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Support For The Afghan Poppy Appeal Poster Defacement

Poppy | 31.10.2009 16:09 | Anti-militarism | Iraq | Other Press | South Coast | World

As the mainstream media outrage (from the likes of the Hate Mail and Torygraph) dies down, the voices of many people in the armed forces and others who support the posters new message starts to be heard.

Here are a selection of comments taken from the comments page on the Daily Mail...

posters should not have been touched however blair........
- william, torrevieja spain, 29/10/2009 13:15

We who've served in Afghanistan and Iraq salute those who have fallen. What we don't do is care much for Bliar. This man is a lying toe rag!
How dare he even be considered for EU President.
- Pete, Calne, United Kingdom, 29/10/2009 12:48


My sympathies to the RBL, though somehow, i think most of them would at least not condeme this, if not support it.
- Barry, woking, surrey, 29/10/2009 12:47


Yeah, as if anyone would be allowed to put up their own poster demanding Blair be prosecuted for war crimes?
- Wayland, Braintree Essex, 29/10/2009 12:46


Sorry, but as an ex Serviceman I do not consider it to be disrepectful to our troops, nor do I regard it as vandalism. Many of our brave Servicemen and Women have been, and are being, killed because of lying politicians. The least we can do to show our respect for the fallen is to honour their memory by giving them the Truth and Justice that has denied them for too long. Anything less will render their sacrifice as a Bloody waste.
- Macavity.English Ex Pat, Dandong. China, 29/10/2009 12:44


Comments from elsewhere include:


If they had defaced it by using language offensive to the forces then I would agree this was a new low, but I think the way they have done it is arguably justified. As one of the Mail reader comments says, this is the message the British Legion themselves should be putting out. Putting pressure on parliament to withdraw our troops would far better serve the troops, than getting people to wear poppies.
- dirtydog, Essex 29/10/2009 09:44


I gather that this has happened precisely once. Other posters have been amended to read "For their sake, bring them home." which seems an entirely reasonable amendment.
- 29/10/2009 10:45


I'm anti war. Trouble is in this mixed up world of corrupt ***holes ignoring you, sometimes you've got to do ****ish things to get heard. This is one of those things, I'm not saying it was a good thing to do, but people need to be heard.
- 29/10/2009 10:45


I can't see what's so low about what they've done. I think it's low that our politicans are sending naive young men to die and get there arms and legs blown off in wars they haven't got the balls to fight themselves. I guarentee you that if the politcians/daily mail journalists who keep telling us it's in a national interests to stay in Afghanistan had to go on the frontline and risk there own lives they'd soon change there minds about whether its in the nations interest..
- 29/10/2009 10:45


Many more comments supporting either the action or the sentiment can be found on the Army Rumour Service website...


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:22 am
Author: tropper66 Location: cardiff
Underworld_Guitar_Hero:
Anti-War Protesters Deface Poster

I dont like the disrespect shown but I like the Idea of Teflon Tony at a War crimes court


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:25 am
Author: Tango
Whilst I disagree (of course) with the defacing of the poster, I don't disagree with either the way it was done, or the message it is now conveying.

As far as graffiti/vandalism goes, it's not disrespectful, and it's not saying anything that a lot of ARRSE members aren't thinking. But as I said, I'm not condoning the vandalism.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:42 am
Author: PrinceAlbert
I quite like it.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:46 am
Author: Oil_Slick Location: Neue Europa

While the method may be wrong, the message is right.

I for one would be very happy to see BLiar on trial at the Hague.

Alas, we never will. I suspect a large part of B'Liars desire to become President of Europe is driven by the fact that it would grant him Diplomatic Immunity from prosecution.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:55 am
Author: classic
May be a lot of people think that tony blair should be accountable for his actions, But for protestors to deface a poster of a mother anda little boy who have lost their loved one fighting for queen and country and were only raising awareness highlighting the poppy appeal 'For their sake wear a poppy.' for all the brave soldiers who lost their lives and been injured etc in previous and past conflicts and their families.

The protestors were totally disrespectful to this lady and her family and all the brave soldiers who lost their lives and been injured etc in previous and past conflicts and their families.

The protestors should apologize for the hurt and disrespect they have caused .


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:59 am
Author: vvaannmmaann
Very cleverly done.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:01 am
Author: Oil_Slick Location: Neue Europa
MrShanklysboots:
Very cleverly done. However, here's a thought.

Pay for your own fecking advert rather than hijack that of a charity that is advertising their greatest collection time of the year.

Don't agree… this has given a huge boost to the Legions profile and campaign IMO.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:02 am
Author: Hakagure Location: Fit Like Toon
I agree with the sentiment.

I don't agree with the method though.

You dont HAVE to deface a poster such as this to get that message across, if they are that keen for people to hear their viewpoint pay for your own fcuking poster. Not going to jump on the outrage bus as such but I just think that remembrance posters such as this one should be above being used in this way.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:03 am
Author: MrShanklysboots Location: Just off to the side of the fight.
classic:

The protestors should apologize for the hurt and disrespect they have caused .
You should apologize for constantly re registering on this site Chubb.
Go away. For ever.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:05 am
Author: Flymo Location: Malta
Oil_Slick:
MrShanklysboots:
Very cleverly done. However, here's a thought.

Pay for your own fecking advert rather than hijack that of a charity that is advertising their greatest collection time of the year.

Don't agree… this has given a huge boost to the Legions profile and campaign IMO.

Time to fall off the fence on this one.
I believe that this is a win win here. At the end of the day, any publicity is better than no publicity.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:30 am
Author: bullet_catcher
My tuppenceworth - disapprove of vandalism, it has cost me plenty recently, and someone will have to pay to fix the poster. It is a clever piece of work though, so may be copied elsewhere, resulting in more expense. This act of vandalism will make me make an extra donation to help with repairs, so if others feel the same way, the Poppy Appeal could end up with a net profit.

Tony Blair lied to us, so he should have resigned or been punished for that. To define this incident in terms of New Labour morality, an Evil Big Person who got away with something bad has forced a Nice Small Person to break the law, so the Nice Small Person is a victim who should get counselling, compensation &c &c.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:37 am
Author: Queensman Location: Tangier
Sorry, but I think it's brilliant! Inspired, even.

When I saw 'Legion poster defaced' I was already half on the Outrage bus ready to call for the unleashing of the hounds of hell...... But having seen the poster, first I laughed, then I nodded in agreement. Now I will make a copy and promulgate it as widely as I can.

I say these things as a member of the Royal British Legion, as a poppy collector etc etc.

I feel sorry for the family concerned, the last thing they'd want or need is to be bathed in limelight about all this - however, having lost a son because of the reprehensible Mr Bliar's duplicity, I wouldn't mind betting that they probably agree with the sentiment. If they don't, they should.

What will undoubtedly happen now is for all the 'easily offended' to completely over react and leap up and down and make an arrse of themselves as they did about that drunken prat who pished on a war memorial recently.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:10 am
Author: CaptainWillard Location: 75 clicks above the Do Lung bridge

Message says to me - 'Blair is responsible for the deaths of our country's finest so therefore prosecute the tw*t!'.

It doesn't come across as disrespectful to our soldiers, only to the chief lying politician that got us into the whole sorry mess in the first place and his lunatic successor who has woefully mis-managed it ever since.

As has already been said - it's only what many people have frequently stated on this site. At least now that opinion, has been broadcast to a wider audience.

CW

Quis Separabit

Vestigia Nulla Retrorsum

Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:14 am
Author: Queensman Location: Tangier
pombsen-armchair-warrior:
Much as I despise Blair, I absolutely despair of the incredibly naive conclusion that he is guilty of 'war crimes'. Sheer fantasy.

He is guilty, and hopefully will be publicly hung out to dry when his time in the dock comes, of illegally committing this country to an unjust war. He must shoulder the resposibility for causing the needless deaths of and injuries to those whom he sent.

In the same way that Mr Radavan Karadic don't actually drop the mortar bombs himself on Serbian Muslims, he, Bliar, ordered people to do something illegal, ergo, a War Crime.

Of course, all this could open up a huge can of worms. As you will doubtless know, it is also illegal to accept and obey an illegal order. Just how far down the Chain of Command will the buck stop rolling?


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:32 am
Author: Underworld_Guitar_Hero
Support for the War Veterens, injured or dead should be kept well away from Anti-War sentiment. While in its self a valid view and have made some relevent comments they do themselves a disservice by using such a forum. Will we go the way of the Animal Activists and start harrassing off duty soldiers and families putting graffiti on their cars because they do a job. Extreme I know but, Blair is even remotely connected to the RBL.

Its worth making the point that the family of the soldier have complained about this and are distressed by this despite someones opinion to the contrary!

Is Blair a war criminal I dont think so but, by all means go to the Hague and make your case!

It was clever though!! Shame they have no morals!!


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:01 pm
Author: tropper66 Location: cardiff
I am begining to think of it as an Enhancement rather than a Defacement


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:35 pm
Author: 5_mile_sniper Location: Basha'd up in the land of Buckfast & Burberry
Like many here I agree with the sentiment, but perhaps not the placement of the message.

It's also possible to agree with the message and not be "Anti-War". Whilst you would be hard pressed to class me as a pacifist, I do take issue with our soldiers being killed in pointless, possibly illegal wars, so that cnuts like Blair can strut it on the world stage.

The manner of the defacement is also pretty clever, and appears to have gained some PR for both the Antis and the Legion. Win-Win.


Re: Legion Posters Defaced!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:57 pm
Author: Kurtle
I think the only reason it's really wrong is because it has the faces of actual people on who have lost loved ones recently on. ...And the advert could mean less poppies sold.
I do agree with the powerful message though.

Poppy
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31.10.2009 16:34

Why all the dithering. Blair and Bush are responsible for thousands of death's and injuries. God Bless the Legion.
- Royal, Trowbridge, 29/10/2009 12:27


Well done, well said.
Hope to see more like it.
- simon, wells somerset, 29/10/2009 12:07


NO! it is`"NOT" a mark of Disrespect.! It is voicing the views of the majority of the `electorate that want "Blair" brought to book to face and answer serious charges to his mal-administration while in office as PM.. This government seems fit too ignore the wishes of the British people. Even MP's have tried to bring him to justice. So its not just the British people who seek justice and regdress against an self apinionated selfish. hipocrite!
AND SOME WANT THIS PERSON FOR EU PRESIDENT. Careful all, you might just get what you don't want.!
- Peter, Stoke, 29/10/2009 11:57


The British Legion said: 'We would say to whoever did this that we hope they feel they have had their bit of fun. We would never discuss the rights or wrongs of conflicts.'

To say "had their bit of fun" kind of misses the point. This does not seem a fun protest. It expressed the views of virtually every person I speak to. In fact, thinking about it, I do not know anyone who would disagree with it's sentiment, even if they were shocked by the defacing of the British Legion poster.

Blair still has not faced prosecution over his lies to Parliament and the people of this country which led to our participation in the war in Iraq. If my own circle of friends from various walks of life is representative then a move to arrest Blair and try him for war crimes would be supported by the vast majority of British citizens.

The comments of JR of Manchester speak volumes about the views of serving forces personel. I, like millions of other people will still buy the poppy.
- DG, Haywards Heath, 29/10/2009 11:56


While Blair and Bush are happily retired living the good life all the soldiers they sent to their death and their families deserve to see justice done and prosecute the pair for war crimes they did the same thing that Saddam did really, it's just alright because they were from DEMOCRATIC Countries. I know the British Legion do great work but it's got to be any port in a storm to bring this situation to a head, most people would agree about B AND B but nobody has a voice in this country, same as the EXPENCES scandal they will all get away with their crimes because of who they are. ABOVE THE LAW.
- Crafty Cookie, Doncaster England, 29/10/2009 11:52


I agree with them... Fair enough It is a bit disrespecting to the families but I think Blair has disrespected them way more...
- gooner4life, gERMLAND, 29/10/2009 11:51



Far from vandalising.....I would deem it enhancement. Well done and well intended, in my opinion.
- lomax, luton england, 29/10/2009 11:48


When people see phoney Tony strutting the world stage when brave young men are returning home in bodybags due to his lies .what do you expect, the people are angry to say the least .the defacement of a poster may be just the the start of the resentment and hatred felt by the people towards Tony the megalomaniac who seems to think he is above being brought account for his evil deeds,it should be noted that while the brave ;unequiped; soldiers including the Queen of England own grandson Harry have and are risking life and limb in a phoney (War???)on a daily basis where is Tonys sons in all this???STOP interfering in the politics of other countries GET the troops HOME and put your own house in order before its to late.
- mitchell, belfast ireland, 29/10/2009 11:40


I agree with them, Blair should be prosecuted but to deface a poster showing Blair's victims will not gain them any friends. There are limits as to what is acceptable and these protesters went beyond those limits and are no better than him. They should apologise to the widow and her son.
- Nancy, Norwich UK, 29/10/2009 11:39


Those who did this have no other way but to make the public aware that Tony the war monger Blair along with his doberman Bush should be both extradiated to the hague to face war crimes of course this will never happen we only go for those in countries not percieved as democratic but the fact of the matter is that these two powerful individuals told the world a pack of lies for there own gain. We only have to look at what deaths have happened in bagdad over the past week because these two murderers were determined to get Saddam it was clear he had nothing to do with 9/11 I hope that the widow of this brave young man who died in the line of duty will understand why this action was taken and if it means that all british servicemen and woman will be brought home it will be well worth it.
- ossie, Wirral UK, 29/10/2009 11:18


"Police are investigating. " That's the key phrase.. What are they investigating..
Freedom of Speech? Freedom of political opinion? Right to peaceful protest?
Go around any urban area and billboards are grafitti'd on and have posters and stickers on them. Do the police investigate those ? No. what this, because it reflects on this poor government so the police which, which have become the enforcement arm of this stalinist government policies.
- AW, Surrey, 29/10/2009 11:04


Good on the people that did it.........people must be told the truth about this evil man.
- Tony, Essex, 29/10/2009 10:57


The law on war criminals is quite clear: it only applies to those on the losing side.
- Peter E, Penzance Cornwall, 29/10/2009 10:52


Whilst this might conceivably be disrespecting the dead it might go some way to protect those who are still alive. Our politicians are responsible for a sizeable cull on the Afghan and Iraqi people not to mention our own forces. They should be brought to book.
- Steve Goodwin, Leeds, UK, 29/10/2009 10:49


How times change. When the war started over 50% of the public said they supported it. The Tories supported it. The million marchers were treated as traitors for not 'backing our boys'. The papers were almost universally in favour of war. No one would listen to us that the Dossier was clearly rubbish and that their were no Iraqi Links to 9/11.
So never forget it was the REAL Left that tried to stop this war. It was the real left that wanted to save hundreds of British soliders lives. If the Right had joined us this might never have happened.
- Fact fan, London, 29/10/2009 10:45


I think whoever is doing this deserves some kind of award.
This is brilliant, keep it up!
Anything that would bring that low life Blair to justice is fine by me.
- David, London, 29/10/2009 10:35


It seems to be that whoever did this felt very deeply about what they wrote. It was done tidily, carefully and I am sure, without any disrespect either to the BL or the people involved. Blair ought to be sent to the front to see how he copes. Shame it won't happen.
- Anon, Cambridge, 29/10/2009 10:25


The reason they did it with that posters was exactly what they got public attention. So I agree in that context. I dont think you will get many soilders complaining as they probably feel the same.
- jacqui weemsj, southampton, 29/10/2009 9:59


Not many here going to disagree too much with this. Except it will of course come to nothing and Blair will end up being president of the EU - a reward for his crimes.
- Cllr Chris Cooke, Tamworth, UK, 29/10/2009 9:58


I would normally be disgusted at the defacing of such a poster. However, in this case I can truly understand the depth of feeling behind it. This is not mindless or insulting grafitti. I think history will show clearly just how dishonest and manipulative was the government of Tony Blair.
This is not an ideological difference, but as Prime Minister of this country he supported Bush and an invasion of Iraq - NOT because it seemed the right thing for this country, but to secure his personal image in the eyes of the US.
Look also at the extradition treaty agreed with the US (completely one-sided in favour of the US),
Blair's rewards:
- USA support for his role of "Middle East envoy" - a joke given his lack of standing with Arab countries,
- a lucrative career on the American lecture circuit
- an image that portrays him as some sort of "world statesman" who can "stop traffic"
What has he REALLY done for the UK ?
- Colin, Aberdeen, UK, 29/10/2009 9:47


This act by anti-war protestors is not "vandalism" or "disrespectful" and does not "deface" the RBL poster. Such emotive language is frankly childish. It is a valid protest to draw attention to the fact that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are about oil and establishing a permanent presence near the oil reserves of the Caspian Basin. I would suggest it is disrespectful to our troops to imply that these wars are valid.
- Mike, London, England, 29/10/2009 9:43


Surely the only thing that is disrespectful to our troops past and present is that they are required to rely on charitable donations, for their future well being.
- Mike, Liverpool U.K., 29/10/2009 9:42

"We would never discuss the rights or wrongs of conflicts."
Perhaps British Legion that is the problem, because while you and others remain silent good men die.
I just have this horrible feeling that after we are forced to withdraw those families who have suffered will be left with the awful realisation that their loved ones died in vain.
I am not anti war, indeed I was for it initially but realised we cannot be the policeman of the World and this is a conflict of no benefit to our country.This two faced government sends men to fight to prevent terrorists coming to this country and yet has a deliberate policy turning a blind eye and allowing potential terrorists and criminals in by their hundreds of thousands. It is the same reasoning that wails and moans about climate change and yet allows another runway for london that will spill out more CO2 that some African countries. Stupidity beyond words.
- Framk, Norwich, 29/10/2009 9:33


Never a truer advert. Usually I would condem such an act, but I totally agree with it.
I will still be donating to the poppy appeal.
- Tesla, London, England, 29/10/2009 9:30


I am 100% in agreement with this poster, and good for the British Legion for not over-reacting. Bliar the war criminal should be prosecuted, and face a war crimes trial in The Hague.
- Anne, Dorking, England, 29/10/2009 9:26



When I saw the truncated headline, I thought that a monument had been vandalised or something more permanent. Instead, it's just a poster than will be papered over next week with a poster for Jordan's latest book or low prices at Asda.
Having said that, I hope that all the soldiers come home, sooner or later, safe and sound.
- David, Brighton, UK, 29/10/2009 9:09


I would hesitate to call this vandalism. It is a worth while point made well, how else can our voices be heard for people like me that never trusted this deceitful New Labour, & never voted in this treacherous New Labour, & feel more vindicated with every news day.
How about "Kadadzic for EU president", no? Then why Blair?
I sincerely feel wretched when I see Blair at the Cenotaph every November 11th, he is a wretched hypocrite. Lest we forget.
- Jay, Loughton, Essex, 29/10/2009 9:08

I am an ex-sreviceman. Did 11 years. I buy and wear a poppy every year. I know full-well what it stands for. I think this addition to the poster is the voice of truth in this country. A voice which has been silenced by the complicity of Politicians of all Parties and by some of the Media too.
The people are finding their voice and this is merely a manifestation of it.
- steve lee, whitley bay, Republic of Geordieland (Retired), 29/10/2009 9:01

I don't find this disrespectful at all, what is disrespectful is Mr Browns unwillingness to listen to what his people want,AN END TO THIS WAR and to BRING THE TROOPS HOME.
- sandra page, chesterfield england, 29/10/2009 9:01

Blair should be tried for war crimes, how this fact is drawn to the publics attention is irrelevant, I am an ex Royal Marine
- Dennis Shambley, wigan England, 29/10/2009 8:56


not the way i see it , a bit of fun, strange words from the British Legion of which i'm a member, a poor choice of words in this case. i'm proud to support them tho.
- patrick gardiner, london/england, 29/10/2009 8:56

I agree with them-Prosetcute Blair!
- Doug, London, 29/10/2009 8:55

poppy


Subertiser issues appology ?

02.11.2009 13:39

Found this is the thread described above on the Army Romour Service website....

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:35 am
Author: Bad CO Location: Behind you

We've just got this by email - no idea whether it is genuine or not:

Quote:
As the person responsible for modifying the poppy appeal poster next to Gillingham station (and another not far away), I'd like to apologise for any offence caused. There was no intent to dishonour anyone (Blair excluded) and I meant no disrespect to either the Royal British Legion and its supporters, nor to the family of Damian Wright.

I was really shocked to hear about the upset this has apparently caused. I'd never dreamt my efforts would lead to the national media probing mother and widow about their feelings on 'vandalism'. Personally I don't consider rewording the poster to be an act of vandalism (or 'a bit of fun') and I don't for a moment think that it will have adversely impacted on the fund raising efforts of the poppy appeal.

Despite the outage from some quarters, I am certain that the sentiments expressed by myself (and other subvertisers) are ones supported by the majority of people in this country - including large numbers of current and ex-service men and women. In fact, if recent polls are to be believed, more people would like the troops home now, than ever voted for the government that sent them to war.

Some people, while agreeing with the message, have suggested that instead of subverting the poppy appeal posters, I should have paid for my own. But free speech isn't free and in this Orwellian era of eroding civil liberties and political policing, I wouldn't fancy my chances. Others suggested that I should have lobbied my MP and/or lawfully protested outside Downing Street, but I have - as have million of others.

Like most people in this country, I have lost all faith in the political system. I'm disillusioned by the collusion and vested interests of the media and despair at the injustice all around. Public services get cut or privatised and working people lose their jobs, pensions or their homes while the government bails out the bankers and sends yet more working class kids to die for their geopolitical ambitions. It makes me sick!

Ordinary people don't have the same freedoms and privileges enjoyed by the ruling classes, who seem immune to being held accountable for their greed and corruption. Instead, they always seem to find a way to 'reward' themselves - at our expense. Those who dissent find themselves labeled as 'domestic extremists' and threatened with police violence and terror laws.

Yes, I've been guilty of thought crime! Like many, I was appalled when Tony Blair became peace envoy to the middle east and horrified at suggestions he could now become EU president. So when I saw people had started subverting the Afghan posters with the new message, “For Their Sake, Bring 'Em Home”, I was inspired to do my own to remind people of Blair's war record.

I understand that the Royal British Legion values its reputation as being apolitical and I am sorry if anyone felt misled into thinking the Legion was taking a position on the rights or wrongs of current military incursions. That was not my intent, although obviously I did aim to get passers-by thinking about these issues themselves. I support the work of the Legion, although I think it's tragic that veterans and their families have to rely on charity, rather than receive the support they deserve from the government so quick to spend money sending our troops to war.

The adage 'never forget' is one normally associated with remembrance day and a plea which I hoped to enhance through my action. This time of remembrance is vital, especial now with fascism stirring again throughout Europe. We must remember, not just those who gave (and give) their lives but also the reasons we went to war (both then and now).

I was pleased that the RBL, and influential voices within the armed forces, recently spoke out against the dark irony of the BNP attempting to co-opt imagery of this nations honourable fight against fascism. It is sad but true - patriotism is routinely co-opted by those who seek power to further their own selfish agendas. I try to have faith that the sickening neo-nazi legacy will never take root on our shores but with our democracy in such a shambles, it is seemingly never more open to abuse.

I am forever grateful to all those who have risked their lives resisting fascism (be it fighting the Nazis, Mosley's blackshirts at Cable Street, the National Front at Lewisham, or the BNP at the BBC). I'm also humbled by the likes of Lance Corporal Joe Glenton, who have shown the courage to put their necks on the line to speak out against the unjust resource wars of our corrupt leaders.

Some commentators have said I should be ashamed of what I did - but I am only ashamed I do not have the courage to identify myself. Those who should really be ashamed are those who make a mockery of our democracy, abuse our nation's history, and betray the positions of power entrusted to them.

So, I am truly sorry for any upset caused to the family and friends of those who appear on the posters, or to those who have served this country, but I stand by my message. Lets prosecute our corrupt politicians and bring the troops home before Christmas!

for real?