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Act of cruelty from Lloyds List

Ilyan | 12.02.2009 19:39

THE sorry tale of seafarers onboard the Orient Steamship capesize bulker Silver Constellation being left unpaid and running out of food exposes an ugly underside of the global shipping industry.

The 25 Filipino crew onboard the vessel in Falmouth have not been paid for three months and are set to run out food in a matter of days, and its master is receiving no response from the company�s headquarters........ The continuation does not give enough data for any action against the head office or owners. I had that from a free email: Read the full news stories now by visiting www.lloydslist.com. Please feel free to forward this email bulletin to a colleague. If you are receiving a forwarded email sign up now at www.lloydslist.com to receive your own copy

Ilyan

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Refunding a smaller Economy for sustainable survival.

13.02.2009 12:41

I am a bit annoyed to find an earlier post of mine (Corporate Repost?) mangled and reposted without its quotation marks or original title under my name.

However for commentor Davey -

Here is another piece copied from  lloydslistbulletin@lloydslist.com that shows how dangerous Governments Economic Policies were. There could be many shipowners about to run out of money. Those soggy socialists who have sold out to the Capitalists and now form the UK Government are totally incompetent and about to totally destroy our Society with hyperinflation.

If they start printing money they should be hanged. The only option that can work now is a Progressive Tax on Wealth, coupled with the sort of income tax rate structure Stafford Cripps imposed. Ensure Fair Shares of Poverty.

"Stand firm
By Janet Porter
Thursday 12 February 2009
SEVERAL months ago when the financial crunch was still in its infancy and few could have envisaged how the crisis was going to unfold, some far-sighted shipowners were already talking to their banks to ensure loan agreements would be rolled over and credit lines kept open.

The advice last autumn was to call on the banks straightaway and not wait for the annual visit, as that could be too late.
Being proactive, rather than putting off the inevitable, still seems to be the most sensible course of action in such uncertain times.

Global Ship Lease’s decision to renegotiate loan covenants is a case in point.

Ship values are falling, although by how much is anyone’s guess in a market where there are so few transactions. Whatever the asset worth, it is fair to assume that many loan-to-value conditions are being breached as ship prices sink.
GSL has reached agreement with banks to increase the ratio of borrowing to ship values to a maximum of 100% from the previous 75% ceiling, as a precautionary step.

Anecdotal evidence suggests that, even now, many owners have still not accepted the reality, say those in the know, and continue to hope some miracle will drag them out of this horror.

That will not happen.

This downturn will be long and nasty, and owners have to seize the initiative, whether that means facing down the banks, the yards, or their customers, if they want to survive,
It will get very messy, but there is no longer any alternative."

Ilyan


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pirates/help save the whales

13.02.2009 08:53

Who owns the ship?
Why cant any locals go skipping and give the crew the findings.
Cant we persuade the captain to lift anchor and help save the whales?
lots of possibilities for the ship with no rightfull owner.

Davey


Thats great but

13.02.2009 15:32

thanks.

Daniel


Reason to Laugh

14.02.2009 00:33

I knew three Loyds Underwriters, one of them was an Underwiter who assessed the risk and was just about the best of them in the 1950s. I do not think the other two were part of his Syndicate, they later lost their fur coats paying out claims.

In the 1950s. that good one saw that what had to be done to keep Lloyds alive was done. But I cannot see what anyone in Lloyd's could do now to avert catastrophe for Lloyd's.

Any insured business person who sees how values are collapsing is likely to arrange some big insurance claims very soon. With the rate of decline in value of the assetts backing the Lloyd's underwiters continuing, a couple of big claims could wreck the system.

Lloyds apart, if you renew your house insurance when next due, for the rebuilding cost now, and have a fire in nine or ten months time, the inflation now underway through Political stupidity could have become hyper. No hope to get your house rebu
It would be a much better investment to spend the premium stocking up with storable food. There is only one risk in that- in a couple of years you might be the fatter one people are eyeing, assessing how long someone should hang for before being cooked. Expect an early start at that with Bankers and Politicians.

Those who have found and read "The Negative Outcome of Economics"  http://www.iww.org/en/node/2583 might join the belly laugh at those who ignored what it said eighteen years ago.ilt. Find something else to do with the premium money and carry that risk yourself.

Ilyan
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