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Arrest in Plymouth - activists or terrorists?

Sapper | 30.03.2009 13:29

Several people arrested in Plymouth following a search which found 'weapons' and material relating to 'political ideology' but not religion. Worth watching in case it turns out to be activists/saboteurs smeared with terrorism whose situation subsequently gets D-noticed.

The Devon police website makes the following announcement:

Devon and Cornwall Police are currently detaining five people for offences under the Terrorism Act.

Three men aged 25yrs, 19 years and 16 years and two women aged 20 years, who all live in Plymouth or the surrounding area, were arrested between Friday, March 27 and Sunday, March 29.

The arrests were made after the 25-year-old man was arrested in Plymouth during the evening of Friday, March 27, on suspicion of criminal damage.

Police carried out a search of the man’s address and found three other persons at the premises who were arrested for drugs offences following the search.

As the search progressed officers found a number of weapons and suspected imitation weapons as well material relating to political ideology.

Also found were suspicious devices that were seized and submitted for forensic examination.

Following investigations on Sunday, March 29, a 19-year-old man was arrested and all five are now detained under the Terrorism Act.

Searches of addresses were carried out during the weekend in the Plymouth area and further searches are being considered.

As a result, police will be applying for a warrants of further detention this afternoon, Monday, March 30.

Police are keen to stress that enquiries indicate there is no religious agenda to the investigation. The incident has no connection with the recent conviction of Nicky Reilly and those arrested are not believed, at this stage, to be part of a national or larger operation.

Gold Commander Assistant Chief Constable Sharon Taylor said: “I would reassure local people and residents of Devon, Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly, that they are not at any risk and these arrests would appear to be isolated at this time.

“Those arrested people will remain in custody while further enquiries take place.”

Sapper
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Stones found in a rockery in Aberdeen could be linked to G20

30.03.2009 17:00

Police have found a stash of weapons outside the G20 site. Stones in a rockery of a pensioner in Aberdeen could be dug up, driven down to London and used to smash windows. A police spokesman said "We can't confim or a deny a direct connection with the G20 yet but we can confirm that one of the rocks looked a bit like a G if you squint your eyes and turn it on it's side, also there were more than 20 stones. Suspicions were rasied when police noticed a crude attempt to hide the stones by planting azelias around them.

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Who are they?

30.03.2009 13:53

The police seem fairly certain that they have arrested activists rather than terrorists and even they have admitted that – in their view – it was a small amount of explosives intended as a stunt. If it proves to be true then it will give the police the carte blanche to take a very tough line on any protests that occur on 1 April.

It will also mean that tomorrow’s mainstream media is going to wall-to-wall ‘G20 explosives’ stories which could massively discredit the protest. It’s vital that this issue is dealt with promptly by the Climate Camp.

Does anyone know who they are?

Josh


Fashion crime

30.03.2009 14:03

The spokesman added that police were seeing "an unprecedented level of activity amongst protest groups not seen since the late 1990s, involving some individuals we have not seen on the protest circuit for some time".
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/G20/article6002499.ece

"I think it was more designed to disrupt than injure or kill," the source said, adding that reports that the individuals were Greek nationals were false. It is understood that the "suspicious devices" found suggest a small-scale stunt. Unconfirmed reports said the individuals may have had "flares" in their posession.
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/30/g20-protest-explosives-plot-arrests














huh


what police have said

30.03.2009 14:08

In fact the police have said it wasn't explosives in terms of bomb making materials, but items seized under the explosives act - one report mentions a flare gun, another 'flares'. They also say the seized items could not be used to endanger life, but to cause disruption.

Obviously the press are gonna leap to 101 different conclusions before the police release the full details.

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/30/g20-protest-explosives-plot-arrests
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7972231.stm

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Evidence

30.03.2009 15:01

There seems to be no evidence what so ever that they had any intentions to use the flare or whatever at the G20 protests. Material related to political ideology does not prove intent! This just seems to be more media scaremongering.

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Fireworks and toy guns

30.03.2009 15:04

(Graffiti gets your house searched ??)

BBC-

All five people are being held under the Terrorism Act.

The arrests were made after the 25-year-old man was arrested in Plymouth on the evening of 27 March for allegedly spraying graffiti on a wall.

ACC Netherton said: "He was arrested and then the officer went back to this man's house and carried out a search.

"When he was searching the house he came across imitation firearms and also some devices which had basically been made from fireworks.

"And also he found some politically sensitive material and things like that."

hah
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Politically Motivated Arrests

30.03.2009 19:14

....it has to be. Since when was it a crime to keep flares? In Plymouth, a seaside town.

Just because they put some stuff up which wasn't nice about the Police's paymasters. Oh diddums.

BobBob
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Tennis Balls

30.03.2009 20:38

Some time ago I've read somewhere that few 'Free Palestine' activists got arrested and police has taken as evidence some tennis balls saying that they are potential weapons.

My son has two footballs, shoud I get rid of them?

George B


its all clear now

30.03.2009 21:05

i love how everyone jumps to the conclusion that they cannot possibly have any imitation weapons or explosive substances. No, that could never occur - lets just ignore the evidence make up conclusions ourselves out of harry potters hat. Actually, i cannot think of one single case where anyone in the UK has ever had imitation weapons, it simply have never happened and never will.

Such non-impartial assumptions just make people look foolish and naive

8 bells


@ 8 bells

30.03.2009 22:10

As far as I am aware imitation weapons are not illegal.

Law


fucking pigs

30.03.2009 22:31

Imitation weapons could mean something as harmless as fluorescent water-pistols.

I'd guess the "link to the G20" is that the graffiti was promoting the G20 demos which was presumably why the search was made. This reminds me of a few similar "scare" incidents before and during summits - the raids before Heiligendamm, the Germinal case before the Quebec protests and the RNC "terrorism" arrests (not satisfied with charging people over Molotov cocktails, the police are concocting stories about plans to blow up buildings). In the Germinal case it turned out that a police infiltrator had been assigned the key role of buying equipment and had substituted dangerous items for agreed ones (e.g. ball bearings for paintballs).

Doubtless it will come out in due course (how do they always manage to conceal who's been arrested and what's really happened in these kinds of "terror" cases anyway?!), but I wouldn't be surprised if they're finding excuses to keep them in during the G20 only to mysteriously drop the cases after.

fuck pigs


RE: fuck pigs

30.03.2009 22:57

police are scum, lowest of the low.
pigs are not.

RE: fuck pigs


Press Skew Reality Shocker

30.03.2009 23:31

Headline: FIVE HELD OVER G20 BOMB PLOT

1st Paragraph: FIVE bomb suspects have been arrested over a plot targeting this week’s G20 summit.

8th Paragraph: The materials, intended to disrupt rather than injure, were not bomb-making equipment.

Oh my lord.

watch yer liberties


daily start quotes

31.03.2009 00:38

>Oh my lord.
You've been quoting from the Daily Star's article.
Its not the best paper to try and quote accurate news from and then sigh in disbelief.


hoolio


@George B

31.03.2009 01:42

Get rid of your kids water pistols, they might be shot dead in the UK. Google "Super Soaker Flame".

Nuff said?

nah


"antifa"

31.03.2009 07:42

was apparently the graffiti, according to media sources.

billshutt


State/media fear tactics

31.03.2009 08:14

It's rather like the "tanks around Heathrow airport" stunt they pulled on 15th Feb 2003 at the time of the biggest demo in British history. Their attempt is to intimidate, but this is so transparently lame that it just makes the media look ridiculous.
Keep the actions militant!

not impressed


terrorists or activists?

31.03.2009 21:30

activists.

alex


Solidarity to those arrested

31.03.2009 22:16

Whether the grounds of the arrest, and whether the items found prove to be scaremongering, the reality is that of Monday night, people are still in custody under suspicion of serious offences.

I find it somewhat sickening that some people are more worried about how this will effect how we're portrayed in the media, rather than sending a simple message of solidarity to those locked up.

Cornish Resident


Support

01.04.2009 02:54

Fuck solidarity, better to provide some practical support. I'd chip in and fundraise for anyone who has their house searched just for spraypainting. And this case has been so widely hyped that I am sure more capable folk than me would help, like decent lawyers (and maybe even decent journalists and politicians if they exist) for example.

Danny


tips

01.04.2009 09:47

always remember when going to demos or actions.
-never take your keys.
-always lock your doors.
-try and leave someone in your house to watch it for you.
-never let the pigs in without a warrent

sounds like it wouldn't have worked in this case anyway. but still good ideas.
their more likely to try this sort of shit if they have the keys.

ivan the idealist


From terrorism to Disruption

07.04.2009 07:04

Yes, solidarity with those banged up is essential, that is the main reason I put the article on in the first place. The second reason for commenting from my point of view, is that this is an interesting article not only in the way that it is a further attempt to conflate 'weapons' 'explosives' and 'protest' under the terror label but also since it raises the ugly spectre of 'disruption' as if disruption is a matter for the law. Protest and disruption are synonymous - protesting is about disrupting a discourse, disruption is done in protest, and they are our right as a way to speak truth to fascism. So we have to be careful that protest does not become emasculated and ultimately synonymous in the public's mind with the monster Terror, this article shows that we are nearly at that point.

Sapper
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