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Young girl killed by Facebook pervert and implications for activists.

anon | 29.10.2009 01:31 | Animal Liberation | Bio-technology | Gender | South Coast | World

A man posing as a youngster on Facebook lured a young girl to her death. The pervert pretended to be a teenager to encourage the girl to meet him. This is a nasty crime and the worst thing that can possibly happen to young girl, a nightmare. Facebook is a playground for all sorts of people who use false profiles to get to knoe people, commit crimes, harrass, satlk and abuse people.

Activists, particularly female and teen activists are at risk from people posing as other activists and who will get to know your details, where you live, what you do, where you go, when and who with.
This is usually because people are using FB as a campaigning and networking tool and are eager to spread campaign messages.
Disreputable people [for legal reason we will say these people are acting alone] who go on to Facebook "on behalf of the pharmaceutical industry" for example have in one known case [and this is still ongoing] made hundreds of Facebook and myspace profiles using other people's photos.
While law abiding people are unaware that their photos are being used, cyberstalkers are using the photos of such innocent and law abiding members of the public to spy upon, harrass, threaten stalk and abuse activists. One anti activists cyber stalker has made thousands of fake profiles and encouraged frineds to do the same. They have in some cases bombarded activists with messages, hate mail and misleading messages etc on campaign pages.
One activist has been the subject of a relentless and nasty cyberstalking attack that is part of a real life hate campaign. An office, house and car were broken into by the cyberstalkers who then sent messages detailing names and addresses of family members, home details and threats to "stop campaigning or else" which is all very nasty. This was re-itereated via hundreds of fake profiles. Some of the threats were sexaul and many violently threatening. Some of the threats were carried out.

As one can imagine...the police interest in this was negligable. Negligance in other words. Had an activist done something on this scale to an HLS worker it would be different.

While there might not be much we can do without becoming completely paranoid or being led to stop campaigning I think that there should be some kind of safeguard by FB to protect young people and women from this sort of thing...although it will probably just end up being used by the police against us.

If you are a parent [ESPECIALLY if you are the parent of a teen activist!!]- CHECK what young people are up to online...chances are you paid for the computer and it's installation, bills etc so...it's up to you!

anon
- Homepage: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6894666.ece

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29.10.2009 02:06

Parents, fix up your sons n daughters up with educated fuck-mates of the same age range, or lock them up, let them mix with adults so they can learn but always keep an eye on any adult you don't know regardless of how 'nice and lovely and right-on' they appear to be, and never trust political affiliations. Fascists are more likely to fuck your kids because fascists abuse power daily, but some paedos know this and so go 'deep cover' as anarchist.

Like psychopathy, it is a human flaw that affects everyone, and I'm not sure if there is really any more child abuse than there was 50 years ago, but be constantly careful while ignoring the hype.

10% of Scotlands prisoners are sex offenders, and the vasat majority of sex-offenders aren't convicted. Fucking any child is rape. If you feel yourself likely of rape then suicide is the least painful option.

Danny


These weirdos should have their computers confiscated.

29.10.2009 02:24

Using someone elses's photo is scary...imagine of it was yours?

anon


Imagine the headline "NETCU / HLS used my photo to harrass activists"

29.10.2009 02:27

This isn't good...imagine if someone was recognised who's pic has been used and got harrassed "back" or arrested?

If someone is doing this then the police should take the person's computer away. What else will be on it?

@na


Relevance?

29.10.2009 11:12

Well it's nice to know that as a young female activist I'm so particularly vulnerable to people finding out my details. Quite why is of course over my head, data is data and it is how well hidden or protected it is that determines how easy it is to get hold of. I'm also quite disappointed that posters on indymedia would buy into the same sensationalist hysteria that allows a tabloid to drag the cruel and unusual death of one person through the press for weeks, ignoring the thousands of people being raped, abused and killed in their own homes every day.

What happened to that girl is tragic, it's sad and disturbing, but don't twist it to sow bizarre sexist scaremongering about deep cover NETCU paedo fascists coming after any young female anarchists they can. Organisations with ulterior motives use social networking sites to gather information, sure. People get hurt and killed by predators they meet on the internet. They're two separate issues. There are plenty of good reasons for activists to get off facebook and myspace, but it being by default too dangerous a place for female activists is paternalist, sexist and I get enough of that shit when I'm making the tea.


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Wired UK: Policing the Facebook extremists

29.10.2009 12:27

The November issue of the UK version of Wired magazine has an in depth article on Facebook and vigilantes and harassment and hate etc.

 http://www.wired.co.uk/wired-magazine/archive/2009/11/start/policing-the-facebook-extremists.aspx?page=all

Policing the Facebook extremists
By CJ Davies|06 October 2009

Would not dream of using real details on Facebook


Hmmm

29.10.2009 12:44

This reeks of something fishy.

Pointless scaremongering.

Me


Over the top scaremongering

29.10.2009 13:54

Of course we should all be careful, and far be it from me to suggest that parents should take an interest take some responsibility for their childs internet activities, but this story seems to be incredululous and over the top.

For example :

"One anti activists cyber stalker has made thousands of fake profiles ......"

Do you really believe this ??

Thousands of profiles? So in other words, one person has over 1000 email addresses and passwords for Facebook ? - I simply do not believe it.

This does not take away from the very real need to be security conscious, especially for children and young adults, as well as activists,on the internet. - Do not give out your mobile number or home address or any personal details to anyone that you do not actually know, in other words anyone that is not already your friend in real life that you have already met and are friends with.

Get Real


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FAO Young Female Activist

29.10.2009 15:34

Tits or GTFO!

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@ Get Real

29.10.2009 16:14

I don't know how the writer would know if someone had set up thousands of fake profiles but it is possible. There are programs for storing passwords (or they could all be the same) and if they own a domain they could easily use it for all the different e-mail addresses  1@netcu.com,  2@netcu.com, etc. or used something like Mytrashmail.

ARA


Why use facebook?

29.10.2009 17:42

There's no reason to use facebook. I think the above article is bullshit mostly, except for its reference to the newspaper article. But off course facebook is open to massive abuse, but then it's origins are dubious as well. Check out this video and ask yourself why you'd want to voluntarily register yourself, for the use of whoever?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B37wW9CGWyY

Too many people are on this thing, connecting themselves to others with photos and all kinds of info including political affiliations and recent arrests.

Against survillance, against facebook!

catcher in the rye
- Homepage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B37wW9CGWyY


Why would it would be bullshit that some geek has made a lot of profiles?

30.10.2009 01:04

Unfortunatetly it's not bullshit. Some geek has indeed made a very large number of profiles and I know someone who has done this. It's not like you've been asked to believe that there was mass break in to buckinham Palace or something.....

Mister Bean


Why would it would be bullshit that some geek has made a lot of profiles?

30.10.2009 01:04

Unfortunatetly it's not bullshit. Some geek has indeed made a very large number of profiles and I know someone who has done this. It's not like you've been asked to believe that there was mass break in to buckinham Palace or something.....

Mister Bean


The real threat

30.10.2009 15:38

The real threat to kids, statistically speaking, are your own male friends and relatives between the ages of 20 and 40.

The only paedo I have ever met was a member of [removed]. Until these organisations start invstiagting their own members then they are all complicit in child abuse and they remain the biggest external threat to activists children.

Danny


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