Campaign to "Make the Pope Pay. No state funded visit to the UK"
Anon [Found from Vegan Miranda Pandaqueen 's Twitter] | 08.02.2010 20:08 | Culture | Repression | Social Struggles | South Coast | World
Pope Benedict will be visiting the UK to the delight of the Nations's Catholics. However not all are impressed. A campaign has been launched to "Make The Pope Pay" as we have picked up from Vegan Miranda Pandaqueen's Twitter. They are saying that the taxpayer should not have to foot the bill for the Pope's visit including policing or security. They say the Pope and Catholic Church should pay.
Anon [Found from Vegan Miranda Pandaqueen 's Twitter]
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Pope led cover-up of child abuse by priests
08.02.2010 20:43
In 2001, while he was a cardinal, he issued a secret Vatican edict to Catholic bishops all over the world, instructing them to put the Church's interests ahead of child safety.
The document recommended that rather than reporting sexual abuse to the relevant legal authorities, bishops should encourage the victim, witnesses and perpetrator not to talk about it. And, to keep victims quiet, it threatened that if they repeat the allegations they would be excommunicated.
Anon
Pope has spoken out against factory farming and for AR activists against farming
08.02.2010 21:15
anon
but..
08.02.2010 21:38
And why should my tax money pay for his visit? I am not catholic. And it is not as though the catholic church is strapped for cash now is it.
another anon
DON#T LET HIM IN
08.02.2010 21:56
PROTEST
@ anon
08.02.2010 21:56
Matthew
Miranda hates ALL Popes and didn't know this one was paedophile..
08.02.2010 22:42
anon
Fascist anti-Catholic zealots confuse matters and belittle the abused
08.02.2010 23:05
Sometimes teachers or people in children's homes abuse children, this does not mean that they ALL do it.
I think fascist anti Pope / any Pope attitudes belittle the effects of institutional abuse on children when it occurs.
Catholic
steer clear of above call
08.02.2010 23:11
Ste
It's his flying arrangements that annoy. {Fuck bigots like Miranda Kill Popes}
08.02.2010 23:19
annon
Fuck The Pope
09.02.2010 01:17
The Catholic Church is a bigoted, homophobic, intolerant institution that has been responsible for millions of deaths over the years. I can't believe anyone could defend it, especially not the leader of the hierarchy. Why should we tolerate intolerance? And why the fuck should my tax-payer's money go to some crazy guy who talks to his pretend friend in the sky?
That's not to say any of the other religions are any better, they are all as bad as each other.
And it's not to say followers of the religion are all bad people. Hell, some of my best friends are Catholic :-P
anon
The pope is a c**t
09.02.2010 01:50
Rod
odd
09.02.2010 08:46
there were no calls for a block on state funded visits then.
yet when the leader of the world's billion strong roman catholics, a man who embraces and embodies peace, holiness and integrity plans to come to britain, all the nations anarcho-bigots come swarming out in a frenzy like wasps.
palao
state visits
09.02.2010 09:44
actually there was a massive protest against Bush when he came and we toppled a statue of him on Trafalgar Square and every time anyone from the Chinese state is invited there are many pro-Tibet protesters. So there's nothing odd at all here. When nasty people with blood on their hands are our guests we make them feel 'welcome'. x
sp
Re: odd
09.02.2010 10:08
There are numerous war criminals who have visited the UK and have had the welcomes they deserve:-
and more recently:-
grassroots
Re: steer clear of above call
09.02.2010 10:18
So the pope is black now? Your cries of 'xenophobia' seem reminiscent of zionists who cry 'antisemitism' against all those who oppose ethnic cleansing. There are plenty of people in Italy who actively oppose the vatican; currently the catholic church are trying to ban a new pill which would make abortions less invasive and traumatic and there are many Italians who are fighting to oppose this. The catholic church is a patriotic male-dominated entity who clearly want women to suffer for their 'sins'. Unfortunately, like the mafia the catholic church has a great deal of political power in Italy. They are a corrupt and authoritarian organisation who should be opposed at every opportunity.
grassroots
re grassroots
09.02.2010 11:12
as for all the criticisms of the church that have been tagged onto the initial post, none of these things were cited by the original poster as reasons as to why people should support no taxpayer funding for the pope's visit.
in fact the poster didn't give any reason at all.
the roll call of dubious, questionable xenophobic and bigoted allegations that attempt to scape goat the pope and hold the current pope for the shortcomings, mistakes and errors of judgement of individuals within the church going back generations, have actually been added by subsequent commentators.
re abortion, while I personally support it in limited circumstances for genuine medical reasons provided there is no pain to the foetus or harm to the mother. however, no better example of the topsy turvey 'good is bad, bad is good' logic found above can be found in your own comment which attempts to paint people and an organisation that opposes the incomprehendably painful torture and murder of unborn children, and campaigns for their protection, as the villain. aren't progressives supposed to be on the side of the oppressed and the voiceless? or have we given up on that, and just turned our attention to mindless anti-catholic and anti-pope hate mongering?
the rc church is the world's largest charitable organisation. the world would be a poorer place without it.
re above
To all you God botherers,
09.02.2010 12:04
As for the pope, that abuse hiding, life destroying ridiculous pervert, fuck him and all who support him including you animal rights hypocritic supporters, your all doomed.
ps Hiltler loved animals (and was a committed catholic by the way) does that mean we should forgive him for his crimes?
No Gods
No Masters
@narchist
Homepage:
http://God is Dead.com
re: @narchist
09.02.2010 12:40
hitler may have been a catholic at one time - but catholics were rounded up along with all other dissenters in nazi germany and the catholics played vital roles in much of the underground - especially poland.
the Pope's visit to the u.k is his right as a religious leader - same for the dali lama and all other world faith leaders - you don't believe - fine, you'll have a few days in september free when others are making plans to do something!
indymedia is for anyone who is concerned about the issues - globalisation, the gap between rich and poor and the environment are all things which the catholic church are concerned with and the pope is a tierless traveller trying to get these issues addressed.
no one can defend child abuse or its cover up - and personally i don't agree with the pope's position on condoms or on the role of women in the church - but personally i welcome his visit and will do my best to be there.
dannyl
as if...
09.02.2010 12:46
George Bush & Tony Bliar were also tireless travellers, trying to put right the injustices of the world.
And if you believe the statement that the head of a worldwide hierarchy give a shit about anyone but themselves then you are seriously deluded.
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@ dannyl
09.02.2010 13:16
No one is discounting catholics as people here, just pointing out that you support a powerful and corrupt organisation who systematically covered up child sexual abuse and have been the main cause of the spread of HIV and AIDS throughout Africa. The world would be a better place without catholicism.
"the Pope's visit to the u.k is his right as a religious leader - same for the dali lama and all other world faith leaders"
Has the dalai lama covered up child sexual abuse and caused the spread of HIV and AIDS throughout Africa causing tens of millons to die?
Furthermore why are you coming to Indymedia? You clearly have fuck all in common with this community and don't usually frequent this neck of the woods. Astroturfing?
A
lie after lie after lie
09.02.2010 15:19
A lie, they do not even appear in the top 25, despite their astronomical wealth (accumulated by force over centuries I should add):-
"the incomprehendably painful torture and murder of unborn children"
Another lie, there is no scientific consensus whatsoever that foetuses feel pain before 24 weeks and much evidence to suggest otherwise:-
"the roll call of dubious, questionable xenophobic and bigoted allegations that attempt to scape goat the pope"
"anti catholic bigotry, xenophobia and racism"
As someone already mentioned: "the pope is black now?" and "There are plenty of people in Italy who actively oppose the vatican".
Snoop
Re: lie after lie after lie
09.02.2010 15:23
hail mary
pope on a rope, wash away all yer sins!
09.02.2010 17:23
C'mon snap out of it.
Yeah I think you're right @narchist it's probably the same person - but you know what? there's hundreds of millions who think like that and they're pumping up to stuff the 'non-believers' just like the other mind controlled religeous nuts.
Constantine
mobilise
10.02.2010 10:37
In Ireland women are even now denied the right to control over their own bodies, and in our relatively recent history women that were pregnant and unmarried, mentally ill, "sexually promiscuous", etc etc were locked up for life with the full knowledge of the catholic church in the notorious Magdalene laundries (there were also some in the uk too). Not to mention the current revelations of the systemic sexual abuse that was perpetrated and covered up by the church in ireland.
I agree that religious tolerance is important, but that should not stop us criticising and challenging the oppressive nature of many organised religions and their domination of culture and societal values, especially catholicism, as anarchists it is our duty.
anarchafeminist survivor of catholicism
Not everyone on here is an anarchist...and many Pope haters are nazi fascists
10.02.2010 17:05
anon
To the APP Vegan Miranda Panda "The aliens and 12 foot lizards are here"
10.02.2010 17:12
anon
dodgy pontiffs
10.02.2010 17:31
Check out what happened to Oscar Romero...
There are so, so, so many reasons why we should be out on the streets protesting against the Pope and all he stands for.
unnecessary
Vatican radio banned Novartis over contraception.
10.03.2010 05:41
anon
FUCK the pope
26.12.2011 13:40
FUCK the pope
FUCK the pope
FUCK the pope
FUCK the pope
and all those goddamn priests child molesters
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