tories to criminalise trespass
piglet's uncle | 25.02.2010 01:24 | Free Spaces | Repression | Social Struggles
worrying but not unsurprising little horror from their own website. this is likely to be used as a catch-all for just about every form of trespass ever used.
piglet's uncle
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http://www.conservatives.com/News/News_stories/2010/02/Ending_exploitation_of_the_planning_system.aspx
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The Mist Begins To Clear
25.02.2010 02:30
It becomes ever more clear who the 'police' are really working for and it definitely is not the people of this country. Time to start rolling up our sleeves methinks... the time for intellectual chit-chat is just about done.
The oligarchs masonic pyramid system of control and oppression must be smashed!!!
Klamber
Furthermore...
25.02.2010 08:19
Aggravated trespass is always an issue if activists are stopping environmental carnage for example. I have been told on many occassions after being arrested for it that I have interfered with a legal activity as security guards have had to get off their bums (the legal activity or inactivity) and come and say hello. Aggravated trespass or section 68 and 69 of the Criminal Justice Act 1994 has never to my knowledge been used to protect the weak. For example an elderly persons legal activity of sitting quietly in the garden might be disrupted by someone trespassing and taunting them. Panarama just did a very interesting programme which highlighted the harassment of disabled folk, funny enough the police were "powerless" to do anything although I could think of several laws they could use but could not be arsed to including the CJA and the Protection from Harassment Act.
This proposed law will only be used as a tool to curb dissent, after all hunts regularily trespass whilst illegally hunting wild mammals and the police do absolutely nothing. Try and film it and you risk arrest.
Lynn Sawyer
aggravated trespass already illegal
25.02.2010 11:28
the question is will this new law criminalise squatting-which still requires a civil court hearing before repossesion eviction and and possible arrests can happen
sounds like tories are seeking to empower police to arrest on suspicion of trespass (not even aggravated by the other factor needed in ag tres) which would bypass the court eviction process. landowner would not have to prove right to land to a court-
there ends squatters rights which go back to the norman conquest.
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correction, i meant to write
25.02.2010 12:03
one thing that has occurred to me is that every postal worker etc INTENDS to commit trespass hundreds of time a day so they'll certainly need to word the law more carefully than that simple knee-jerking statement does.
piglet's uncle
banning your squatting, stealing your history
25.02.2010 12:25
conservatives
Unworkable
25.02.2010 13:44
Also there are huge issues as this is currently a part of civil law, look at the trouble they had with the CJA. I doubt they will be dumb enough to give themselves another huge headache of these proportions, as this form of repression invariably mobilizes resistance and could conceivably create massive opposition to the police.
Headline: Chillax, they always do this, but do get ready to firmly oppose it if they're ever stupid enough to actually try it.
ex-squatter
clarifications
25.02.2010 21:15
The new law would further criminalise people squatting or protesting, with a traveller lifestyle etc.
Unfortunately I don't share the sense of safety of others that it won't be used by the police, that it's unworkable or that there'll be the same opposition as with the CJA. Unfortunately.
legal eagle
they'll try very hard to make it workable alright
26.02.2010 00:21
"it creates a tremendous strain on already slim [police] resources."
just what country are you living in to say this? wake up! at the climate camp at kingsnorth, kent police willingly spunked away nearly 6 million of taxpayers money doing their utmost to prevent a legitimate protest by using highly intimidatory stop and searches and dawn raids on sleeping campers. that's not the action of an organisation lacking resources. and haven't you ever watched someone being caught shoplifting something trivial from a large shop? within minutes there will be at least two cop vehicles there with half a dozen cops and sirens blaring. but when a little old lady's council flat gets burgled that's when the cops will claim they don't have the resources to investigate even though her life may be wrecked by such an incident and tesco is hardly likely to be left reeling by the loss of the profit from a chocolate bar. for public order situations or protecting corporate profits, the cops always have the resources to pull out all the stops. sorry but for a squatter you seem incredibly unobservant about the way the law protects the few.
piglet's uncle
Re: unworkable
27.02.2010 18:25
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