Indymedia being manipulated by Searchlight - Troll Alert
Durruti02 | 28.01.2010 11:44 | Indymedia | Repression | Social Struggles | Liverpool
Indymedia is being maniplulated by Searchlight - since when did anarchists demand the state bans political activity, however reactionary, as we know it impacts more on us than the far right -
Indymedia it would seem has for some time now been being manipulated by Searchlight via one individual who use's multiple tags - Mista Journalist/Lozza/Trolldestroya/Harpic/Robesphere/Demmy God/Troll Deflator /Dangermoose etc etc and most recently Demestos (see http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/01/445235.html) This may well be Nick Lowles or may well just be some daft or dangerous hanger on
On the excellent Pits and Pots http://pitsnpots.co.uk/news/2009/12/english-defence-league-march-stoke ( scroll down to 21/12 15.10 ) this individual uses the tag of Searchlight Fan and claims " Searchlight are a trusted source of information on the British fascist scene, and Lancaster Unity are also great! "
Almost half of all posts on EDL are from this character and they post on almost every other thread, and regularly try to shut down discussion from anyone who has a different POV by shouting TROLL and posting pictures of Trolls
Most active anti-fascists know that Searchlight has both connections with the state ( See Larry O'Hara's work to expose them http://www.searchlight.org.uk/o-hara/index.html ) or speak to any leeds anti fascists who were screwed by Searchlight chief organiser Nick Lowles over the World In Action affair.
But sometimes their politics is ignored. Searchlight are utterly within Stalinist ideology that states that fascism is an aberation (and not as anarchist would argue a varient of capitalism) and a response to fascism is to defend 'democracy' and that means uniting with anyone, the Tories, New Labour and the state and the police against fascists.
So it was Searchlight who called for the ban on EDL in Luton and the state responded with a ban on ALL public demonstrations, that if Vauxhalls workers had needed to demonstrate then, would have banned them too.
And the multi-named Searchlight plant on Indymedia is also playing a game - a game that will backfire on anarchists more than the EDL
the argument s/he uses is that
- the EDL are violent , racist, hooligan, law-breakers, and now 'use terror tactics' i.e. are terrorists
Now, take out racist, and the rest of the accusations are exactly what the politicians use against anarchists/activists
And so what does Demestos/Harpic/TrollDestroya want?
Well apart from attacking anyone with a different POV on fighting fascism they argue for
- More police on the street and state bans!!!
It seems just as Choudary and EDL are part of a game to increase state powers so is Troll Destroya/Demestos and all his or her multi personalities
As i have argued in
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/01/445118.html
and http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/knee-jerk-anti-fascism-and-the-edl/
these tactics do not work in destroying fascism, are not revolutionary and are indeed simply dangerously and deeply reactionary
They have no place on Indymedia or what Indymedia ought to be ;)
On the excellent Pits and Pots http://pitsnpots.co.uk/news/2009/12/english-defence-league-march-stoke ( scroll down to 21/12 15.10 ) this individual uses the tag of Searchlight Fan and claims " Searchlight are a trusted source of information on the British fascist scene, and Lancaster Unity are also great! "
Almost half of all posts on EDL are from this character and they post on almost every other thread, and regularly try to shut down discussion from anyone who has a different POV by shouting TROLL and posting pictures of Trolls
Most active anti-fascists know that Searchlight has both connections with the state ( See Larry O'Hara's work to expose them http://www.searchlight.org.uk/o-hara/index.html ) or speak to any leeds anti fascists who were screwed by Searchlight chief organiser Nick Lowles over the World In Action affair.
But sometimes their politics is ignored. Searchlight are utterly within Stalinist ideology that states that fascism is an aberation (and not as anarchist would argue a varient of capitalism) and a response to fascism is to defend 'democracy' and that means uniting with anyone, the Tories, New Labour and the state and the police against fascists.
So it was Searchlight who called for the ban on EDL in Luton and the state responded with a ban on ALL public demonstrations, that if Vauxhalls workers had needed to demonstrate then, would have banned them too.
And the multi-named Searchlight plant on Indymedia is also playing a game - a game that will backfire on anarchists more than the EDL
the argument s/he uses is that
- the EDL are violent , racist, hooligan, law-breakers, and now 'use terror tactics' i.e. are terrorists
Now, take out racist, and the rest of the accusations are exactly what the politicians use against anarchists/activists
And so what does Demestos/Harpic/TrollDestroya want?
Well apart from attacking anyone with a different POV on fighting fascism they argue for
- More police on the street and state bans!!!
It seems just as Choudary and EDL are part of a game to increase state powers so is Troll Destroya/Demestos and all his or her multi personalities
As i have argued in
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/01/445118.html
and http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/knee-jerk-anti-fascism-and-the-edl/
these tactics do not work in destroying fascism, are not revolutionary and are indeed simply dangerously and deeply reactionary
They have no place on Indymedia or what Indymedia ought to be ;)
Durruti02
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