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Protester Dies whilst "Police are getting Bottled" says the Police.

jo | 01.04.2009 21:57 | G20 London Summit

From Sky News report...

Protester Dies whilst "Police are getting Bottled" says the Police. a few minutes ago the protestor was found around 7:30pm around the Bank of England whilst police where clearing the building... The Police says that they were getting "Bottled" by protesters whilst trying to help the man.

Hmmmm nice statement there from the Police and Sky there...

No news has to how or why the person has died as yet.

jo

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Police says that he had "Fallen over" and stopped breathing.

01.04.2009 22:05

Police says that he had "Fallen over" and stopped breathing.

Jo

poor guy

01.04.2009 22:20

i saw the same thing about a month ago in a village near me, a guy in his 50s just keeled over and had and had a heart attack. Read in paper later that he'd died at the scene. Its all too common unfortunately, my thoughts go with his family

Nig

killed by police?

01.04.2009 22:34

what's this guy's name and where was he when this happened? near rbs? this is potentially huge. please find out

maydayer

Police are now saying it's from Natural Clauses

01.04.2009 22:39

Police are now saying it's from Natural Clauses... considering the police history of cover ups "Hillsborough" and another day of protest tomorrow I'll take such statements with a pinch of salt.

Jo

G20 death - what i've heard

01.04.2009 22:42

The boyfriend of my sisters friend works for the bank of england in the museum (yea, they have a museum). Apparently the deceased is a middle aged man was found face up near some steps, he was not breathing when found and he appeared to have been struck on the top right of the head as there was blood. The police were apparently very evasive when asked by bank staff as to what happened. This is only what i've heard so i cant confirm if it is 100% accurate

Noddy the Ninja

strange comment... nig

01.04.2009 22:42

very strange comment. why sbody would comment on indy so quickly that he "believes" that it is a heart attack in an indirect way?

very similar propaganda... all the time...

question

More info.

01.04.2009 22:48

30 year old Male who was found collapsed, Police statement says "A member of the public went to a police officer on a cordon in Birchin Lane, junction with Cornhill to say that there was a man who had collapsed round the corner.

"That officer sent two police medics through the cordon line and into St Michael's Alley where they found a man who had stopped breathing."


How and why he stopped breathing we do not know as yet but for a 30 year old male to be found collapsed doesn't make you wonder if it was anything to do with actions of the day.

Jo

news from...brisbane times

01.04.2009 22:49

 http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/man-dead-at-violent-g20-protest-20090402-9k03.html

A man has died after collapsing at a demonstration in London's financial district ahead of the Group of 20 economic crisis summit in the British capital, the London Ambulance Service said.

The man fell over yesterday and became unconscious, prompting a member of the public to call emergency services, an ambulance spokeswoman said. He was still breathing at the time but died despite attempts to resuscitate him.

It was not immediately clear how the man died, although some people had earlier been injured when protesters held in a police cordon near the Bank of England surged against the crash barriers.

''We received a 999 (emergency) call at 7:24pm (0524 AEDT Thursday) from a member of the public reporting that a man had fallen over and was unconscious, but was breathing,'' said the London Ambulance Service.

''At 7:30pm we were informed by the police that a man at the location had stopped breathing.''

He was moved to a quieter area where a police officer started to carry out CPR before ambulance staff arrived to treat him. They ''made extensive efforts to resuscitate him both there and on the way to hospital'', she said.

AFP

jack

statement from imc london

01.04.2009 22:49

just now, imc london has issued a statement about the death of a man during todays protests in London:

"Mainstream media sources, including ITV and the BBC, report the death of a protestor this evening. We are not able to confirm any details about the circumstances and call people who may have witnessed something to send us first hand accounts. All information at the moment seems to originate from the police or rumors (which we do not wish to spread any further)."

transmitter

IPCC involvement

01.04.2009 22:53

A protester called the police after they saw the man collapse and stop breathing in St Michael’s Alley, near Birchin Lane just off Cornhill shortly before 7.30pm.

Two police medics broke through the cordon and carried the man to a clear area in front of the Royal Exchange where they gave him CPR.

The ambulance arrived six minutes later and took him to hospital just before 8pm, where he was pronounced dead.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: “The officers took the decision to move him as during this time a number of missiles - believed to be bottles - were being thrown at them.”

It is believed that the man died of a heart attack.

The Directorate of Professional Standards at both the MPS and City of London Police have been informed. The IPCC is also being told.

Telegraph
- Homepage: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5091306/G20-summit-Leaders-target-bankers.html

Was this is Cornhill near where the action was taking place?

01.04.2009 22:54

A youngish bloke next to me said he suffered from claustrophobia, then sat down on the pavement with his head in his hands, back to the wall. He didn't look at all well.

This was after we had all been moved into a crush by some brain-dead police pushing us towards Bank station yelling at us to move "straight on". Even though there was nowhere to move to. A few minutes before a few people were in a recessed doorway, out of harms way. Thanks to the police we were then penned in, jostling with very little room. Like battery chickens, perhaps.

Then this young bloke all but collapsed. A woman protestor told the police that somebody had fainted. Two thuggish "police medics", complete with riot sticks, and a rough guy in plain clothes came through the police line and took him out, back into the same doorway mentioned above. I don't know if the plain-clothes man was a cop. But he was rough, needing to push people because of the little space.

There was another young bloke with this guy and he tried to go through the police line. They wouldn't let him at first. A policeman on the line asked him if the collapsed guy was taking any drugs or alcohol "because the medics will need to know". After a couple of minutes he was let through.

Last I saw the guy was on the ground in the doorway with two "police medics" bent down next to him. This was when we were allowed out of the line and back further up Cornhill.

If it was this guy who died, I feel sorry for him.

Cedric Jebedee

MAKE NOTES

01.04.2009 23:00

The post says it was near Bank of England, not RBS, and the fact it happened around 7.30 means it was was unlikely to be to do with actions at RBS, which were much earlier.

Police statement is contemptible. This is a result of their tactics, and probably their violence, too.

IF ANYONE SAW ANYTHING which was, or might have, been connected with this guy's death;

1. Make full notes of everything you saw. However tired you are DO IT NOW. Lots of little details which seem unimportant will go out of your head if you sleep before you write. Those details might become very important later, depending what lies the cops tell.

2. Photocopy your notes tomorrow and leave a copy in a safe place or type them up and email to several people.

3. Get in touch with the legal team. Climate Camp has one, not sure if Meltdown does, but probably. Failing that, solicitors on the bust card, Hodge Jones & Allen.

Stroppyoldgit
mail e-mail: dodgy@umpire.com

reply to question

01.04.2009 23:00

very strange comment. why sbody would comment on indy so quickly that he "believes" that it is a heart attack in an indirect way?

i'm sorry was just commenting on what i had heard on news that they suspected it was a heart attack, I don't see why that is a strange comment. You are insinuating something. It is just what made me think of what i'd seen locally.

nig

Photos

01.04.2009 23:02

Some photographer has thought it a good idea to publish photos of the guy lying on the ground and getting treatment in the ambulance. I won't link to it but you can google "Man dies"+"Bank of England".

sick

Cedric Jebedee...

01.04.2009 23:11

From a Press Association statement, it seems that you may well have been a witness...

"A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "A member of the public went to a police officer on a cordon in Birchin Lane, junction with Cornhill to say that there was a man who had collapsed round the corner.

"That officer sent two police medics through the cordon line and into St Michael's Alley where they found a man who had stopped breathing.""

Be good to get any more details noted down while they're still fresh.

sally

What I Saw

01.04.2009 23:15

I saw the guy on the floor. We'd been getting pushed back by police lines for a while, he was quite far back, didn't see how or why he collapsed. Police were called over by protesters and around 8 came over and surrounded him while 2 medics worked on him. Sorry to say but a couple of bottles were thrown at the cops while they were surrounding him, again don't know the reasons but there had been some batton charges recently and people were angry. None hit the guy on the floor from what I saw but it was unfortunate to have happened. Everyone around shouted to everyone to stop and the medics took him away, an ambulance came a little after.

Not very nice at all, I can't blame the police from what I saw and as soon as everyone in the area knew what was going on everyone let the medics do their work. Very unfortunate, I'm sure we will find out more.

Macca

Independant Media

01.04.2009 23:25

There seems to be a post from the telegraph. I watched a video they put out, the kind of impartial reporting you'd expect in line with their politics presented by two handsome young, CLEAN shaven, well bread men telling the world how the wonderful British police are protecting us all from violent protestors. They were reveling in it, stood next to people who were penned in, beaten and generally abused by THEIR, the ruling classes best trained domestic attack dogs. What to these young up and coming intellects is an amusing spectacle is to any one who believes in freedom the all to predictable brute force of what one placard said as a response to 'what are you for?' - Not Rampant Greed.

tired

tired

01.04.2009 23:38

So, everyone who in this post and others who are saying police are responsible and swear that the reports of protestors throwing bottles is all made up? what is the point - indymedia is so full of untruthful rubbish

tired

For the IMC people some pictures of this person for recognition if it helps?

01.04.2009 23:53

Type "Man Dies" + "Bank of England" and look for the  http://www.javno.com/. there a number of them and just click the photo tab.

Jo

photos of man who died possibly these???

02.04.2009 01:27

 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Protests-G20-summit/ss/events/wl/040109g20protests#photoViewer=/090401/ids_photos_wl/r355992135.jpg

 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Protests-G20-summit/ss/events/wl/040109g20protests#photoViewer=/090401/ids_photos_wl/r2545538150.jpg

 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Protests-G20-summit/ss/events/wl/040109g20protests#photoViewer=/090401/ids_photos_wl/r2032239705.jpg

freedom

Corralls kill

02.04.2009 02:52

Could turn out to be someone killed by a truncheon blow, but if he just "fell over", I would guess it is because of the police "corrall" tactic which is potentially lethal. (If police medics were getting bottled then probably people mistook them for a snatch squad arresting the guy - a reasonable assumption if they saw police clustered around a prone man on the ground).

Possibilities:

He had a heart attack after being crushed between others when police rushed the crowd;

He was pepper sprayed, or hit by pepper spray thrown into the crowd, and this affected some pre-existing condition such as asthma so he stopped breathing;

He had a heart attack due to a panic attack from being trapped in the crowd;

He was suffering from dehydration from being held in the corrall too long and not having water.

CORRALLS KILL - the corrall tactic has always reminded me of HILLSBOROUGH.

Remember also the forerunners:
Protesters shot in Gothenburg;
Carlo Giuliani murdered in Genoa;
Another protester killed by police driving vehicles at crowds at Genoa;
Another found garrotted after vanishing during the protests;
Someone nearly killed after police cut a cord in Evian;
Someone run over by a train in the Gorleben protests;
Jill Phipps, run over by a lorry under police escort -
and this is just the cases from the global North, that instantly come to mind.

watcher

People who saw the man collapse

02.04.2009 12:45

If anyone saw this guy collapse or has any information, we're trying to get to the bottom of it.

Send me an e-mail if you want to talk, no names needed.

 richard.rogers@guardian.co.uk

Richard
mail e-mail: richard.rogers@guardian.co.uk