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Justice for Djindy, Matt & the Wilson family.

Djindy First! | 06.04.2009 23:08

On Wed 1st April a judgement was made ordering Matt Wilson to return his son, Djindra, to his mother. Instead of doing so, he disappeared.
Since then his family have been harrassed and threatened because they do not know where he has gone.

On Wed 1st April a judgement was made ordering Matt Wilson to return his son, Djindra, to his mother.

An injunction had been served on Matt only days earlier. The court case had been initiated by the mother who had sworn an affidavit claiming that Djindra had 'habitual residence' in Hungary and only travelled to the UK for occasional holidays to see his dad. This is not true.

On average Djindra has spent 3 months with each parent. A third of his life in the UK, a third in Hungary and a third travelling in a range of different countries.
Djindra has had the benefit of having a 50/50 shared parenting agreement; mother and father and many family members, on the paternal and maternal side, had agreed that this was the fairest arrangement as Djindra is half English, half Hungarian and should benefit from both cultures and family equally.

The original affidavit is riddled with untruths yet the mother has not received as much as a reprimand for lying under oath about Matt and Djindra's relationship. However, the Great British Justice System now sees fit to emotionally torture the Wilson family because it claims that they are lying and are thus in contempt of court. The court has absolutely no evidence to support this assertion. Where is the justice?

Mother and son were scheduled to return to Hungary last Wednesday. Both mother and grandmother had strongly hinted that Djindra's return to Hungary would end the 4 1/2 year shared parenting agreement and that Matt would be allowed, at best, infrequent access to his son. As anyone who knows them would confirm, father & son have a very close and magical relationship. To threaten to destroy this is abhorrent.

At no point in this case have Djindra's rights, needs or wants been represented.
A request from Matt for Djindra to be represented in the hearing was never made possible.
Djindra has a stable, happy life, family, community, best-friend-cousin, grandparents & much more in the UK. A life that can be ripped apart on the whim of a court, a court that does not seem to have put his interests first.

Following the decision on April 1st Matt and Djindra have disappeared and no-one knows their whereabouts.

Since their disappearance on Wednesday the High Court of 'Justice' has undertaken to harass, intimidate, imprison & threaten Matt's parents and siblings. This court of Injustice is threatening to imprison innocent family members just because they do not know where Matt is.
The family are currently having to pay £1000 per day to defend themselves despite being charged with no crime.
3 members have been arrested, handcuffed, detained overnight and taken down to London by a private security firm.

Private email and Facebook accounts, bank accounts and mobile phones have been seized and investigated.
Earthworm Housing Cooperative has been searched.

From the start of this process Djindra's paternal grandparents, Judith and Andrew Wilson, have had their basic legal rights denied.
They did not have their opportunity to appear before the court and challenge the veracity of his mother's statements.
All requests for a copy of the affidavit to be made available to them have been ignored by his mother's legal team.
The High Court of Injustice did not see fit to uphold their right to receive this documentation. The High Court of Injustice did not even acknowledge this right.

At the moment we still have no copy of the affidavit so cannot quote from it directly.
We are not allowed access to the case notes as Matt is not here to authorise it.
We are not thought to be innocent til proven guilty.
We have been threatened with the Tipstaff, a 13th Century officer of the court who has powers that far exceed normal police powers.

Anyone with any experience, skills or knowledge of how this injustice can stop please contact us urgently on 01547 540461

We need to find a way to return to Djindra to his life once more, a life that embraces both sides of him; 2 families, friends & cultures. A life that, so far, has resulted in a happy, well adjusted, secure little boy.




































Djindy First!
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pinch of salt!

07.04.2009 15:09

Having read through this article and the facebook sites that have emerged from this: i find it difficult to believe that people are talking about the same situation that i have known about. Matt and his family have been planning to 'kidnap' djindy for a while now. With matt sending group emails saying that he will be 'fobbing kissanna off until the end of january' and be 'worried if she knows the score during this time' also that he will be 'processing british citizenship during this time'

This process has been drawn out and nasty, kisanna has received emails from nearly every member of the wilson family and their partners. Not the nice fluffy ones that are being masqueraded publicly but ones entitled 'Poisoned Dwarf' and calling her mother a 'Little shit'. Kissana from what i can see during this time has carried herself with dignity and always called for the issue to be turned back to Djindys welfare. She has been bullied completely and persecuted by the entire family.

The 'Magical' relationship that matt shares with his son is a ridiculous concept, matt is controlling and aggressive with him. Not just in a physical sense but mentally manipulates him; telling him that the reason he cant take him back to kisanna is because his mummy wants to kidnap him!

Djindys happy and stable life is also a ridiculous concept, he was living in an extreme place where the members who have disagreed with the Wilson way have been forced out, and the reason his cousin is his best friend is because that is the only child of his age that he is allowed contact with. Matt is an extreme person who lives in an extreme way, and although sometimes this type of action is called for it is not a balanced way to raise a child.

I cant believe that this is what indy media is being used for!!!






balanced view


justice for djindy and djindys mother

07.04.2009 15:11



Dear everyone, this is Kisanna, the mother of Djindy. Please, let’s look at this case from the other side, too.

I HAVE BEEN DENIED ANY CONTACT WITH MY SON AND ALL INFORMATION ABOUT HIM FOR MORE THAN THREE MONTHS! Can you imagine, what this is like?
The person closest to me, born from my body, a part of me, Love itself to me!

When Djindy is with me, Matt is free to talk to him, and I write 2-weekly updates on his wellbeing: what he plays, his friends, his like and dislikes, new and old habits – well, his life. This has not been happening from Matt’s side at all. I read English tales to him almost every day to kep his English up. Last time Djindy came back from Matt, he had been so isolated, that he forgot Hungarian as well.His mother tongue!

I have been trying to negotiate on Djindy’s life with Matt for years now. Tried to offer mediation. I was humiliated, neglicted and denied my basic rights.The response to the points I made were that they are either not worth responding to or that I was an idiot. This was getting worse and worse. Since 1,5 years, Matt doesn’t even want to see my face – who knows why – and is only up for handing over via third parties! However bitter he is, he cant deny the fact that WE are Djindy’s parents.

Djindyhas not had shared parenting at all. It was SPLIT parenting, and, allthough Djindy is a strong and wholesome and clever boy – this is causing him major distress that can’t be denied. Before he left, he was begging me to call him on the phone. When I tried, Matt said he has no mobile any more, no landline, and he wont Skype us. !!!!

Justicwe is not always ont he side of those who hate the Court%!

What means can I have to not be denied my basic and parental riights?
Nobody wants the whole family handcuffed and locked up!I don’t! Matt’s father’s helath cannot take this well! Matt, everybody is suffering from this!

So please reconsider. How is it in Djindy’s interest to tear him off his Mom with whom they have an absolutely loving, peaceful, wholesome relationship? Djindy tells me every day thatt he loves me! And now 3 months AGAIN and he doesn’t even know if I am alive any more!

THIS IS NOT ANYONES INTEREST, MOST OF ALL NOT DJINDY’S!

So please, if anyone knows anything about them, let me know, here or elsewhere, as everyone, all of Djindy’s family on both sides are extremely worried and concerned! This is all just going to get worse for everyone, if we go on like this. But i still do believe there is a way to sort this all out!

JJUSTICE FOR DJINDY AND HIS MOTHER!

balanced view


Monday's Update

07.04.2009 15:15

Monday 6th April a.m.
The High Court of Injustice has accused Judith, Andrew and Bex Wilson of lying to the court and is threatening to imprison them today if Djindra does not reappear.
Judith & Andrew (Djindy's grandparents) were arrested in the early hours of Thursday morning. They were detained overnight then taken to London to appear as witnesses before the court. They had no legal advice and were without representation. They were led to the court in handcuffs, were accused of lying to the judge and threatened with imprisonment in Holloway / Wandsworth. They were told to get a message to their eldest daughter that she would be in front of the court on Monday if Mr and Mrs Wilson did not furnish them with the information they wanted. Andrew was taken into hospital in an ambulance on Saturday after an ECG having had pins & needles in his arm and feeling short of breath. He is due to reappear in the High Court on Monday at 2pm.
Judith & Andrew do not know Matt & Djindy's whereabouts nor how to contact them.

Bex (Djindy's aunty) was told on Thursday afternoon that she would be called to the court the following Monday dependent on her parents conduct the following day. She was then arrested at roughly 6pm and separated from her son (Djindy's best friend and cousin). She was detained overnight then taken to London to appear before the court on Friday. She was led to the court in handcuffs, surrounded by 3 private security guards. With no sleep for 48 hours, barely any food, confused, scared and disorientated, she was cross examined for nearly 2 hours. She was advised that she did not need legal representation but as it turned out, if she had not had a barrister to defend her, she would have been sent to Holloway for the weekend. (Bex had had less than 10 minutes to talk to him before appearing in court). The judge accused her of lying on 5 points and charged her with contempt of court, which means that she now has to engage the services of a different solicitor. She is back in court today, potentially facing imprisonment.
Bex does not know Matt & Djindy's whereabouts nor how to contact them.

Joe (Djindy's uncle) went to the court on Friday to support the family and was served with an order to appear before the court and cross questioned for half an hour. He was made to surrender personal bank, email and phone information to the court.
Joe does not know Matt & Djindy's whereabouts nor how to contact them.

Sam (Djindy's uncle) went to the court on Friday to support the family and was served with an order to appear before the court today.
Sam does not know Matt & Djindy's whereabouts nor how to contact them.

None of the family know Matt & Djindy's whereabouts or how to contact them, yet the judge is able to imprison anyone if he feels they aren't telling the truth – how do you prove that you don't know something?! Anyone who knows Matt or Djindy could be pulled in by the High Court of Injustice and asked where they are. Even if they tell the truth it is the judge's prerogative not to believe them. They will be ruled to be in contempt of court and may be imprisoned indefinitely.


Monday 6th April 09 (evening)
Sam, Andrew and Bex all appeared before the judge, the same judge who had made the original judgement and, after enduring more hostile questioning and accusations, have all now been released.

The judge stated that he believes Sam is lying as he obviously used his extensive legal experience to advise Matt. (Sam is a support worker who, amongst other things, helps his clients with their DLA claims. Hardly in the same league as The Royal Courts of Justice.)

The judge stated that he still believed that Bex was lying and it was only because of his consideration for her son Loki that she was released.

Who's next?

Anyone who has ever met Djindra or Matt could know their whereabouts and could conceivably be treated in the same unjustifiable and unacceptable way that the Wilson family have been.

This cannot be allowed to continue.

No-one wants Matt & Djindy to be in hiding. It isn't good for Djindy, Loki, Matt, Kisanna, the grandparents, uncles, aunties....no-one. Neither is it in Djindy's best interests for him to have his dad, family, cousin, friends, community, culture taken from him and to be taken back to permanently live in Hungary.

There must be a way to stay the court's outrageous behaviour and re-look at the case, finding a better solution, which puts Djindra first.
Surely common sense can prevail and a mediated and balanced solution found for Djindy's well being and the well-being of everyone else involved.

DJINDRA FIRST!

Djindy First!
- Homepage: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=76276053553


not worth its salt

07.04.2009 15:46

so anonymous person with access to private emails, you know the situation yes?
you sound like someone with a personal grievance against the Wilsons not an impartial observer. there are no 'secret' emails,no conspiracy to kidnap as you claim. earthworm is a housing cooperative not a hotbed of extremity. noone has been forced out, people have left, that happens in housing cooperatives. it may be radical to want to live in a low impact way using consensus and mutual aid but it is not extreme.

i'm not going to discuss Kisanna's behaviour with you, but to call it dignified is beyond a joke.

You've have obviously spoken to Kisanna about this and are now playing the role of mouthpiece but your 'facts' can be easily disproved.

Before you slander the Wilson family anymore, i suggest you identify yourself and stand by your comments rather than snipe & swipe from the sidelines

in love & light

maria


Providing some balance

07.04.2009 16:55

I am Djindy's Granny from mother's side.

It is ridiculous that Matt and his family believe that they are right and things had been going on well until Kisanna, the mother intervened and the Court, also the British High Court declared that Matt did not have the right to keep Djindy back after the agreed time (end of January).

Kisanna, the mother has never wanted to tear Djindy off his father. After trying to negotiate many times, she sent an e-mail saying that she had started a legal process in Hungary that would decide if the "shared" parenting served Djindy's interst or if it was better to have a more settled life and spend 2-3 weeks every 2-3 months in England. This does not mean separation from the father and this is not the verdict but something that Kisanna wanted. The verdict would be a decision based on both parties' interests and statements, and most importantly considering Djindy's wellbeing. This suggession aggrevated Matt so much that he got into the concept that he would never see Djindy again.

We have known nothing of Djindy (4,5) since Xmas. They lived at a place you can see at  http://www.diggersanddreamers.org.uk/index.php?one=pnv&two=det&sel=earthw but we only knew the name of the place not the location, not the town or anything to identify it. Matt claimed in his written statemt to the Court that he did not want Djindy to talk to his mother because they would have talked in Hungarian. But he e-mailed us that he had told Djindy that his mother would kidnap him.

Matt is driving his family into a situation that is unberable. He is hiding somewhere with Djindy who must be exposed to a situation which is neither safe nor child-friendly. The Wilsons do not see that it is not Kisanna who caused their humiliation and stress. I hope at least the public can understand a mother who fights to have her son back and has to confront with all the lies that has been presented from the father's side. They do not remember or do not know anything. They say that they have not tried to contact Matt, a member of their family since he has disappeared because "this is not the way their family works". They did not remember that Matt had a mobile. They have even hinted that Matt could be dead.

Where does it all go? Where is Djindy? If someone knows anything, please contact us:
 hunyam@hdsnet.hu; 36-70-223-1244

Marta Hunya
mail e-mail: hunyam@hdsnet.hu


balance?

07.04.2009 21:15

None of the previous comments which claim to be balanced are balanced - how can they be impartial or balanced when they come from
- Marta Hunya (Djindy's Hungarian grandma) who is clearly heavily involved in the preparation and execution of this attempt to gain permanent residency for Djindy in Hungary
- and a person who's left the earthworm community owing debts to the co-op and with a personal grudge? (To the latter person, shame on you that your own selfish motives couldn't be put to one side at this terrible time).

Many of these 'balanced' comments include statements and 'facts' which are either untrue or contain half truths. This is also true of statements in the original affidavit, sworn on oath by Kisanna - the foundation stone of this whole case and the thing that initiated this travesty of justice.

We are now working through 2 years' worth of emails in order to be able to prove this and provide the evidence, something Matt was never given the time-opportunity to do.

We are also taking further legal advice in order to uphold Djindy's needs & rights to access his family in this country and their right to spend time with Djindy. If you are able to help in this area, please get in touch.

This is a very complicated situation, but truth and justice must come through.
If you see the comment from Carys on facebook, despite her criticising matt's actions in disappearing and those of the people trying to resolve this situation by trying to spread the word of this travesty via facebook, she states how Matt is a brilliant father. As someone who clearly knows father and son, how does this compare to the 'balanced' comments accusing matt of being an extreme, controlling and irresponsible father. The truth will come through and justice will be found.

Maybe there are better ways of seeking justice than the ones we are trying, but at least we are trying...if you can think of better ways, please say and or do, don't just sit on the sidelines and criticise!!!

Matt & Djindy's disappearance is good for no-one, nor is it good for Djindy to be returned to be permanently resident in Hungary, without access to his dad, half of his family, life and culture.

This is about Djindy's life, his right and need for two loving parents. This should not be about either parent's lifestyle. Kisanna & Marta, why would you be portraying Matt as an extreme anarchist who is an irresponsible parent, living in an extreme environment and Kisanna as the clean cut, law abiding, poor mother if not to prejudice this case. Kisanna, how many months ago did you cut off your dreads?

Lets not forget either, the extremely disproportionate conduct of the court towards innocent family members, which has highlighted a ridiculous grey area between family & criminal law, where people can be arrested, detained without charge and imprisoned, yet aren't expected to have legal representation. Who's next?

Kisanna & Marta, please use your position to stop this nonsense, take this out of court, agree & put it out in the press that Matt & Djindy can legally come out of hiding, then it can come out of the public arena and go to professional mediation and make an arrangement which puts Djindy first, so Djindy can return to be the bright spark in ALL of our lives.

in hope

Joe
at earthworm
where the only extreme thing is this issue

joe


kisanna and marta

07.04.2009 21:30

marta.. yet again you appear, still talking rubbish and absent at the time when your input might actually have been significant..
some answers to your points:
you say matt "fobbed kisanna off until the end of january"... why did he have to? because kisanna had openly blackmailed matt clearly stating that she would only send djindy back in december (even though this was the agreement) if matt returned him in january... after sharing parenting for equal lengths of time up till then what gave her the right to suddenly cut matts time with djindi by 3 months?
kisanna was saying that matt was free to chat to djindi while djindi was with her.. absolute rubbish.. you arranged to contact us once and then at the last minute announced djindi didnt feel like it and then, the day before djindi came back to england, you called unannounced and put djindi on the phone to his grandma.. which served only to confuse him as he'd had no contact up until that point
you make a point about matt processing british citizenship.. why is this a problem? after all djindi is half british
yes, as you say kisanna has received various emails from a lot of members of our family, all trying to prevent any situation like this occuring, all supporting matt and djindi and trying to persuade kisanna to see sense and act rationally
to say that matt is a "controlling and agressive father" is absolute bullshit, when did you even last see him with djindi? matt is a brilliant caring father who'd do anything for djindi, would you like me to provide character statements?
kisanna was apparently happy to go for mediation, why then, when matts solicitor repeatedly contacted her solicitor requesting mediation did she not even bother to respond?
why have you not even mentioned the fact that to get the matter into court kisanna blatantly lied in an affidavit.. did djindi have habitual residence in hungary? only came here for occasional holidays?
no
even you and kisanna cannot twist the truth to answer that
in this time when i think everybody is worried for the wellfare of matt and djindi i dont think cheap snipes and lies are very helpful

hannah short


What a terrible situation for a child...

08.04.2009 01:24

"if it was better to have a more settled life and spend 2-3 weeks every 2-3 months in England. This does not mean separation from the father"

How on earth is that anything but seperation?

TBH I feel little sympathy for an "anarchist" who tries to use the state to have a child removed from a parent.

an outsider


JUSTICE FOR DINDY AND DJINDY’S MOTHER

08.04.2009 08:06

JUSTICE FOR DINDY AND DJINDY’S MOTHER

Dear everyone, this is Kisanna, the mother of Djindy. Please, let’s look at this case from the other side, too.

I HAVE BEEN DENIED ANY CONTACT WITH MY SON AND ALL INFORMATION ABOUT HIM FOR MORE THAN THREE MONTHS! Can you imagine, what this is like?
The person closest to me, born from my body, a part of me, Love itself to me!

When Djindy is with me, Matt is free to talk to him, and I write 2-weekly updates on his wellbeing: what he plays, his friends, his like and dislikes, new and old habits – well, his life. This has not been happening from Matt’s side at all. I read English tales to him almost every day to kep his English up. Last time Djindy came back from Matt, he had been so isolated, that he forgot Hungarian as well.His mother tongue!

I have been trying to negotiate on Djindy’s life with Matt for years now. Tried to offer mediation. I was humiliated, neglicted and denied my basic rights.The response to the points I made were that they are either not worth responding to or that I was an idiot. This was getting worse and worse. Since 1,5 years, Matt doesn’t even want to see my face – who knows why – and is only up for handing over via third parties! However bitter he is, he cant deny the fact that WE are Djindy’s parents.

Djindy has not had shared parenting at all. It was SPLIT parenting, and, allthough Djindy is a strong and wholesome and clever boy – this is causing him major distress that can’t be denied. Before he left, he was begging me to call him on the phone. When I tried, Matt said he has no mobile any more, no landline, and he wont Skype us. !!!! Matt deceipted me when promised he’d bring him back by the end of january! Now it is April!

There are cases when the Royal Courts of Justice is onthe side of Justice! Family matters are taken very seriously there and dealt with by people who care for childrens wellfare an awful lot!

What means can I have to not be denied my basic and parental riights?
Nobody wants the whole family handcuffed and locked up!I don’t! Matt’s father’s helath cannot take this well! Matt, everybody is suffering from this!

So please reconsider. How is it in Djindy’s interest to tear him off his Mom with whom they have an absolutely loving, peaceful, wholesome relationship? Djindy tells me every day thatt he loves me! And now 3 months AGAIN and he doesn’t even know if I am alive any more!

THIS IS NOT ANYONES INTEREST, MOST OF ALL NOT DJINDY’S!

So please, if anyone knows anything about them, let me know, here or elsewhere, as everyone, all of Djindy’s family on both sides are extremely worried and concerned! This is all just going to get worse for everyone, if we go on like this. But i still do believe there is a way to sort this all out!

JUSTICE FOR DJINDY AND HIS MOTHER!

 kisannapanka@gmail.com
JUSTICE FOR DINDY AND DJINDY’S MOTHER

Dear everyone, this is Kisanna, the mother of Djindy. Please, let’s look at this case from the other side, too.

I HAVE BEEN DENIED ANY CONTACT WITH MY SON AND ALL INFORMATION ABOUT HIM FOR MORE THAN THREE MONTHS! Can you imagine, what this is like?
The person closest to me, born from my body, a part of me, Love itself to me!

When Djindy is with me, Matt is free to talk to him, and I write 2-weekly updates on his wellbeing: what he plays, his friends, his like and dislikes, new and old habits – well, his life. This has not been happening from Matt’s side at all. I read English tales to him almost every day to kep his English up. Last time Djindy came back from Matt, he had been so isolated, that he forgot Hungarian as well.His mother tongue!

I have been trying to negotiate on Djindy’s life with Matt for years now. Tried to offer mediation. I was humiliated, neglicted and denied my basic rights.The response to the points I made were that they are either not worth responding to or that I was an idiot. This was getting worse and worse. Since 1,5 years, Matt doesn’t even want to see my face – who knows why – and is only up for handing over via third parties! However bitter he is, he cant deny the fact that WE are Djindy’s parents.

Djindy has not had shared parenting at all. It was SPLIT parenting, and, allthough Djindy is a strong and wholesome and clever boy – this is causing him major distress that can’t be denied. Before he left, he was begging me to call him on the phone. When I tried, Matt said he has no mobile any more, no landline, and he wont Skype us. !!!! Matt deceipted me when promised he’d bring him back by the end of january! Now it is April!

There are cases when the Royal Courts of Justice is onthe side of Justice! Family matters are taken very seriously there and dealt with by people who care for childrens wellfare an awful lot!

What means can I have to not be denied my basic and parental riights?
Nobody wants the whole family handcuffed and locked up!I don’t! Matt’s father’s helath cannot take this well! Matt, everybody is suffering from this!

So please reconsider. How is it in Djindy’s interest to tear him off his Mom with whom they have an absolutely loving, peaceful, wholesome relationship? Djindy tells me every day thatt he loves me! And now 3 months AGAIN and he doesn’t even know if I am alive any more!

THIS IS NOT ANYONES INTEREST, MOST OF ALL NOT DJINDY’S!

So please, if anyone knows anything about them, let me know, here or elsewhere, as everyone, all of Djindy’s family on both sides are extremely worried and concerned! This is all just going to get worse for everyone, if we go on like this. But i still do believe there is a way to sort this all out!

JUSTICE FOR DJINDY AND HIS MOTHER!

 kisannapanka@gmail.com

kisanna
mail e-mail: kisannapanka@gmail.com


why

08.04.2009 08:29

Joe and Hannah,

See how hostile you still are?

MAtt ALWAYS was open to talk to Djindy, but he did not want to.

I never wanted to split them, as even an outsider can see.

I ahve not lied in the affidavit. Djindy was born and raised inHUngary till he was 1,5. That is where he is registered, cared for, educated and he is a HUngarian citizen. And for your information, that is what the whole court proceeding was bout. That is a decision after thorough examination.

I cut my dreads off 2 years ago, JOe, why?

WHERE ARE THEY???????????

kisanna


It's all about the contract between the parents

08.04.2009 09:41

What a sad situation all round! Matt, if you're reading this, all I can say is, 'hope you're okay.'

Basically, as somebody with a reasonable amount of knowledge of how Common Law (i.e. not Criminal Law) works, the crux of all this is whether there was a contract. If both parents had an access agreement between them that one parent decided to break, this is effectively a breach of contract.

From the comments on here, the contract is summarised by one party to be 'Djindy was resident in Hungary, with short trips to the UK', and by the other to be 'Djindy had absolutely equal time with both parents.' To me, as an outsider, this is what everything hinges on. None of the other speculation and back biting will have much influence on the outcome of this.

The Wilson's need to gather evidence to prove the amount of time that the child spent in the UK. If the statements made in the sworn afadavit are a lie, then you need to prove it with evidence (train tickets? photos? witness statements?) that Djindy spent months at a time here in Britain.

Once all of this is resolved, one way or another, the courts will seek to draw up a new contract. You therefore need to know exactly what you want that to contain, and what you want all the terms and conditions to be.

As there has now been, in the eyes of the law, a 'kidnapping', this is being treated as a Criminal offence. So effectively there's now Criminal Law involved as well, so two types of legal processes are churning through this. It might help to regard the kidnapping as a seperate issue from the parenting agreement.

I hope what I've commented is of some use. It is very difficult for anyone to know exactly what is going on, here, and the only way to know for sure is to have a written transcript of everything that was said in that court.

Seafox (an ex-housemate of Matt and Djindy)


Hannah, Joe, please

08.04.2009 09:59

Djindy
Djindy

Dear Hannah, please take some time before you say things that are false. Just re-read the comments again, half of the statements that you are arguing against saying that they come from me are from comments of different people. It is absolutely untrue that Matt was refused to talk to Djindy - he has NEVER initiated a talk, and he said that he only wanted to talk if Djindy wanted. This was not the case with Kisanna: she wanted to talk, initiated different calls and was not let talk to Djindy. More members questioned her rights to. When at Xmas time Djindy talked to the whole family it was he, the child who suddenly got into the mood of talking while I was talking to his English Granny, and he was not confused at all.

I haven't said a word about Earthworm, I just put a link without describing it.

All who read this and are able PLEASE HELP US FIND DJINDY and get him out of this. He is not just missing, he has been KIDNAPPED and this is a CRIME.

Marta


Hannah, Joe

08.04.2009 10:06

Dear Hannah, please take some time before you say things that are false. Just re-read the comments again, half of the statements that you are arguing against saying that they come from me are from comments of different people. It is absolutely untrue that Matt was refused to talk to Djindy - he has NEVER initiated a talk, and he said that he only wanted to talk if Djindy wanted. This was not the case with Kisanna: she wanted to talk, initiated different calls and was not let talk to Djindy. More members questioned her rights to. When at Xmas time Djindy talked to the whole family it was he, the child who suddenly got into the mood of talking while I was talking to his English Granny, and he was not confused at all.

I haven't said a word about Earthworm, I just put a link without describing it.

All who read this and are able PLEASE HELP US FIND DJINDY and get him out of this. He is not just missing, he has been KIDNAPPED and this is a CRIME.

Marta


please respond to what i wrote on facebook

08.04.2009 12:48

hello
i am someone who is very close to both matt and djindy, and would like to say to both marta and kisanna, stop shouting for djindy. you know matt loves him dearly, that he is in no danger. breathe. you do not have access to him because you started this ridiculous court case. CALL OFF THE COURTS, offer mediation, and hopefully if matt is reading this he will engage with that. you have left him with no other option than this drastic one. STOP TAKING AWAY MATT'S RIGHTS AS A PARENT, and give him some better options. GIVE DJINDY SOME BETTER OPTIONS THAT INCLUDE BOTH PARENTS.
Matt is doing this from djindy's best interests, it is in DJINDY's best interest to have both a mother and a father. you have threatened to take his son from him for good. you need to stop this action, and proceed to mediation. as a mother i know how it must feel to not be with your child. but what you are doing is making that less likely, surely. As regards kidnapping, and equal parenting, Matt has not kidnapped Djindy because he is still within the time that he should have had him, by right of your common law agreement on equal parenting. In effect by you unilaterally having moved the goalposts without agreement, you were stating you would be kidnapping Djindy. Did you kidnap Djindy last year when you brought him back 6 weeks later than planned?????

emma


oops, apologies for inaccuracy

08.04.2009 16:48

hello again
just a little point, djindy was brought back 20 days late, not 6 weeks (just felt like it!), sorry, my memory is poor due to a health problem, and i should have checked.
emma

emma


sum

08.04.2009 16:49

I clearly think that this is not leading anywhere. I have been involved in me having to justify myself against accusations wich are not true for a too long time. This is shurely not for the public, it is not Djindy's interest. However, if anyone can or wants to help, they shall write me at  kisannapanka@gmail.com or call me on 003670 2484869. This is what publicity can be good for.

kisanna


a letter

11.04.2009 12:11

I am writing to you on behalf of my friend, Matt Wilson, and Matt's son, Djindra Szabo, about whom this matter is primarily concerned. I am contacting you to ask if you would be kind enough to advise and assist Matt and his family, with regard to recent events, the facts of which are as follows.

Matt Wilson has for some time been resident in Leintwardine, Shropshire. His 4 1/2 year old son, Djindra Szabo, of whom he has partial custody has also resided there. Custody has been shared with Djindra's mother, Kisanna Szabo, who is both a citizen and resident of Hungary. The agreed arrangement, to ensure that Djindra benefits from both parents and both cultures, has been that Djindra will spend alternate periods of three to four months with each parent, and Djindra has spent about one third of his life in each country, and one third travelling elsewhere. However, there have been a number of occasions when Kisanna has autonomously broken agreed arrangements, and on one occasion whilst travelling, failed to return Djindra from India for a period of several weeks, causing great concern to Matt, in England.
In December 2008, Kisanna announced that she would only bring Djindra back to Matt in the UK, at the end of the month, as was previously agreed, if Matt was prepared to promise to return him to Hungary by the end of January 2009. On their return to Hungary Matt would appear before the Hungarian court and a proposal 'that he (Djindra) lives in Hungary and spends 2-3 weeks with his dad every 2-3 months'. If Matt failed to promise to do this, Kisanna threatened not to return Djindra to Matt at all. Under this duress, Matt agreed to return Djindra by the end of January 2009. As it turned out, there had been no Hungarian court summons for the end of January, and having requested copies of the legal documentation from Kisanna & her mother Marta Hunya and receiving no such court documentation, Matt did not return Djindra, feeling able to continue being custodian of Djindra for the previously accepted period of 3-4 months.

On Friday, February 27th, at 11 p.m. of this year, an injunction was served on Matt. A court case had been initiated by Ms. Szabo who had sworn an affidavit claiming that Djindra had 'habitual residence' in Hungary and only travelled to the UK for occasional holidays to see his dad. From my own meetings with Matt, over a period of several months, I can say that this is by no means the case, and Djindra has spent a considerable and significant amount of time living with his father, with whom he has an entirely positive relationship. There are a number of people who can corroborate this, and who are currently gathering evidence – I.e. proof of travel, correspondence regarding arrangements, witnesses etc. - to this effect, and it appears that Kisanna may have lied under oath. However, Matt was given only a brief and inadequate period of a few days in which to prepare his case, before coming to court on March 9th. After Court hearings and Appeals, in quick succession, the High Court, on Wednesday, April 1st, ruled to return Djindra to Hungary, with the implication that Matt's access to his son would be severely restricted in future and the agreement of equal parenting would be ended, without Matt's consent, and without any discussion as to Djindra's rights or well-being at all.

Again, I would re-iterate that Matt has an entirely positive, loving, close and supportive relationship with his son. I have myself worked as a Family Support Worker and am trained in recognising and dealing with issues within families. Yet I am absolutely confident in saying that at no point have I, or as far as I am aware, anyone else had any reason to doubt Matt's competence and commitment as a father. In fact, I would say he is exceptional on both counts. There is no basis of which I am aware, legally, ethically, or practically, to limit Matt's access to Djindra, and it could only be detrimental to Djindra to do so.

Precisely because of this commitment to his son, Matt has chosen not to comply with the court order, and has instead chosen to take Djindra into his own care, and has not shared his whereabouts. Prior to the order, I am not aware of any legal, practical or ethical reason why he should not do so, and as there appears to be no basis or need for this order which may have been based on false evidence, it is arguable whether there is any reason for him not to do so even now.

Subsequent to this, the High Court has pursued the wider Wilson family (Matt's parents Andrew and Judith, and siblings Joe, Bex and Sam) in an attempt to gain information regarding Matt and Djindra's whereabouts. Clearly, it is appropriate for a court to try to locate a child when there is an order in place, no matter how dubious the grounds of that order may be. However, the means by which this has been done appear draconian to say the least. Over the last week, the above people have had their homes raided, been cuffed and arrested, detained overnight, denied food whilst in custody, led into court in cuffs, had their email, facebook, phone and bank accounts exposed to scrutiny, passports confiscated, threatened with contempt of court and prison, repeatedly cross examined and wrongly accused of lying under oath. They were informed that, despite the above, they were not defendants but witnesses, and so did not require legal support or legal aid, which, therefore, would not be granted to them, if they applied for it. Under the circumstances, they felt it more than necessary to gain representation, which has cost them so far £1,000 per day. Bex was arrested in front of her own young son on Thursday to his great upset and bewilderment (despite local police believing she had no knowledge of Matt's whereabouts and being very reluctant to arrest her), and was threatened by the Judge on both Friday and Monday with being sent away to Holloway and separated from her son. Andrew was taken to hospital, by ambulance, on Saturday, with high blood pressure severely exacerbated by this situation. At no point were they offered the chance to attend court voluntarily which would have avoided all this unnecessary and exceptionally harsh treatment.

Despite all these threats, the court has proved only what the family have maintained all along - that they have no notion of Matt and Djindra's whereabouts, and that he has made no attempt to inform them of his plans or location or communicate with them in any way. They have attempted to contact him both out of concern and at the court's instruction, but have been unable to do so. Other than interrogating family members, we are aware of no other attempts to locate Djindra, which if this was motivated only by an attempt to find him and concern for his welfare would seem, at the very least, shoddy. Whilst this process seems now to have subsided, the court left the matter with the threat that they intend only to exert more powers and that "things will only get worse" whilst Matt and Djindra remain unlocated. It is not clear what powers they intend to use, or what precisely could be "worse" than the events of this last week.

The matter seems to revolve around the basis for the court decision to return Djindra to Hungary, thus restricting Matt's chance of being allowed equal access to his son. As I say, this decision may be flawed for a number of reasons: That Kisanna may have lied under oath regarding Djindra's habitual residence and that neither this nor her own behaviour with regard to custody arrangements have been investigated; that Matt was given insufficient time to prepare a case to counter Kisanna's claim and the case should in fact have been adjourned to allow for this, if it were in any way to be fair; that there has never been concern about Matt's ability to parent, and so no basis on which to restrict his access to Djindra; that at no point in this process has Djindra himself been able to participate in any way [even by proxy], and nor have his rights nor well-being been discussed or considered by the Court (Matt requested that Djindra was represented, but this was not ever properly addressed); that, under these circumstances, this ruling may constitute a breach of Djindra's, Matt's and the entire family's right, under the European Convention of Human Rights, [to enjoy an uninterrupted family life]. If this decision is so flawed, as I and many others believe it to be, then Matt's sense that he was unable to comply with what appears to have been an unjust ruling, would seem to be justifiable.

In light of this, it would seem that further investigation is essential, to avoid a miscarriage of justice and ensure that Djindra's best interests are thoroughly understood and upheld. The family have therefore sought to re-open the original case and bring the evidence which Matt was unable to, given the incredibly brief period of preparation he was allowed. However, in Matt's absence, he is unable to instruct his solicitor to pursue the matter further or to release information. Further, despite Andrew and Judith being named in the original affidavit, their repeated requests to exercise their right to a copy of this affidavit have been ignored by Kisanna's solicitors. Further to this, they raised this issue with the court, and the court did not even acknowledge their communication.

Whilst the family, aided by friends and many supporters, are investigating various ways forward, such as bringing a counter-case against Kisanna, or a case exerting their own rights under the European Convention, it is hard at this point to see a way of progressing this matter to a fair and just conclusion, whereby Matt would feel able to return Djindra, without fear of unnecessarily losing his son, and the apparent persecution of this innocent family could stop.

It is for this reason that I am now urgently contacting you regarding this matter. The family are currently pursuing legal representation, though they recognise that this may take some time, [which commodity is at a premium, just now]. In the meantime, there are a number of pressing questions and concerns:

There are severe and unanswered concerns over the legality and justification of the exceptionally harsh treatment that the family have received over the course of this week and of the powers exerted in this.
There are the concerns, outlined above, about the legality of the court ruling, the veracity of Kisanna's evidence and the omission of both Matt and Djindra's evidence, corroborated by many others.
It remains unclear how the family can pursue this matter further, either by re-opening the original case or by bringing another, and advice is sought on this.
There is grave concern that the matter as it stands may constitute a severe breach under both British and European law, of the rights of the whole family, of Matt, and of course, primarily, the rights of Djindra himself.

In light of all this, I earnestly request that you support and advise this family on the above matters, to advocate on behalf of them, and in whatever way possible, to pursue the progression of the case to a thorough and just conclusion in which the rights of this whole Family and the well-being of Djindra are upheld.

Please contact the family on 01547 540461 or via  http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=76276053553

from a friend