its loyal football hooligans to Special Branch, is not known, as for the moment, the extent of "state-collaboration" will be hidden amongst the celebrations of a seemingly victorious EDL, but if the police continue to treat the EDL with kid gloves, people will eventually ask awkward questions.

It takes a quarter of a century for official documents to be declassified. It wasn't until many years after Margaret Thatcher left office when the horrid truth was revealed about illegal paramilitary police tactics, agent provocateurs and state-approved strike-breakers in the miners strike, by which time, most if not all key players have left office, making justice for the wronged victims largely impossible. The time-friendly veil of secrecy afforded to the police, government and civil service allows human rights abuses to happen safe in the knowledge nobody will ever be held to account for their actions.

The intrigue of what went on in the Sheffield police station interrogation room might never be known, but if the authorities continue to treat the EDL with kid gloves, society will most definately suffer.

How much longer must Britain's racial and religious minorities suffer open incitement, whilst the upholders of law and order continue to turn a blind eye to illegally provocative chants, Facebook and YouTube death threats to journalists, and open calls online for racist murder and the "wiping out of Muslims?"

Are peaceful anti-racist protestors to now expect regular harrasment, violence and intimidation from police, simply to keep loose-tongued EDL leaders happy?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Abqu-dVWc&feature=player_embedded

The 89 year old veteran campaigner knocked over by out-of-control riot cops was an act of criminal negligence, and the apparent taking of sides with the neo-facists of the EDL makes a mockery of the supposed impartiality of the Greater Manchester Constabulary. Several policemen have been filmed laughing and joking with EDL leaders, which proves beyond all doubt the lack of professionalism of the Bolton police.

Immediate questions must be asked to our democratically elected government in regards to whether secret deals have been done between the EDL and the state. Nobody in their right mind appreciates gangs of maurading soccer thugs fighting amonst themselves outside football grounds, trashing pubs, shops, trains and buses with insane abandon, but if the EDL leadership have indeed thrashed out a deal to grass-up their football hooligan followers in return for "public respectability", this is of concern for everybody.

If organised racism is being tolerated just so the British Sporting Scene can be cleansed of hooligans in time for the 2012 Olympics, to assure the safety of tourists, without more importantly considering the safety of our own racial and religious minorities from the "well directed boot or fist", democracy is well and truly failing.

The far right have made a meal of the fact that fewer EDL racists were arrested at Bolton, while ignoring the fact that EDL thugs were not arrested for inflamatory chanting, throwing missiles, and walking the streets drunken and disorderly. If the amount of actual crimes are considered per person, the EDL would be seen as culprits not victims. The only reason there was not an Anti-Muslim pogrom as in Stoke, is down to the steadfastness and refusal to budge under intense pressure of the mostly peaceful anti-fascist supporters. Whether socialist or anarchist, Quaker, Buddhist, Muslim or Athiest, there was unity against a common enemy last Saturday, and ignoring the heavy internet trolling of the far right and the dodgy pro-EDL media spin, everybody who attended Bolton helped ensure the fight-hungry EDL yobs went home unfulfilled.

Don't be fooled by either arrest numbers or EDL lies, trolling and spin. With a ready-made army of seasoned ultra-violent football hooligans, regardless of public intent, the EDL's sole intent is to cause deadly race riots, and the greatest danger is that complacency will allow this to happen. A number of smaller-scale EDL events are happening shortly in the Midlands and the South where the EDL will "lie low", preparing for far more destructive altercations when the time is right.

The ethos of the Turner Diaries, a popular read of the Far Right, is one of "leaderless resistance", racial terrorism and open racial warfare on the streets, and this is the reason the BNP have reportedly taken control of the EDL.

Whichever puppeteer is running things at the top, be it Chris Renton, Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson or Alan Lake, the EDL's "political agenda" is in-line with that of Geert Wilders, i.e., vehemently Islamophobic and designed to alienate an entire community not just religious extremists, stopping mainstream Muslims from practising their faith (closing down mosques, banning Halal meat), with the ultimate aim of reducing the numbers of Muslims in the UK, something that can only be achieved via forced repatriation, nazi-style sterilisation, or a Muslim Holocaust, as British Muslims are here to stay.

If you think this is alarmist, spend time trawling through the many thousands of Facebook and genocidal YouTube comments. Behind the spin and trolling of Trevor Kelway, forget the lack of arrests at Bolton. The EDL's street-fighting agenda and their continued utilisation of violent racist hooligans, inviting Wigan Mike and Liam Pinkham to attend rallies via the phone (as recently revealed on VNN), supports the observations that they are merely waiting their chance to create "the mother of all race riots".

Nobody has the moral right to march willy-nilly through towns and city centres peddling hated and fear under the guise of free speech, be it (banned) Islamic extremists or (not banned) racial supremacists. Allowing racist chants to go unpunished, while fascist-friendly police phyically assault peaceful anti-racist protestors simply exercising their opposition to organised racial hatred, is an abuse of the very Western democracy the EDL neo-Nazi thugs claim to hold dear.

If EDL grasses are (as alleged) helping the authorities entrap a handful of British football hooligans while whole communities suffer fear, hatred and desperation, this is most surely a price not worth paying.

The General Election approaching, ask your prospective parliamenatry candidates how they will protect communities from EDL invasion, and vote accordingly.

(NO TROLLS PLEASE!!)

Investigator

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Cut to the chase

22.03.2010 14:33

And your point is ?

Fa


Excellent article!

22.03.2010 14:37

Great article, thanks Indymedia. Even the usual pro-EDL trolls cannot doubt the evidence that the BNP are getting more and more involved with the EDL.

The suggestion that the EDL are grassing up some of there own hooligans seems to support what others are telling me!

SInister and very probable. Arrest, interrogate and break a deal.

Jenny Penny


Fuck Off Nazi Trolls

22.03.2010 14:45

The point is - the BNP have taken over the EDL, using them like they did Blood and Honour.

Stephen


Surely not

22.03.2010 15:01

The far right have made a meal of the fact that fewer EDL racists were arrested at Bolton, while ignoring the fact that EDL thugs were >>>not<<< arrested for inflamatory chanting, throwing missiles, and walking the streets drunken and disorderly.

Surely that 'not' shouldn't be there?

Bonzo


?!

22.03.2010 15:05

Why do you constantly come on here with your excessively long articles with no basis for research other than a few comments on far right forums. Every one of your posts, on here and on Lancaster unity blog, is followed by at least one person 'congratulating' you on an 'excellent article' in a similar over-blown and hysterical manner. I have no evidence at all (which doesn't seem to be a problem for your own articles, so why should it be for me), but a think that you are leaving postive comments after posting to make yourself look good.

What is wrong with you? Are you on day release or something?!

I am absolutely fed up with your ranting and stifling of opinion with your daft images, and your solo mission to 'prove' that the EDL are 'nazis'. Anyone who wants to seriously devote time to politics should stay well clear of this person and their hysterical 'soap boxing'. I don't know what your problem is, but as I have said before - sit back, calm down, and take some Valium and leave indymedia free if your rantings. It's a flawed platform, but a really necesscary service at the moment, and the last thing we need is manic 'prophets' like yourself ranting on over and over again.....

I know it's not possible, but I really wish someone would do something about this person - I really do......

jon


The EDL Are Racist Loonies

22.03.2010 15:15

"What is wrong with you? Are you on day release or something?!"

Anybody who joins the EDL must be mentally ill. They are racist thugs and hooligans of the lowest common demonimator. They want Muslims dead, if you read the YouTube comments.

And they are planning big race riots too in Northern England. Mark my words.

dave-o


Pictures Galore

22.03.2010 15:17


Seik Fuckin' Heil!!!

patrick


Sure

22.03.2010 15:19

Go off and join the EDl. Jon/Martin, if you love 'em that much, loser!!!

.


Pictures galore

22.03.2010 15:44













Pictures galore -

The Trollenberg Terror


thickoes

22.03.2010 16:19

"Just how the EDL's majority football hooligan support base will react if they discover their leadership have grassed-up its loyal football hooligans to Special Branch, is not known, as for the moment, the extent of "state-collaboration" will be hidden amongst the celebrations of a seemingly victorious EDL, but if the police continue to treat the EDL with kid gloves, people will eventually ask awkward questions".

If hoolies had brains, they might wander wot the feck's going on.

Shame they are all thick!

smap


Casuals and IQ

22.03.2010 16:51

Smap, don't talk bollocks about casuals and your preconceived ideas about their intelligence. There are plenty of people who have flirted or are involved with the casual scene who are intelligent people and genuinely good people as well. Just because someone is violent it doesn't make them intrinsically stupid. There have been casuals involved in anti-fascist groups for years.

AVAF


does it matter

22.03.2010 17:02

Even if the BNP have hijacked the EDL ,I see no laws broken. Pity that cant be said about about our mate Weyman and the 50 other unwashed that got their collars felt

Fa


students do wash

22.03.2010 17:58

Most students wash, Fa(sh), for your information. I'm studying criminal law, so what goes on at protests like these interests me.

Daniell(A)


Does seem strange....

22.03.2010 20:44

Was only thinking something similar.
EDL trash Stoke, EDL leaders arrested by police with guns, homes searched and computers taken. All of a sudden they are released without charge and the police go after the peaceful-to-the-point-of-uselessness Bennet and co while ignoring EDL racism and violence, someone has been doing a lot of talking in a Shefiield police station. The EDL are state, if not before the arrest then they are now.

IHTF


snakes in the grass

22.03.2010 21:14

If the football hooligan firms realise they have been betrayed by the EDL leaders, there will be hell to pay...

NO-ONE LIKES A GRASS!

Wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of some of these footy lads when they learn what their own midfield generals have done to them, 'spesh if peeps get jailed with grass info...

Strangely enough, Casuals United which is supposedly supporting casuals was recently condemning football violence.

Now this really does appear fishy. sounds like the work of Plod pulling the casuals' strings.

Wish I had been a fly on the wall of the Sheffield copshop.

Was it Don Colione who used to make deals that you couldn't refuse... or else?

United Fan


EDL Losers

22.03.2010 22:08

EDL = honeytrap.
Not long now before it all comes tumbling down on their sorry heads.

Renegade


Sport Relief

22.03.2010 22:33


The EDL leadership should show their love of football by raising money for Sport Relief.

If they start running now, the most vengeful footie firms might not catch up with them straight away.

Get set.... Ready..... GO! lol

No you can't borrow the starting gun for your own protection.

Linford


shits gonna happen

22.03.2010 23:08

Heres whats gonna happen -
---------------------------------------------

Careless whispers, members start seeking the truth.

EDL webmaster censures all dissent. Marshy at CU does the same.

Leadership confronted on a demo demand truth not bullshit.

Half-baked lies followed by defeaning silence.

Someone spills the beans about the sheffield grassathon.

Death threats galore.

EDL Leaders go into hiding.

Paranoia.

Desperate last-minute rethink and betrayal of cop deals.

To save there cowardly skins from angry hooligan members, the lying grassing knobcheeses go out of there way to prove they are not state by organising a large scale Bradford/Oldham style riot against police demands.

Police doublecrossed go ape shit themselves.

Britains biggest race riot with guns, petrol bombs and stabbings galore.

Fucking hell breaks loose!

Everything kicks off big-time.

World War III.

Five people including innocent little kiddies die in the riots.

EDL Leaders serve twenty years in solitary without parole as child-murdering scumbags.

END OF STORY.

fortune teller


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22.03.2010 23:15

Don't like your webshite or your politics its shit but if there's truth in the rumours they will need investigating.

Grasses are the scum of the earth, worse than you lot.

casual


obvious...

22.03.2010 23:41

Fuckin hell... you don't need to be a genius to work it out..... Of course it's all gonna come out, and no-one likes a grass.

Billy Whizz


UAF grasses

23.03.2010 03:55

Next time watch THEM! They are the ones who tell their members to link arms, clump together and then all stand back while everyone else on the demo gets arrested.

anon


edl/ bnp uaf havent helped

23.03.2010 10:39

Bnp/ edl exist to provoke tension and blame it on others. The uaf have been useless in combatting this. We need one none state led movement against them

steve scum


who are the bnp organisers?

23.03.2010 15:46

the article suggests bnp organisers are involved but then fails to mention any. who are the organisers?

veg


Very fishy indeed

23.03.2010 20:14

Let's face it, the police took their computers too, so the state now has the email address if not further details of every EDL member to have been in contact with the arrestees and I bet there were tons of other incriminating stuff on them. I reckon there's been a Kate McDermody style capitulation to the cops.

"We won't arrest you for what we've found on your computers and we'll crack down heavy on the anti-fascists at Bolton if you tell us everything we want to know whenever we want to know it"

Nothing else can explain going from gun - point raid targets of the state to mollycoddled and protected charges as happenned at Bolton in the space of a couple of weeks. If I was in the EDL and known to those arrested I'd be shitting it right now. The police may be protecting you at the moment because it suits their purposes but they now know everything about you, you're day in court is on its way.

IHTF


Snitches

23.03.2010 23:59

On a Casuals United article poo-pooing the allegations of grassing, they suddenly without notice deleted all the comments discussing grassing. Dodgy to the extreme!

The EDL's loyal casuals must have permanently brown y-fronts since Sheffield!

When Special Branch gets its razor-like claws dug into you, it's either prison or snitching up your mates to save your bacon.

dotdash


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