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A Good Year For The EDL? Probably Not

Malatesta | 24.12.2009 11:31 | Anti-racism | World

So this is Christmas and what have you done? Well, despite wanting to ‘stop Islamic Extremism’ which they do not seem to have done, the English Defence League have managed to ring up a huge police bill, had many arrests, got their mugs on Sky News and, well, that’s it.


“We have one single purpose, to throw out Islamic extremists and to stop shari'ah law courts.” Err… that’s 2 mate.

A Brief History of The EDL
The EDL had its seeds in the 24th May, 2009 Luton demonstration when the ‘United People of Luton’ counter demonstrated against ‘Islamic radicals’ at the homecoming parade of the Royal Anglian Regiment. That the Islamic protest was foolish and insulting to a lot of people and didn’t really do much is not in dispute. However, the event and its subsequent publicity sparked off the formation of the EDL, SDL, WDL, Casuals United and the Stop Islamification Of Europe groups all of whom are seemingly interchangeable and appear to have associations with the BNP, BPP and other far right fantasists. Luton Result: 3 arrests but much publicity. They followed this with a series of small demonstrations in London which did not amount to much. Their next event was in Birmingham on 8th August which was a shambles with the EDL even admitting that “everybody now knows that the turnout for this Demo was very poor.” Result: 35 arrests. They followed this one up with another Brum protest in September. Result: 90 arrests.

Manchester created the model that has been repeated on all their demos since, mainly massive police presence, large counter-demonstration and much publicity. The result: £800,000 policing bill, 10 injuries (including man bitten by dog) and 44 arrests. The EDL’s media coup in Leeds was a major provocation given the size of the local Asian community. Result: a huge police presence costing £375,000 and 8 arrests. At the same time their ‘southern divisions’ organised a counter-demonstration in London against a radical Islamic faction who pulled out after threats were made. This achieved relatively little but was noteworthy for one incident which has been reported in at least 3 different versions. What we do know is that Combat 18 members and some EDL ended up in a pub fight with a C18 member being hospitalised: C18 say he was hit with a fire extinguisher; EDL say he “was seriously injured running into traffic as he fled the scene” which was “an unfortunate end”; whilst others claim it was little more than inter-firm rivalry spilling over. Result: a giant headache for C18 and serious schisms between the EDL and far-right.

In November, the Welsh Defence League (comprising mainly of Bolton Wanderers fans it seems) organised a fiasco in Wrexham. Only 40 turned up to shout, sing God Save the Queen badly and wave a St. George flag about to little effect. Result: 4 arrests and many perplexed locals. Their previous Welsh adventure was similarly farcical and fractious:
“Of 120 people that turned up in Swansea, a large number were Nazi Skinheads, who basically hijacked the demo, wouldn’t be told not to Sieg Heil or chant "BNP" and seemed intent on ruining it for us.”

Their forays north of the border have been equally maladroit. In Glasgow they claimed their demo was “a big success - over 120 lads from various Scottish clubs who were previously enemies came together for a demo.” Anyone who has attended a political demonstration would know that 120 hardly amounts to “a big success.” According to Casuals United:
“Large groups of SDL were detained at both Perth, Dundee AND Edinburg [both?] were detained and prevented from travelling to Glasgow, and main English lads were visited by Strathclyde police and warned off from travelling to Scotland.”

The Nottingham demonstration proved to be costly and eventful. The police kettled the EDL in a pub and then moved them up near the castle where they were closely contained. The documentation shows the EDL and cops jostling each other and the EDL urinating on the castle walls. Result: £1/2 million police bill, 11 arrests and a pissy castle. Their next demo is in Stoke will no doubt prove costly and violent: the BNP have a strong council presence and much local support; Stoke City’s firm the Naughty 40 are likely to get involved; on top of which is added the inevitable counter-demonstration and heavy police presence. Likely result: massive police bill and many arrests.

What Have They Achieved?
Very little. Apart from getting nicked, drunk, photographed or all 3. That the EDL is little more than an ego-trip for many pissed, fight hungry hooligans is difficult to dispute and it is important to understand the media role in all this. We live in a highly mediated world and for anyone to impact on that media is an ego boost. That the EDL go out for a daft laugh and a piss up is beyond argument but there is the added attraction of getting their faces in the newspapers or on TV. For marginalised characters like the EDL, this kind of recognition asserts their delusion that they are someone, that their behaviour somehow has meaning and it is something to show off about in the pub. This is not exclusive to the EDL but to most people who have had a modicum of publicity and their 15 minutes of fame. It is no secret that hooligans collect newspaper cuttings about their activities but these can also be detrimental as Steve Hickmott and ‘Ginger Terry’ Last found at the Chelsea Headhunters trial in the 1980s when Hicky’s scrapbooks and Last’s diaries where used as evidence against them. Cuttings are collected about fights at football matches and other such notorious incidents and the EDL demos will be no different.

The attraction of the EDL for some is not hard to see: a day out with the lads, a good drink and the possibility of a ruck with the cops or the opposition or both. The EDL is made up of football firms and sundry far right characters who suspend their rivalries for a common cause. It is extremely difficult to organise inter-firm fights with the Football Intelligence Unit and surveillance so this ‘legitimate political protest’ gives them a venue and an excuse for a bit of a do.

Whilst the EDL claims to be “peacefully protesting against Islamic extremism” the reality is somewhat different as the above proves. The EDL inevitably end up in confrontation with the cops and cause trouble wherever they go. They blame this on the opposition but as the video evidence, photographs and facts show, very few anti-racists are arrested and the counter demonstrators are in response to EDL provocation and they know it. Wherever they go they will be opposed and it stands to reason that if they are not around, neither are the counter-demonstrators. To blame others for being angered by their provocation is bizarre. The EDL attempt to take over other people’s cities, cause violence and abuse locals who then have to pay for the pleasure. There may be a few local fans in attendance but the majority of EDL are not local. And they wonder why people don’t like their protests?

The EDL claim that they are not ‘Nazis’ and that they attempt to stop Sieg Heiling on the demonstrations. That this has been unsuccessful is obvious from all the photographs. They counter-claim that these images are not true but this clearly does not wash.

The EDL maintain a vigilant web-presence and quickly respond to anti-EDL postings to deny that they are fascist or racist. Whilst this may be true of some of the organisers the fact that Nazis and openly racist blokes turn up on their demos is undisputable. Neither is the fact that they cause trouble, huge bills and general disruption beyond doubt.

Conclusion
So what next for the EDL? Stoke and Dudley and several other towns have been marked down for demos in the new year which will no doubt prove costly and chaotic. They will continue to feud with some on the far right whilst others support them. They will continue to deny they are racist or Nazis despite obvious fascist presence. And they will continue to be opposed by many who will not tolerate their provocation and abuse, their attempts to takeover their cities and being left with a large police bill.
Happy Holidays
‘Malatesta’

Malatesta

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Yeah the EDL have achieved nothing

24.12.2009 14:23

Yeah we've achieved nothing. If by nothing you mean highlighting the dangers of Islamic Extremism to the rest of Britain, giving the general public who worry about and suffer from street jihad and extremism a chance to voice their concerns, holding a number of successful demos that started out featuring a few hundred members to over 1500 as at Nottingham and making the UAF constantly shoot themselves in the foot time and time again to such an extent that where they once got over a thousand members to oppose us they now barely manage to scrape together a few hundred.

If that's classed as a failure of a year for the English Defence League then I hope we "fail" next year as well ;)


Merry Christmas sunshine, see you in Stoke!

Zefiris EDL


disagree

24.12.2009 14:33

EDL have grown for a handful at Brum to the amount we saw at Nottingham.We are kidding ourselves we think this isnt a real threat

antifa


Nottingham?

24.12.2009 18:33

If you're really 'antifa' rather than EDL/state pretending to be, you clearly weren't in Nottingham. There were a lot less EDL than in Manchester which was probably the height of their fame.

Observer


for fucks sake

24.12.2009 19:22

CAN WE PLEASE FORGET THE EDL? THEY ARE PATHETIC YOBS, INCAPABLE OF BACKING UP ANY OF THEIR BELIEFS WITH ANYTHING CLOSELY RESEMBLING RATIONAL/LOGICAL/REASONABLE ARGUMENTS!! for fucks sake....ITS REALLY BORING NOW. WE'LL BE THERE TO CHASE THEM AWAY, WHATS MORE TO BE DISCUSSED?!

bored house wife


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HA!

24.12.2009 19:47

God, you really do like to spread shit everywhere dont you.
We never thought we could stop Islamic Extremists & Shari'ah Courts in a Year...
You really need to have a re-think of us.

It makes me laugh all the shite that's posted on this website.

"Indymedia" are any of you actually Indys? because all the Indys i know are totally different to what you lot make out to be.

Embarrassment to England.

EDL


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boredhousewife?

24.12.2009 19:54

"INCAPABLE OF BACKING UP ANY OF THEIR BELIEFS WITH ANYTHING CLOSELY RESEMBLING RATIONAL/LOGICAL/REASONABLE ARGUMENTS!! for fucks sake."

So you think bombing London is fine or terrorism is fine? and you think killing women and beating them to a pulp is fine because they had a "affair" but its okay for a man to do that how ever many time she likes...

Christ what's the world coming to, something shit if you think that's all fine.

EDL


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Numbers

25.12.2009 10:28

I'm shocked that their views attract so many people

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Nottingham

25.12.2009 10:43

Cant remember being chased in Nottingham
Stoke should be fun ,see you there hopefully.

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No you wont be able to chase us away!

25.12.2009 11:35

No you wont be able to chase us away, there will be thousands of us there in Stoke on January the 23rd so you wont stand a chance.

The only reason you people oppose us is because you all think that every Islamic terrorist atrocity was an inside job. You are idiots who refuse to believe that the world faces a very serious threat from Islamic terrorism that needs to be confronted!

EDL Stoke


on the subject of football hooligans

25.12.2009 17:41

seem to remember stoke being one of the firms first highlighted on a now unavilable video that first appeared with the emergence of casuals united. got them written down somewhere but not at hand so he be the ones i seem to recall.......
aston villa, wolves, stoke, cardiff, swansea, wrexham and newport (!). together with qpr and perhaps crystal palace.
if memory serves me right on all this the stoke crew had a significant presence of black lads amongst them.
whilst i myself would not over speculate the threat posed today by the radicalisation of the right just of the now don´t be overly dismissive as to the potential. they have picked an easy target to hit home upon......

nobody in particular


magnet

26.12.2009 07:29

About the numbers of EDL. Most ordinary people in the street aren't that aware of who/what the EDL are and some will have only just heard of them. (In Nottingham, I overheard plenty of passers-by asking each other what the EDL was.) So I think the same thing is happening among thicko racists. Word's getting about that there's a fascist bandwagon they can jump on and they are desparately willing to travel across the country to feel a part of something bigger than themselves. Although it may appear that EDL numbers are growing, I think it's just that existing racists are coming together under the EDL banner, which would explain their confused ideology. That's not to say that they can be safely ignored because united fascists ARE dangerous, but by exploiting the differences and rifts among them, their power can be diluted and made ineffective.

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Impotent

26.12.2009 09:32

You lot spend most of the time talking about what your going to do about EDL,
but can't do antthing about it

Leonidas


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Keep Dreaming

26.12.2009 10:05

With a pseudonym of Malatesta your obviously a fantasist

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Why Bother

26.12.2009 13:14

You lot couldn't stop a bus let alone the EDL from marching

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Worried

26.12.2009 13:33

I get may electricity from EDF should I switch

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some serious EDL

26.12.2009 19:24

trolling happenin right now. fuck off EDL trolls. for fucks sake. go away. we're not bothered about you.you're nothing.....we've got serious stuff to worry about, like liberating the planet, etc. not waffling on about yobs - whatever their ideology.

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Run it by me again

27.12.2009 09:42

And which part of the plant have you saved so far.Is it daddies holiday home in the cotswolds.

Malatesta


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Answer me this

27.12.2009 09:48

If your not bothered about the EDL why are the so many topics on this site about them,obsessed or what

Malatesta


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Explain

27.12.2009 12:12

Who are you liberating the planet from ?

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EDL

27.12.2009 12:23

They are matching in Stoke in the new year

Toby


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Dont be fooled

27.12.2009 12:31

Their methods are getting more and more sophisticated.The main body of them may be big thugs but the few at the top starting to use their grey matter

EDL snooper


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Just a thought

28.12.2009 12:56

They have high-lighted the dangers of Islamic extremists to the general non-political public

Markus


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Dont be complaciant

31.12.2009 10:21

Quite a bit of EDL graffitti in my area

antifa


Doing their work

01.01.2010 18:22

We play right into their hands by discussing them all the time

Anon


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