Active fascists in the EDL
Frankie | 16.01.2010 18:17 | Analysis | Anti-racism
In the run-up to the English Defence League's latest provocation in Stoke-on-Trent, they claim more loudly than ever that they are not a racist/fascist organisation, as they continue their propaganda campaign. However, the real nature of the EDL is never far from the surface, as inspecting their forum quickly reveals.
BUA blackshirts on a march - wonder which the EDL member is?
Here the spotlight falls on some of the EDL's more openly fascist members:
"Pino" - Merseyside neo-nazi, real name Liam, a frequent poster on Stormfront under the name Pino 88 (88=HH= Heil Hitler) - he dropped the 88 on the EDL forum in an attempt to conceal his nazi affiliations. He's argued with other EDL members about race, against courting non-white members etc. An out-and-out white supremacist.
"White Rage" : This one describes himself as a “proud english nationalist”, despite living in Wales. He's fighting for race and nation, apparently...this seems to mostly involve running a nazi blog at
http://lonewolves88.blogspot.com/, which heavily promotes EDL along with general nazi shite, plus white-survivalist wank-fantasy stuff. The "88" in the blog's title is another giveaway, as is its link to the neo-nazi grouplet "British Freedom Fighters".
"Mike266" - The laughable "Wigan Mike", a figure of fun on the tiny ultra-right scene; recently arrested on terrorism charges (see : http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/12/443645.html) The EDL barred him from the forum after his terror arrest, as it's not the sort of publicity they like! He usually posts on the internet as NSMIKE266, dropping the "NS" (which indicates "National Socialist") on the EDL forum in another oh-so-clever attempt not to appear fascist.
"RobBUAfb" - A frequent EDL forum contributor; a representative of the British Ulster Alliance Flute Band, an ultra-loyalist sect in Northern Ireland, which has links with the Ulster Defence Association, the BNP and a number of other dubious far-right groups. Like to play the role of textbook fascists perfectly, dressing up in their lovely black paramilitary uniforms and marching (see the photo).
There are also a large number of forum members and contributors who are members or supporters of the BNP, despite the fact that the BNP claim to disown anyone who is involved in the EDL, and the EDL claim to be nothing to do with the BNP. Prominent BNP supporters on the EDL forum include “White Guy”, THE DOG”, “Lord Rose”, “Casual Stokie”, “bellevueace”, “Made in England”, “2 Fast”, “Cythraul”, “Proud English Londoner”, “Arrylad”, “Redsquirrel”, and “Stoke City FC”.
In fact, “Stoke City FC ” proudly claims “Ive marched through the main asian part of Stoke with the Stoke lads and chanted B BNP “ and “Most EDL supporters will vote BNP, and all the Stoke lads that will turn up on 23rd Jan will be BNP, if not all then defo 99%.” As we can assume that “Stoke City FC” has links with the Stoke football casuals and the N40 hooligans, it seems a fair bet that the Stoke football mob are strongly BNP-linked.
It's fair to point out that the EDL forum does also include people who state very clearly that they are not racist, and do not support the BNP; however, much of this seems to be about wanting to shut up about BNP sympathies for the sake of the EDL's image, rather than due to serious political differences (although like in any movement, those political differences certainly exist). It's also very clear that the volume of general anti-muslim ranting on the forum is, unsurprisingly, sky-high.
So, despite the EDL's continued PR offensive, it seems clear that their organisation is riddled with fascists, and the general mood “in the ranks” is much, much less palatable than the EDL propaganda guys would like us to believe. The people of Stoke-on-Trent will not be looking forward to the EDL invasion of their town next week.
"Pino" - Merseyside neo-nazi, real name Liam, a frequent poster on Stormfront under the name Pino 88 (88=HH= Heil Hitler) - he dropped the 88 on the EDL forum in an attempt to conceal his nazi affiliations. He's argued with other EDL members about race, against courting non-white members etc. An out-and-out white supremacist.
"White Rage" : This one describes himself as a “proud english nationalist”, despite living in Wales. He's fighting for race and nation, apparently...this seems to mostly involve running a nazi blog at
http://lonewolves88.blogspot.com/, which heavily promotes EDL along with general nazi shite, plus white-survivalist wank-fantasy stuff. The "88" in the blog's title is another giveaway, as is its link to the neo-nazi grouplet "British Freedom Fighters". "Mike266" - The laughable "Wigan Mike", a figure of fun on the tiny ultra-right scene; recently arrested on terrorism charges (see :
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/12/443645.html) The EDL barred him from the forum after his terror arrest, as it's not the sort of publicity they like! He usually posts on the internet as NSMIKE266, dropping the "NS" (which indicates "National Socialist") on the EDL forum in another oh-so-clever attempt not to appear fascist. "RobBUAfb" - A frequent EDL forum contributor; a representative of the British Ulster Alliance Flute Band, an ultra-loyalist sect in Northern Ireland, which has links with the Ulster Defence Association, the BNP and a number of other dubious far-right groups. Like to play the role of textbook fascists perfectly, dressing up in their lovely black paramilitary uniforms and marching (see the photo).
There are also a large number of forum members and contributors who are members or supporters of the BNP, despite the fact that the BNP claim to disown anyone who is involved in the EDL, and the EDL claim to be nothing to do with the BNP. Prominent BNP supporters on the EDL forum include “White Guy”, THE DOG”, “Lord Rose”, “Casual Stokie”, “bellevueace”, “Made in England”, “2 Fast”, “Cythraul”, “Proud English Londoner”, “Arrylad”, “Redsquirrel”, and “Stoke City FC”.
In fact, “Stoke City FC ” proudly claims “Ive marched through the main asian part of Stoke with the Stoke lads and chanted B BNP “ and “Most EDL supporters will vote BNP, and all the Stoke lads that will turn up on 23rd Jan will be BNP, if not all then defo 99%.” As we can assume that “Stoke City FC” has links with the Stoke football casuals and the N40 hooligans, it seems a fair bet that the Stoke football mob are strongly BNP-linked.
It's fair to point out that the EDL forum does also include people who state very clearly that they are not racist, and do not support the BNP; however, much of this seems to be about wanting to shut up about BNP sympathies for the sake of the EDL's image, rather than due to serious political differences (although like in any movement, those political differences certainly exist). It's also very clear that the volume of general anti-muslim ranting on the forum is, unsurprisingly, sky-high.
So, despite the EDL's continued PR offensive, it seems clear that their organisation is riddled with fascists, and the general mood “in the ranks” is much, much less palatable than the EDL propaganda guys would like us to believe. The people of Stoke-on-Trent will not be looking forward to the EDL invasion of their town next week.
Frankie
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Stoke
16.01.2010 19:13
Billy boy
More propaganda
16.01.2010 19:19
Claire
possibly
16.01.2010 19:21
stoven
Gossip
16.01.2010 19:24
Sarah
Obsessed
16.01.2010 19:30
Little john
EDL wrong uns
16.01.2010 19:56
twats. cant wait to throw some bottles of piss at them in stoke.
harold of free enterprise
so this is what the working class get up to?
16.01.2010 21:44
join up with various fash / anti-fash teams, flag wave and taunt each other. drink bear. announce they are going to turn up somewhere and show the other team's fans that they will get a good kicking etc. The usual bollox that everyone has to fund and police.
thank god i'm not working class, it makes me sick just thinking about it!
kilo
why are they acting like ulster orange men...the drums and uniforms etc etc etc
16.01.2010 21:49
anon
More info on loyalist/ fascist links
16.01.2010 22:12
The summary was written a few years ago, but it gives a good background. The BUA and their links to British fascists are included.
Irish
Think about this
16.01.2010 23:00
If it wasn't for the EDL you could be on the next level of Warcraft
Che
On a string
16.01.2010 23:06
You jump when they say jump.
You are their pets
They only do these marches to wind up up,and you bite every time
kilo
Numbers
16.01.2010 23:20
Antifa
To Che
17.01.2010 00:02
Gee
Oh dear
17.01.2010 02:52
Luther Blisset
not b.n.p
17.01.2010 04:10
your scrapping the barrel with this stunt.
The E.D.L are not the Flipping B .N.P dose not matter how many times you tell your lies or shout fascist no one beliefs your communist crap.
Has a none political group they let anyone join who is against extremist Islam who supports Labour .who they blame for the mess of the country .
There no denying there B.N.P members in the group but that true democracy for you
you can support any politics or be any colour, creed. religion to be E. .D.L
Has for the guys up against the B.N.P members on the board and one of them its not
just because of the image it gives out but because we hate what the B.N.P stand for and dont want to be tarred with the same brush .
Most of the members and the mods will not let the B.N.P use the board for there propaganda that why there opposed or banned when they do.
Most of the people named in this article are banned
instead of making us out to be the enemy why dont you come out against the real enemy of the country you love the Islamic extremist
Charlie.
charle
a censored view of the world
17.01.2010 10:30
indymedia is a joke. It should be called jokemedia
it gives absolutely no true indication of what people have got to say
thats fine, but just dont bandy yourselves as a 'grassroots' in touch with the pulse of the community site, when you end up censoring what people have to say and are really just what the authors want to say.
joke
Banning
17.01.2010 11:39
Labour Government as well as other mistakes has neglected the white working classes and
unfortunately the rise of the EDL and BNP are the result.I'm not justifying either ,just high lighting the origins of their existance
Anon
Risen from the dead
17.01.2010 12:30
bandora etrog
Priceless
17.01.2010 12:42
Luther Blisset
Democracy is Dead
17.01.2010 13:22
The root cause is to ban the people or stop their benefits (so they have to spend time doing a job)
Basically, this andy guy has too much times on his hands so why we are paying him benefits i will never know
dwain
More EDL misfits
17.01.2010 14:14
simon
Islamic terrorism and extremism is a very real threat!
17.01.2010 16:28
9/11 and 7/7 were NOT inside jobs!
barthnotes
17.01.2010 16:48
tails
@anon
17.01.2010 20:34
Joey boy
edl forum
17.01.2010 23:02
macdanger
Are there any women here!!???
18.01.2010 00:54
tails
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