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What's body fascism doing in a nice riot like this?

Christine Feynmann | 27.06.2009 23:02 | G20 London Summit | Climate Chaos | Gender | Other Press

Imagine the following scenario: a reporter from a mainstream magazine goes to a Climate Camp event, and asks for someone to do an interview with. The media team sends a camper to do the interview, and this camper happens to be Asian, or black. The reporter says: "Sorry, our readers prefer to look at pictures of white people. Do you have anyone white we could interview?" How would the Climate Campers react? Hopefully they would tell this reporter to fuck the hell off, at the very least.

Something similar happened last April at Climate Camp in the City in London. The reporter was from Grazia magazine, and they didn't specify that they wanted to interview someone white - instead, either overtly or otherwise, it was made clear that they only wanted Climate Campers who were young, female, and cute. And the Climate Campers quite happily complied.

A lot of people think that body fascism isn't "real" oppression, in the way that racism and homophobia are real. In fact 16,000 people a year die of anorexia, between 1 and 2% of women between 15 and 30 have an eating disorder, and many more are unable to live full and happy lives because they cannot get over their feelings of shame about not having the "correct" body shape. This is oppression, and it is very real. The fact that women are bombarded with the twin messages that how they look is more important than what they do, and that there is only one correct way to look, contributes to the fact that women on average have lower pay and are less likely to occupy positions of power. Our society is still a patriarchy, meaning that most power is held by a small elite, and this elite is almost exclusively male. Body fascism helps keep it that way.

Of course it is true that the Climate Camp has always made compromises when dealing with the mainstream media. For instance the media team invited the Daily Mail to do interviews, even though the Daily Mail often prints articles that are very racist. The difference though is that while many Daily Mail articles are racist, when the Daily Mail does an interview with a Climate Camper, the Climate Camper does not express or agree with racist views. However when Climate Campers agreed to do the Grazia interview, with the understanding that only Climate Camp women who more or less fit into the standard "correct" body shape demanded by body fascism would be welcome to do it, they implicitly agreed with and promoted the extremely oppressive ideas that there is only one correct way for a woman to look, and that a woman's physical appearance is the most important thing about her. The Climate Campers could have insisted that anyone who wanted to be in the photo-shoot could be in it. They could have insisted on having a range of ages and body types. They didn't do this (presumably because it would have led to Grazia refusing to do the article at all).

It could be argued that the Grazia article was justified because it brought information about the Climate Camp to a wider audience, and thus could lead to more people getting involved in Climate Camp. This may be true. However the Grazia article has contributed to the loss of at least one Climate Camper. While I have been involved in the Climate Camp movement since 2006, I have been a feminist far longer than that. As a teenager I bought into the ideas of body fascism, and thus I viewed myself as a failure because I was "ugly" and "fat". I spent years deconstructing the oppressive messages that we are bombarded with every day, and teaching myself to view my actions as being more important than my body shape. I had to become a feminist before I could become an activist. If I had not become a feminist I would not have had the confidence and the self-belief necessary to help run a social centre, to participate in large meetings, or to blockade a factory. After all that I have been through, belonging to an organization that thinks this Grazia article is alright, or at least harmless, feels like a massive step backwards. As a result of this I will be less a lot less up for doing Climate Camp stuff in the future.

Christine Feynmann

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The article

28.06.2009 01:53

Someone sent me a copy of the Grazia article after I wrote this - I hadn't seen it before, I'd searched for it on the Internet but couldn't find it, so only knoew about it through word of mouth. Having seen the article it's not at all a typical Grazia article, and nowhere near as bad I'd expected. So what I wrote was probably overly harsh. I'm sorry. I was just feeling really angry and scared at the thought of the Climate Camp venturing into the realm of "women's magazines" which are actually so incredibly oppressive to women, without having an analysis of that. I still think the stuff I wrote about is important to think about generally. But what I wrote was way to harsh toward the people who were involved in that article so I'm sorry for that.

Christine Feynmann


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what did

27.06.2009 23:11

you really expect mainstream mag wants a person of "mainstream" appearance so it sells better.

ballz


Yes Women

27.06.2009 23:42

Apologies for my reply not being directly related but I've been saving this and it is almost out of date. I saw a local link a few months ago to a 'Green Beauty Contest', in an online commercial site, Gumtree. Basically women nominate themselves as good-looking and environmentally aware, and companies sponsor those women to take part in beauty pageants supposedly to boost their corporate environmental credentials. I've never witnessed one of these regular events, but it sounds like a cross between a corporate lap-dancer and a lecture on bio-char. The girls have to talk about the environment while prancing around like an Dutch shop window exhibit. It really is beyond ridicule but it has to be admitted, there are people of all genders and ages who are mostly active politically to stay active sexually, and these people are easily subverted by the state.

If the same women who stormed the recent anarchist do could reform and take over one of these events, then that would be worthy rather than just well-meaning, certainly worth filming. One of you should consider entering.

Or maybe you want to leave that sort of stuff to the Yes Men?

Danny


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The Children of the Eco-Warriors Won't Be Back Either

28.06.2009 00:26

So sorry for what you have been through with the Camp for Climate Action.
When the rumours about police infitration were circulating before the Kingston camp I posted a story on Indymedia warning my friends there was a risk involved in taking their children there.
Indymedia banned my post immediately without any explanation so I went to the climate camp to find out what was going on.
Most of my friends did not bring their children because they were the people who had told me it would not be safe for them to do so.
I filmed all the violence against the mothers and their children on the first day and the attacks on the teenagers on the day of mass action and was horrified when I was told a baby had been hurt by an out of control riot police horse.
In an interview one of the climate camp media group said it was good for their defence for the public to see violent images on ITN of police attacking campers.
When I allowed someone who claimed to work for the Indymedia and climate camp legal team use my video camera to upload the footage of the teenage girl who got snatched by the police they broke my camera.
Some of my friends' children held a meeting of their own on the day after the day of mass action and they decided they did not like being told what to do by people they didn't know and they would not be coming back to future climate camps.
Many other road protesters from the 1990s are saying the same thing now and it is a great shame that this has happened after all the hard work and effort that we have put into trying to make the climate camps a success.
The kids have got their own plans now for future events and the next Children's Revolution will be amazing but it won't be happening at the Camp for Climate Action again.
More in sorrow than in anger,

Nick
mail e-mail: earthaidcampaign@googlemail.com
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Here is the article. It's pretty good!

28.06.2009 01:17

While I agree with your sentiments in general, I don't think they apply in this particular case. Here is a copy of the article, and I think you'll agree, it celebrates some strong female climate camp organisers which will hopefully inspire some of the women who read Grazia:

 http://www.slideshare.net/guest576c81/climate-camp-grazia



Georgie Hibbs


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The article

28.06.2009 01:21

As soon as I posted this someone sent me a copy of the article (I'd searched for it on the Internet but been unable to find it so only knew about it by word of mouth up till now). I'll admit it's not at all a typical Grazia article and nowhere near as bad as I'd imagined. So I'm sorry I wrote what I wrote in such a harsh tone, I was just feeling angry and scared that people from Climate Camp were going into the realm of "women's magazines" that are so incredibly oppressive to women, without having any analysis about that. I do think the stuff i wrote is generally important to think about. But probably I was way too harsh toward the specific people who were involved in that article who probably put a lot of work into doing Climate Camp media stuff. Sorry.

Christine Feynmann


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The article

28.06.2009 02:21

Someone sent me a copy of the Grazia article after I wrote this - I hadn't seen it before, I'd searched for it on the Internet but couldn't find it, so only knoew about it through word of mouth. Having seen the article it's not at all a typical Grazia article, and nowhere near as bad I'd expected. So what I wrote was not really right. I'm sorry. I was just feeling really angry and scared at the thought of the Climate Camp venturing into the realm of "women's magazines" which are actually so incredibly oppressive to women, without having an analysis of that. I still think the stuff I wrote about is important to think about generally. But what I wrote was way to harsh toward the people who were involved in that article so I'm sorry for that.

Chris Feynmann


Re: The Article

28.06.2009 03:01

Christine, your article is great, i get it, but ffs could the Grazia article be any more anti working class? It subscribes to the whole 'good protestor' v 'bad protestor' divisive bullshit, i.e. anyone at the climate camp action was a respectable, educated, professional, intelligent young individual whilst anyone anyone at the Bank of England protest was using "protest as an excuse to go on the rampage".

The premise of the article is that that the climate camp hosts a new breed of 'fashionable' protestors who are better than any previous protesters because they are attractive, in their 20s, graduates, cool, and have a job.


Unlike all the other doll scrounging, neanderthal, thick useless scum around the block.

Anonymous


the article is crap!

28.06.2009 05:28

The Grazia article strongly buys into the good protester vs bad protester mantra that mired g20 following the violence at Bank and Climate Camp. What's with the "nice girl" crap? No one calls me a nice girl because I'm not a cute, girl next door type. But I am a non-violent activist with experience in the movement. I mask up in front of FIT and I'm not going to apologize for not making every demo look hella friendly.

What's with the professional class crap? Wow, people took a day off work! According to this I shouldn't offer to cook at Climate Camp because we have professional chefs. Sounds like legal's an exclusive working group as well. What a wretched misrepresentation of horizontal organizing. What a wretched misrepresentation of our actual skillsets.

It's disappointing that the Grazia article tries to define who climate camp belonged to. I read lots of crap like this after G20, deriding Bank demonstrators and pitying Climate Campers. We were one movement. Unimaginative mainstream media divides us in this article, rather than seeing the true division between our movement and the authorities.

not a nice girl


I threw up

28.06.2009 08:15

What might be of much more interest to Indymedia readers is the difference between what the Grazia Journalists asked for and what they finally delivered in the magazine. The article looks well laid out, the text is coherently managed, and the pictures are not too photoshopped.

So: How many pictures were not used? How much interview time was not committed to text? There are a raft of questions left unanswered. Particularly since the article is fairly anodyne. It fails to take the range of protests into account - mostly picking on the prettiest fresh meat for their advertisers.

Unless Grazia are prepared to dissect the article and explain its construction, it is of little use except to shift units, promote fashion and fake the end of discrimination.

Valerie Solanos


Climate camp needs to wake up and smell the oppression.

28.06.2009 11:11

Hey Christine, I don't think there is any need to apologise, this important point that you raised about the article, to me, is way more important than what the article itself said:

"it was made clear that they only wanted Climate Campers who were young, female, and cute. And the Climate Campers quite happily complied"

I find it abhorrent that the climate camp complied with this request. Yes, it conforms to all those fucked up stereotypes that the mainstream media exploit in order to sell magzines.
The act of complying with this request is, in itself, reinforcing these stereotypes and supporting the oppressive and sexist attitudes of the media. Although I am sure the women that took part thought that they were putting out images of "strong women", they should maybe do a bit more thinking before they adhere to the climate camps "grab any bit of publicity they can " policy and question why they are supporting the patriachal, capitalist structures that we should be fighting against.
Prioritising climate change over other issues is misguided. The climate campers are happily prepared to collude with the mainstream media in order to get their point across regardless of the cost. In agreeing to present themselves as "young, cute and female" they are oppressing other women, in presenting themselves as a movement of young professionals they alienating the working classes. What else are they prepared to sell out on to get the media limelight?
Fight all oppression! (not just climate change)

anarchist feminist


Grazia's target audience

28.06.2009 12:13

Grazia wanted a cute young chick as thats their target audience, simple as, its a fashion mag for air heads!! You cant have a go and them for that (well you can but its pretty pointless)

FFS


climate camp did smell it

28.06.2009 15:31

Anarcho Feminist, Grazia didn't request that only young, cute women be interviewed, and climate camp did not do so. I think that's why Christine is apologising. It's great to have a solid analysis, but facts also matter, and in this case, they were wrong.

sarah jackson


whether about children or media team

28.06.2009 17:53

"they are all the same" - that's the basic premise of some of the comments here, all those climate campers, they all think the same. I mean, after all, it's an organisation with paid staff, so you can't really get involved or change anything by participating.

Sigh.

are we nearly there yet?


Re: are we nearly there yet?

28.06.2009 21:23

Camp For Climate Action have no paid staff whatsoever - we're all volunteers.

If you're worried about the media team's policies and have time, plz consider joining - press [AT] climatecamp.org.uk

Ms Anne Thropy


...

28.06.2009 21:33

I think it makes sense to interview women as obviously that's Grazia's target audience and they can relate to women more (therefore it'd be easier for them to imagine attending a protest). It does worry me tho that there's so much emphasis in the article on the interviewees being professional and having a decent career. It's pretty alienating.

Ms Anne Thropy


What's a nice girl like me doing having opinions at all?

29.06.2009 01:31

If this isn't as bad as you were expecting, god knows what you were expecting. The picture of the woman in front of the tent could have been pasted in from any photoshoot of vintage festival chic. There isn't a sentence in there that isn't dripping with classism, sexism or both. It constantly degrades women as "dirty hippie mommas", who by default would be too incompetent to act on an opinion that would probably not be valid in the first place, whilst suggesting that the only way that a woman can get anything done is by existing in a "man's world" job.

The unrelenting, poorly concealed tone of surprise that a woman can achieve anything at all is only topped by the persistent hammering home of the fact that these women are special.... because they're smart enough to do complicated things like jobs. Oh and because they're all pretty well off, so their achieving anything through their protest may not rock the boat too much. Ooh the nasty bankers are just so evil, but just look at the lovely PR girl, taking the day off from selling another faceless corporation to increasingly apathetic consumers, look at all the things she can make and do without once acknowledging that maybe she feeds this system too. You go girl.

So what if it "fits the target audience"? Fuck the target audience, do any of you women want you, or other women, to be made into the targets that this insulting tripe is apparently so perfect for?

So what if they tell you that's what their readers want to see? Would you get your tits out for The Sun if they put a banner behind you?

Jaime


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29.06.2009 10:18

So the mainstream media has a habbit of misrepresenting people who they interview, thats not exactly news, its just an annoying pitfall of trying to get the message out from activists to the masses. So they want a 'good' picture? Their definition of good may be different to mine or yours, but I bet you'd still want an image that would draw as many readers in to 'activist' (and clearly this is in the loosest possible sense in this case) related articles and stick in their minds: not everyone of us could be that picture. Of course thats not to say that their idea of correct appearance is what the climate camp, you, I or activists in general would put in front of a camera in this situation.

censored


a few things to consider

29.06.2009 14:08

* there are a number of people who identify as feminists or anarcha-feminists on the Climate Camp media team - there was some discussion beforehand as to whether or not we wanted to run with this opportunity given the nature of Grazia magazine, the fashion industry, representation of women etc etc. People felt that this was a really good opportunity to give some visibility to the Camp and what its about to a very different audience to what audience it normally manages to reach in the mass media (ie middle-class Guardian readers)

* pretty much every mainstream media outlet has pretty distressing representation on race, class or gender. Is Grazia really substantially worse than 'women's' magazines in the Observer? Arguably, there is a class bias in seeing the one as acceptable and the other as beyond the pale. If we ruled out all of these as media that we wouldn't deal with, we would restrict ourselves to sending out our own zines and pamphlets amongst ourselves. Which is all well and good if we want to just talk about these things in our own little activist ghettos.

*working with the mainstream media is really frustrating and difficult. its a constant battle to try and get across the messages that represent the climate camp. some of it involves working around the unfair restrictions and prejudices of the mainstream media. there's no getting away from that - that's just doing media work.

*lots of people who saw the Grazia article gave us a lot of positive feedback at working within the limitations of the genre. we dont get to write these pieces.

*Climate Camp is an open and horizontal process - if people aren't happy with the way that the media team works, they should get involved in the process to change the media mandate that the media working group operates under.

a climate camper and media activist


We need to reach out to EVERYONE

29.06.2009 14:24

While I agree that Grazia is a fairly unpleasant publication, I think it is very important that as activists we try to reach out to all kinds of people - and unfortunately that means using the media.

If we declined to speak to the media if we didnt like their politics, who could we speak to? Perhaps we should stop engaging with the Daily Mail or the Sun for their politics, boycott Sky and the Times because they're owned by Murdoch, or stop speaking to the Guardian because they have E.ON as a sponsor at their climate conference. This would be ridiculous - especially since the Climate Camp has made a conscious decision to engage with media.

We can't change the politics of a magazine by refusing to speak to its journalists. Everyone needs to hear about climate change and activism as soon as possible - even Grazia readers.

We can't build a broad social movement only getting our message out to Indymedia et al - only activists read these. To avoid speaking to the converted all the time, I think we should definitely engage with anyone who will listen.

Congratulations to the women who were interviewed, I think the piece might make some people interested in what we're doing and maybe come along to one of our events, where they can learn more about what we're really about.

Implicit politics of the mag aside, I think it is far more sympathetic than a lot of the coverage we get where we havent been able to engage with them - newspapers have depicted us as terrorists, dole scroungers and militant crazies.

AG


Truth hurts?

30.06.2009 23:34

Speaking as a white middle-class male, I'm sorry, but it is simply a demographic fact that a large proportion of the people involved in climate camp are white middle-class graduates.

I'm glad such a lot of them are women, which is better than in most profit-making organisations and mainstream political parties, but there *is* a definite bias towards a certain class within the climate camp movement, and the different social composition between the Bank protests and the climate camp was initially self-selecting.

Yes there is an overlap between the two - I would have attended both, but due to the kettle I couldn't get to bank. There would have been more of an overlap without the kettling tactics restricting movement between the two. But the police reinforced a distinction that was already in place.

If you are working a low-paid job in terrible conditions, with a harsh policy on absences; if you have a family to support on your own; if you are an immigrant with uncertain residential status in the UK; if you are a member of an ethnic minority with a history of being arbitrarily picked on by the police, then it is a big risk to get involved with direct action like climate camp. I'm not saying that certain people don't still do so, or that they are very brave if they do, but they do it at much greater personal risk.

I would also like to say that there is nothing wrong with being 'young, female and cute [as defined by the mainstream media]'... nobody can help when they were born, their biological sex, or the way their face looks. People shouldn't be made to feel guilty about it. I know one of the girls in the article and she certainly doesn't exploit her appearance.

I also take issue with Danny's comment that 'there are people of all genders and ages who are mostly active politically to stay active sexually, and these people are easily subverted by the state' - last sunday was the 40th anniversary of the stonewall riots. I personally am very grateful that people over the years have been willing to 'be actively politically in order to stay active sexually', and I hope it continues. This saturday is Pride in London... well that's a whole other debate.

As for whether the camp should deal with certain media outlets... I know there is a media team, but ultimately climate camp runs on consensus, and there is no disciplinary structure as there is in the 'democratic centralist' parties. This has it's pros and cons; one effect is that media policy can be debated but never enforced because secrecy can't really be maintained. Personally I spit on daily mail and the sun (I had never heard of Grazia before this article), but I have to accept that one way or another they are going to get a climate camp story, whether it is with cooperation or by infiltration.

Ben


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