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BNP Behind Explosion At Luton Islamic Centre?

LUTON GRAPEVINE | 08.05.2009 15:11 | Anti-racism

Local people are sure that the BNP were behind the terrorist attack on the Islamic Centre in Luton, despite the police announcing today that there is no evidence!

Despite the police saying there is no evidence of the far right being involved, going by the hate aimed at Luton Muslims via far right websites and the fact the leaders of the Islamic Centre have received threats from far right nutters it is more likely going to be the BNP or other racist sympathisers.

There will be a public meeting in Luton Friday 22nd May called
LET'S KEEP LUTON FASCIST FREE starts at 7pm in room 004, The Auditorium
University of Bedfordshire, Park Square Luton.

The last meeting was stopped by the police we hope they don't do so again.

A group of people calling themselves UNITED PEOPLE OF LUTON who held an illegal violent demo in Luton on Easter Sunday and shouted abuse aimed at Muslims plan to have another demo on 24th May (bank holiday).

Why come along and cheer them on?

LUTON GRAPEVINE
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Islam and Fascism, whats the difference?

08.05.2009 15:57

Followers of Islam and followers of fascism are the same, they're both intolerant, brainwashed victims of vicious lies. Dont stand up for either.

Education is the key to stopping the dangerous spread of both.

tas

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not same as fash, you could say the same of any religious ism,check sufi islam &

08.05.2009 16:35

goodparts of islam need respecting plz

Universal Confederalist

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tas = New Labour Nazi racist

08.05.2009 17:36

To quote this racist:
"Followers of Islam and followers of fascism are the same, they're both intolerant, brainwashed victims of vicious lies. Dont stand up for either."

Or, in other words, target the planet's ONE BILLION Muslims for destruction.

Had he replaced the word 'Judaism' for 'Islam', Indymedia moderators would have hidden his comment immediately.

Islam, as tas would want you to forget, is based on the teaching of the Old Testament, being just another fork of Judaism, as is Modern Christianity. The so-called 'abusive' aspects of teaching in holy Islamic texts merely ape exactly the same content from the original holy Jewish texts.

The vast majority of Muslims do not relate to the nastier parts of their Holy books any more than the vast majority of Christians relate to the multiple obscenities contained within the Old Testament part of their Bible. Looking at the actions of the Jewish state (their description) of Israel, and its supporters, I'm not sure one can say the same thing about the majority of followers of Judaism.

However, in fairness, judged across the millennia, only Christianity has consistently been the religion of aggressive war, invasion, racism, genocide, etc. The teachings of the New Testament seem mealy-mouthed when one considers the pro-war, pro-slavery, pro-racism, pro-genocide stance of Popes and Bishops across the ages.

One thing we know for sure. It wasn't the BNP or NF fascists that murdered maybe 200+ people in Afghanistan a few days back. That terror bombing that exterminated family after family after family, for the crime of being Muslim, was entirely a New Labour Nazi/Obama action, a massive race-hate crime that has the complete support of all the shills that post in support of Israel, New Labour, 'Muslim-bashing', or the various wars of aggression currently waged or planned against Muslim nations.

Tomorrow will be worse than today

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Islam does not deserve respect

08.05.2009 18:06

One of the pillars of islam is that Mohammed is the final messenger of god (allah). Mohammed married a 6 year old and consummated the marriage when the child was aged 9 - that is paedophillia whichever way you look at it.

So maybe you're right that Islam and Fascism are different as Fascism also doesn't have the bullshit about flying up to heaven on a magic horse.

However, the Quran openly preaches intolerance of Jews, try these quotes from the Quran:

Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61

Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66

Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96

Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers. 4:47

Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims. 4:51

"Those (Christians and Jews) are they whom Allah hath cursed." 4:52

Allah has cursed the Jews and hardened their hearts. Nearly all of them are treacherous. 5:12-13

Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them. 5:51

Jews and Christians are losers. 5:53

Don't choose Jews, Christians, or disbelievers as guardians. 5:57

Jews and Christians are evil-livers. 5:59

Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests. 5:63

Allah has cast enmity and hatred among the Jews. 5:64

Allah does not guide disbelievers. 5:67

The Jews rejected and killed Allah's prophets, since "they were wilfully blind and deaf." 5:70-71

Fight against Christians and Jews "until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low." 9:29

Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them. 9:30


Now this is just a small sample of the anti-jewish stuff in the Quran, I haven't even started on the text about killing christians and nonbelievers. The point is, while I don't condone fascism at all, Islam is just as bad and deserves no protection or priveledge.

Perhaps the worst thing about Islam (and also Christianity) is that it says god will end the world in a judgement day. Isn't it a bit dangerous to be believing in that when mankind has nuclear weopans?

tas

"No evidence"

08.05.2009 19:41

When a building in Islington housing several organisations (including a benefits and housing advice centre) was firebombed in 1982, the cops could similarly find "no evidence" it was nazis, despite evidence it was arson and the fact the nazis had published a hit list a few weeks previously which included this building. The hit list claimed the "official IRA" in London were based there, which was bollocks. Troops Out had box number for mail there, that's what annoyed them.

It would be "terrorism" and raids all round if there was the flimsiest suspicion Muslims had set fire to a building, eh? But this isn't terrorism, it's "just one of those things", obviously. Besides, the police are very busy. They've got all those Gaza and G20 protesters to catch.

What's the fire brigade like in Luton? Might be worthwhile for people involved to open an independent channel to them, by-passing the cops. Where a fire is not accidental or electrical, they usually find clear evidence of arson.

Stroppyoldgit

What terrorist attack?!

09.05.2009 10:59

I've not heard about this. Background please.

Ruby

Answer To Ruby

09.05.2009 12:47

Hi Ruby

Why not go to Blog called Luton Grapevine for more details.

 http://www.lutongrapevine.wordpress.com


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Islam = nazi religion

09.05.2009 14:48

You people are really beyond help, it is pretty obvious the Taliban bombed the mosque. Islam is a nazi religion that even kill its own people if they do not follow it the right wya.

John

Probably an "own goal"

09.05.2009 15:34

Given the fact that mosques have frequently been used to store weapons and explosives and that terrorists, especially of the Mohammedan variety, aren't reknowned for proper handling of explosives, the likelyhood is this was an "own goal".

Ed

Hello fascist trolls!

09.05.2009 18:02

Could you be any more obvious?

Lol

Example of own goal

09.05.2009 19:06

As an example of major own goal, here's a report from a few days ago:  http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSISL330182

It's not a rare or unheard of event.

Ed

Why the Fascist Trolling

10.05.2009 21:47

The Fascist Trolling seems to rise as the BNP (or the Far Right in general) become sensitive about events. It would be a terrible blow to Old One Eye if the police were to discuss explosions. Such as Bologna Station or accidental discharge of shotgun cartridges. Really queer his pitch for the European Elections, that would. The Easy London approach to swindling.

The need to investigate is supported by evidence advanced in the Ideological Political Soldier - as advanced by Griffin. The same kind of evidence, of the bickering among Combat 18 and uncontrolled strategic mistakes, is becoming clearly of concern. The Fascists like to troll. So they can lie. Pretend to be persecuted. Point at other people and make ludicrous claims.

Maybe the International Third Position and the Third Way tendencies are making one last attempt to distract genuine Democrats from them. Just remember, Griffin only needs to get elected once to get on the European payroll. How many of the fascist trolls are hoping for some European Expenses from Uncle Nick.

So the Trolls can explain why they need to make such a fuss. Someone, somewhere, knows who messed up and how. Buildings do not burn themselves down. The suggestion of mishandled explosives is laughable. Explosives explode, not smoulder and burn.

"ISLAM: A Threat to us all." A headline, as published by the BNP. So, when will the BNP members trolling be stepping forward with the evidence they have? If it was genuinely just some loose cannon, they have nothing to fear. But they do have something to hide. Such as the owner of a BMW 3-series found burnt out in Elmore Road, Luton. Perhaps the Trolls might want to talk to Inspector Martin Peters. He did say, "It appears an accelerant was used and our immediate priorities include establishing who started this fire..."

And of course, the far right started throwing around the word "victims" as soon as the fire started. Not content with playing the victim card for BNP Supporters they start claiming everybody - from Trade Unions to the British Council of Muslims - are victims. Maybe its just a slip of loose tongues. Maybe its the lie machine covering up for a return to old fashioned tactics. Maybe someone just got kicked in the little gree footballs.

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