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The rumours of fascism and Blood & Honour in Elephant Head Camden are unfounded

Elephants Head in Camden, a customer. | 16.02.2010 00:48 | Anti-racism | Other Press | Social Struggles

Recently claims were made by an Italian speaking poster that Blood & Honour fascists were meeting in the Elephants Head in Camden on Camden High Street London. Posts written by either an Italian person or Italian speaking person appear to be have been made maliciously. Anti fascists have checked out the pub & have found no evidence of this & it seems like a vendetta against the pub or rumours.



We have visited the pub and we have not seen any signs of Blood and Honour t-shirts etc. There are skinheads who drink in there however they are not racists but rather "old skool skins" ie SHARP who listen to Jamaican SKA in the pub.
We reckon that a vendetta aginst the pub or simply rumours were behind the posts.
Hope that clears that up.

Elephants Head in Camden, a customer.

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no your wrong

16.02.2010 07:12

my friend's pet dog's best mate's cousin told me the same story! and he is an Arsenal fan, so he can't be lying.

well sometimes.

jo blogs

For years the Elephants head has been frequented by fascists

16.02.2010 08:23

sounds to me like the management maybe getting a little scared and too right they should be cos you just dont know whats around the corner........

@narchist

To the landlord

16.02.2010 11:50

if the elephant's head puts its own house in order there'd be no need for 'italian' posters to spread such rumours.

Firm eye being kept on the place.

Camden anarchist

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you won't be keeping an eye on the place much longer crackhead

16.02.2010 18:59

The Italian poster is a lying crackhead ; )

anon

Those two previous posters are not Camden Anarchists

16.02.2010 20:09

The people who wrote those posts are not Camden Anarchists. There isn't a problem with fascism in the Elephants Head and that's that.

The previous posters have a vendetta against the pub for some other reason.

Camden Anarchist [a genuine one]

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We see that Jo blogs has made Islamophobic comments on Indymedia

17.02.2010 07:56

Sad to hear Jo Blogs that you're as Islamophobic as your crack dealing Tin Man boyfriend. Neither of you are Camden Anarchists and you should refrain from defaming them.
How you pair manage to sell all that crack and MDMA like that in the street "without anyone knowing" is disconcerting to say the least. When you are so friendly with the police and all. We think that you should stay out of the Elephants Head and leave the customers alone. Toilets are for the use of the customers of the Elephants Head only.

Elephants Head customer.

the previous real one camden anarchist is not a camden anarchist

17.02.2010 08:46

he is from the continuity camden anarchists a split group.

FASCISTS DO FREQUENT THE ELEPHANTS HEAD, JUST GO AND CHECK IT OUT!

Fuck the fascist apologists!

I'm a Camden anarchist and so is my wife

The Continuity Camden Anarchists....? There's no such thing.

17.02.2010 23:09

If you have a problem with the pub then sort it out yourself. Don't launch a childish "We'll set the Camden Anarchists On You" because you are not one and they would never write this stuff on here as result of hearsay and wouldn't write silly threats about corners....

Camden Anarchists

some clarity

18.02.2010 13:32

NO - the Elephants Head has never been accused of being a 'fash pub' i.e. a pub where the landlord is Far Right or allows the Far Right to either have meetings or a visible presence.

YES - the pub is frequented by Far Right types, the subcultural types, cos fuck me its camden - all manner of short haired and long haired heavy rocker will frequent somewhere in the area.

NO - the fash that occasionally drink the pub are not a threat to the area or wider society in any significant way.

YES - there have been a number of fights with them nonetheless cos they are fash and fash get slapped.

That is all. Ooh matron i think that guy is wearing a deaths head t shirt, oh no its slightly different and he's asian, no wait that guy is wearing a black bomber oh he's a bouncer and ononononononon goodbye.

Bill Stickers

Elephants Head is not run by fascists & don't host organised fascist meetings.

18.02.2010 17:48

The Elephants Head in Camden does not host organised fascist meetings and is not run by the Far Right.
There have been some misleading posts against the Elephants Head from someone who writes in Italian. That poster is nothing to do with the Camden Anarchists or Camden Antifash.

 camdenantifash@yahoo.co.uk

Camden Antifash
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info...

18.02.2010 19:35

im the person i wrotte the report about elephants head... first i never told that the owner of the pub was fascist ... i just spoke about my experience in the pub since 2003 ..i was in the elephants head (costumer) since 2003 and since that time was always neo nazis there but because the pub was always full of anarchists and punks the nazis never got too agressive about it ..and all the people who frequent that pub during that time they now ,,, in 2009 me and same friends (anarchists) we went to the pub and we saw persons with blood honour t shirts ,,since that day we went there just to see the ambient and BINGO .. always the same shit heads (neonazis) drinking and laughing ..and all the italian antifa people from london they know that fuking scum neo nazis from rome they frequent that pub ...i never say that the owner was fascist but the owner allowed neo nazis drink and frequent the pub ..diferent story from the other pub in kentish town .. we as people minded against neo nazis we shudnt allowed nazis to drink in town ..they not welcome ....i hope people understand that !!!!! and since i send the first report about this case im not allowed to send more comments in indymedia .. and we live in a democracy ah ah ah ...GOOD NIGHT WHITE PRIDE ...by the way im not italian ..just a person who travells and dont like nazis ....autonome linke internacional against nazis

one of many

Elephants head..Redneck or Fascist.. ?

18.02.2010 22:04

Whats the difference between a Redneck and a Fascist ?

Lot of talk on here about Fascists at The Elephants Head pub at Camden Town London.

The Elephants Head is certainly a Unique pub...It's an old fashioned London boozer in the middle of a sea of Trendy Wine Bars, Blues Bars, Trendy Comedy Bars..and what else there is in Camden.

The Elephant certainly does not attract a Trendy Croud..at all.
What it does attract is mostly working class drinkers..Usually made up of Rock a Billy's.
Older Skinheads, and Punky Types..

I would say there a lots of Rednecks there...But Are they Fascists ?

Rock a Billy's follow to the letter the Fashion, music, and Red Neck attitudes of the 1950's
White Deep South USA.......But are They Fascists ?

The Ageing Skinheads that Drink there on Sundays...??

It would be interesting to get feedback here on the subject:

What is the difference between a Redneck and a Fascist ?

Cold stomper

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This pub is cool and now has more customers than ever...

19.02.2010 02:14

The Elephants Head has a great atmosphere and is now busier than ever. Excellent ; )

Camden

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