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The Crime of the Zionists and the Transnational Elite and the Stand of the Left

Nikos | 06.01.2009 19:54 | Analysis | Palestine | Social Struggles

It is, therefore, obvious that the crimes of the Zionists will never be forgiven and forgotten by the peoples of the world in general and the Arab peoples in particular, unless the Jews in Israel and their communities abroad begin a systematic campaign to overthrow this criminal regime and its ideology and replace it with a multicultural regime for all the peoples of Palestine as the first step towards the creation of a confederal Inclusive Democracy there, i.e. a genuine democracy involving the equal distribution of power among all citizens.

The Crime of the Zionists and the Transnational Elite and the Stand of the Left*
 
TAKIS FOTOPOULOS
 
 
 
Zionist violence as part and parcel of systemic violence
 
The Israeli Zionists, with their new brutal crime in Palestine, i.e. the bloodbath they have unleashed against a defenceless people who had previously been strangled economically, have perhaps surpassed themselves in their long criminal history. This crime is not only fully supported by all Zionists around the world who, in the last sixty years or so, have managed to dominate the Jewish communities which, before the second world war, were far from supportive of the Zionist plan, with several distinguished Jewish Left intellectuals attacking its potentially criminal nature. It has also been given the direct or indirect support of the equally criminal transnational elite[1] (i.e. the US and EU elites), as well as that of its tyrannical Arab satrap regimes (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the Gulf emirates etc.). At the same time, however, the very magnitude of this new crime has led to a new awakening of peoples’ consciousness, which is already being expressed by a growing resistance movement, despite the gross brain-washing and disorientation perpetuated by the international media which are controlled by the elites.[2] Particularly so, when this new crime comes in the aftermath of the still-developing huge economic crime against humanity created by the growing economic crisis of the globalised capitalist market economy[3] ―which was also initiated by the transnational elite, the local elites and the privileged social groups associated with them, that enjoy the benefits of neoliberal globalisation.
 
This resistance is not surprising, of course, since it is inevitable that people will increasingly realise that the systemic violence against the Palestinian people is part and parcel of the overall systemic violence exercised by the very same transnational elite, with the assistance of local elites across the world, under the mantra of a pseudo «democracy» which has nothing whatsoever to do with genuine democracy ―i.e. the direct exercise of all kinds of power by the people themselves[4] and not by the political elites of professional politicians, or by the economic elites which control the internationalized capitalist market economy. It is the same systemic violence which:

--yesterday, in the form of brutal physical violence, killed and maimed hundreds of thousands in Yugoslavia[5], Afghanistan[6] and Iraq[7] in order to crush all resistance to the New World Order, as imposed by the transnational elite over the past twenty years or so;
--today, in the form of economic violence, condemns more and more millions of people to unemployment, poverty and misery, just so that the privileged social strata can further increase their accumulated wealth and continue to enjoy a lifestyle that has brought the planet to the verge of ecological destruction,[8]
--tomorrow, could materialise as a combination of both economic and physical violence in the countries of the transnational elite itself and the countries dependent on it, with the social explosion in Greece last December being the precursor of this[9].

The “crime” of the people of Gaza
 
The “crime” of the people of Gaza who are being slaughtered today, is that they voted ―faithfully implementing all «democratic» procedures imposed by the transnational elite― for a regime that was committed to the non-recognition of the Zionist regime which, over the past 60 years, has been occupying by force, or the threat of force (as progressive Jewish historians also admit),[10] not only the territories given to it by the United Nations in 1948 (without, of course, anybody having thought to ask the opinion of the indigenous Palestinians who were the overwhelming majority living on this land for hundreds of years!) but also the rest of Palestine, thanks to the campaigns of the Zionist army, namely the policeman of the West which, with the billions of dollars being poured into it by the West, is now one of the four most powerful armies in the world. The result: 1.5 million refugees have now been squeezed, under the most appalling conditions, into the coastal region of Gaza, an area about the size of the Isle of Wight.
 
Therefore, regardless of the Islamic character of the regime, the non-recognition of an expansionist and racist[11] regime and the resistance against its military occupation by all available means of popular counter-violence, is an obvious, necessary task recognized even by international law. Yet, there are some self-declared libertarian currents refusing to support those kinds of popular anti-systemic violence which are based on religious, irrational movements ―a stand which is irrelevant to the immediate priority of overthrowing systemic violence in the first place! The Gaza refugees had to be crushed, then, because they did not show any willingness to give in to the Zionists and compromise their rights, as the mainly bourgeois strata in the West Bank did in their support of the Abbas regime ―protected by Zionists, the transnational elite and its Arab satraps. This regime showed a readiness  to accept the role of leading a protectorate within the Bantustan kind of state that the Zionists would be willing to grant them, in exchange for the full recognition of a pure Zionist state in Palestine by the entire Arab world (what the “world community” ―read the transnational elite― euphemistically calls the “two-state solution”).
 
The campaign for “regime change” in Gaza
 
Thus, immediately after the victory of Hamas in Gaza, the transnational elite and its Arab satraps began a campaign for “regime change” ―exactly as was successfully carried out in Yugoslavia and Iraq. The aim was to crush the morale of the people of Gaza so that, in the forthcoming elections, they would vote for Abbas, the “chosen” one ―i.e. favoured by the Zionists, the transnational elite and its Arab satraps. The campaign began with an exhausting economic war. Thus, the alleged withdrawal of the Zionist occupying forces in 2005, in effect, meant the military blockade of Gaza by land, air and sea and the creation of perhaps the largest ghetto in history, complete with the faithful application of methods of collective reprisal employed by the Nazis. This massive crime against the Palestinian people was disguised by the “Holocaust industry”, i.e. the Zionist ideology which was denounced by a Jew[12] whose own family were victims of concentration camps ―a fact that did not prevent Zionists and crypto-Zionist crooks all over the world from accusing him of anti-Semitism, a charge also made against any other fair-minded Jew, or supporter of the radical left, who dared to denounce the perennial crime that is Zionism.
 
So, after 9/11, the unashamedly mendacious, state-terrorist Zionist elites (with the decisive help of the international media ―controlled by the transnational elite― which basically present only the Zionist version of the “truth”) promptly classified the non-yielding Hamas regime among the “terrorist” rogue regimes on the grounds that it supposedly threatened the very existence of Jews in Palestine! This ludicrous claim was made in the full knowledge that all the Arab armies and the Iranian regime put together (let alone the Hamas regime in isolation!) could never succeed in eliminating Zionist Israel, in the face of its hugely powerful army with its nuclear capability, backed by the most powerful army in human history: the criminal US army! At the same time, the Zionists have been promoting the myth of their withdrawal from Gaza, i.e. a “withdrawal” which, complemented by their economic war, has led to the present economic catastrophe in Gaza: according to the latest report of the International Red Cross,[13] 70% of the people in Gaza suffer from chronic malnutrition and about 40% of the population have been condemned to absolute poverty, with incomes of 90 euros a month being the norm for families needing to feed 7-9 people.
 
The Zionist campaign for "regime change" ―a plan which has inadvertently been admitted to by certain government officials, (e.g. a couple of days into the assault on Gaza, Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gabriela Shalev, said it would continue for "as long as it takes to dismantle Hamas completely”[14]) ―is underway with the current crime and, once again, a systematic lie is being used to disguise it. While in Iraq the supposed threat was that of “weapons of mass destruction”, which were never found, in Gaza it is the “rockets” fired by Hamas, which were described as follows by a BBC correspondent:

Much of the Palestinian militants’ arsenal is made up of crudely-made, undirected rockets ― little more than explosives-packed pipes with metal fins welded onto the end.[15]

No wonder that this sort of “war”, as it is presented by Zionists and the world media controlled by the transnational elite, has so far claimed the lives of 4 Israelis as opposed to more than 400 Palestinians killed by the air raids. Clearly, the Zionists have well surpassed their Nazi teachers in terms of collective reprisals enforced against those resisting their occupation: while the Nazi ratio was 50 civilians killed for every German, the Zionist ratio is 100 Gaza inhabitants killed for every Israeli! Overall, in the past eight years Palestinians have fired 8,500 rockets from Gaza into Israel, killing 20 civilians, in contrast to the 5,000 Palestinians killed by the Zionist F16s and Apaches (i.e. a ratio of 357 Palestinians for every Israeli killed),[16] ―1,700 of them killed in Israeli military attacks since Jewish settlers were pulled out of Gaza three years ago[17].
 
The Zionist media campaign of pure distortion and lies
 
Contrary to the systematic Zionist lies about Hamas breaking the ceasefire etc, there is now, in fact, overwhelming evidence to suggest that the present criminal campaign was one of pure, premeditated murder, having nothing to do with what Hamas did or did not do militarily during the ceasefire period. Here is how a serious analyst of Palestinian affairs described this process in a revealing article in the Observer,[18] on the basis of information given to him by Dan Gillerman, Israel's ambassador to the UN until a few months ago:

Months ago, as Israel prepared to unleash its latest wave of desolation (…) (it) also understood that a parallel operation would be required to persuade the rest of the world of the justice of its cause (…) After the debacle of its 2006 invasion of Lebanon ― not only a military disaster for Israel, but also a political and diplomatic one ― the government in Tel Aviv spent months laying the groundwork at home and abroad for the assault on Gaza with quiet but energetic lobbying of foreign administrations and diplomats, particularly in Europe and parts of the Arab world. A new information directorate was established to influence the media, with some success. And when the attack began just over a week ago, a tide of diplomats, lobby groups, bloggers and other supporters of Israel were unleashed to hammer home a handful of carefully crafted core messages intended to ensure that Israel was seen as the victim, even as its bombardment killed more than 430 Palestinians over the past week, at least a third of them civilians or policemen (...) In briefings in Jerusalem and London, Brussels and New York, the same core messages were repeated: that Israel had no choice but to attack in response to the barrage of Hamas rockets; that the coming attack would be on “the infrastructure of terror” in Gaza and the targets principally Hamas fighters; that civilians would die, but it was because Hamas hides its fighters and weapons factories among ordinary people (…)  Hand in hand went a strategy to remove the issue of occupation from discussion. Gaza was freed in 2005 when the Jewish settlers and army were pulled out, the Israelis said. It could have flourished as the basis of a Palestinian state, but its inhabitants chose conflict.

In keeping with this strategy of utter distortion of the facts, Israel has been portraying Hamas as part of an axis of Islamist fundamentalist evil together with Iran and Hezbollah. In reality, the actions of Hamas have been an expression of popular resistance against the continued occupation of the West Bank, the blockade of Gaza and the Israeli military's continued killing of large numbers of Palestinians since the pullout. No wonder the Zionist leadership has had the nerve to deceive world opinion in such a blatant way, with crooked professional politicians like Tzipi Livni declaring in Paris, immediately after the start of the land invasion, that there was no threat of a humanitarian disaster in Gaza, despite reports to the contrary by UN and Red Cross organisations on the ground, and that "Israel is part of the free world and fights extremism and terrorism-- Hamas is not," while Simon Peres, the supposedly “progressive” ex-Labor party leader, had no qualms about declaring on 4/1/2009, in a contemptuous dismissal of mounting world disgust at the Zionist crime, that “"Hamas needs a real and serious lesson. They are now getting it”!
 
This purely Goebbelian propaganda was put forward not only by all the media controlled by the transnational elite, including formerly respectable organisations like the BBC (providing coverage that was completely biased in favour of the Zionists, and backed by a barrage of “Holocaust industry” stories in the midst of the Palestinian slaughter!), but also by the Israeli military, who posted video footage on YouTube, while Israeli diplomats in New York arranged a two-hour “citizens’ press conference” on Twitter for thousands of people. As if all this were not enough, Israel, perhaps for the first time in modern warfare, completely barred foreign journalists from witnessing the results of its strategy, even though its own courts judged this act to be illegal! Obviously, it did not want the world to see its “defensive” slaughtering of a defenceless people ―only the “agony” suffered by Israelis within Israel due to the pathetic Hamas “explosives-packed pipes”. Yet, it has the nerve to claim that it is a “democratic” oasis in the Middle East!
 
Needless to say that the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed could only be witnessed and heard about through Al Jazeera, the only international TV channel which could send pictures from inside Gaza (as it is manned by Palestinians who did not need approval from the Zionist regime): i.e. of events such as the deliberate bombing of a local fruit market which led to the deaths of many civilians, or the bombing of ambulances and private houses ―apart from the fact that, as doctors in Gaza’s hospital testified, wounded people were dying because of the lack of medicine resulting from the economic embargo.
 
No wonder that the Zionists have no qualms about interpreting international law in the way that could best “justify” their claims. The International Committee of the Red Cross ―guardian of the Geneva Conventions on which international humanitarian law is based― defines a combatant as a person "directly engaged in hostilities". But Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) spokesman Benjamin Rutland told the BBC[19]: “Our definition is that anyone who is involved with terrorism within Hamas is a valid target. This ranges from the strictly military institutions and includes the political institutions that provide the logistical funding and human resources for the terrorist arm.”
 
However, as Philippe Sands, Professor of International Law at University College London, has stated, he is not aware of any Western democracy having taken so broad a definition, and he damns the legalistic tricks of Zionist criminals as follows:

Once you extend the definition of combatant in the way that IDF is apparently doing, you begin to associate individuals who are only indirectly or peripherally involved (…) it becomes an open-ended definition, which undermines the very object and purpose of the rules that are intended to be applied.

In spite of this, Non Government Organisations like Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International, which were particularly vocal in demanding the prosecution of enemies of the transnational elite like Milosevic or Saddam Hussein for war crimes or crimes against humanity, never raised a single such demand against proven Zionist war criminals like Sharon in the past, or Tzipi Livni, Simon Peres, Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert today!
 
The stand of the Left: keeping an equal distance from perpetrators and victims
 
However, these facts did not prevent the European centre-Left and the Left from condemning violence “from wherever it may come”, i.e keeping, as usual, an equal distance from perpetrators and victims and equating the systemic violence of the Zionists with the resistance movements’ counter-violence against the occupiers. No wonder that the European Left party once again called”[20] ―after the latest crime had begun to take place― for a 2-state solution under the slogan “Another Middle East is possible” in accordance with their similarly utopian and ultimately meaningless slogan, “Another World is possible”. Nor is it surprising that this “solution” is also supported by the transnational elite and its Arab satraps, as well as by the Zionists themselves, who would like their “pure” Zionist regime to be perpetuated side-by-side with a dependent protectorate of the Bantustan kind!
 
On the other hand, the Zionist “Left” (Crossman, Amos Oz, et al.) adopt a similar stand, also denying the right of the Palestinian people to resist, allegedly because their “terrorism” kills “innocent” people, (while the overwhelming majority of these people consents to the Zionists’ crimes ―particularly the latest one, as all polls indicated), whereas the multiple Palestinian victims of Zionist state terrorism are, of course, just referred to as  “collateral damage”, in adoption of the criminal language of the US military following its murder of civilians on a massive scale in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.
 
The only real solution: a multicultural state in Palestine
 
Why this great bloodbath? The simple answer was given by John McCarthy, a British analyst, on the first day of the land invasion[21]:

There are few signs that the Israeli establishment, fully committed to the Zionist goals of creating Eretz Israel (a Greater Israel that stretches from the Mediterranean Sea to the River Jordan), plans to relinquish very much land at all: 250,000 Israelis already live on the West Bank. On the contrary, Israel’s road and settlement building programmes continue apace. Israel’s policy has always been to build “facts on the ground” while delaying accepting any final borders. Her founding father and first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, summed this up with the phrase “where we plough our last furrow is where we put our border”. Ben-Gurion’s political heirs are still ploughing. While conceding that a Palestinian state of some sort is necessary to ensure Israel is kept as purely Jewish as possible, they will put off delineating that state until Israel ends up with as much land and as few Palestinians as possible on that land. As Israel continues to create ever more “facts on the ground”, the prospects of the Palestinians being offered a reasonable share of what was meant to be their homeland become ever more remote. The Israelis presumably will count on Palestinians becoming so desperate for their own state, amid international weariness and ineffectiveness, that they will achieve their territorial and demographic goals.

This confirms, once again, the conclusion which I reached in the past[22], that the historical crime of creating a “pure Jewish” state in Palestine would have been prevented, and hundreds of thousands of lives (the overwhelming majority of them Palestinian) would have been saved, if the condemnation of such a move by prominent Left-wing Jews like Hannah Arendt and Isaac Deutscher and the Left Zionists, who demanded a bi-nationalist state, had been heard[23]. In other words, if the Palestinian land had not been divided (unequally from the very beginning in favour of the Zionists!) with the aim of creating two states but, instead, had been used as the foundation for a single multicultural secular state, which would have housed both the Palestinians and those Jewish refugees, particularly from Europe, who had wished to move there. In fact, this is the type of solution which is now gaining increasing support among progressive anti-Zionist Jews and Palestinians, who recognise that the “two-state” solution effectively leads to a Zionist monster and a Palestinian Bantustan.
 
This is particularly obvious now that it is clear that the Zionist aim has always been to Judaise Palestine by forcing the Palestinians to abandon their land under intolerable pressure ―a clearly racist objective, as was stressed by Avraham Burg who, despite having been chairman of the World Zionist Organization in the past, rejects as racist the Old Testament notion that the Jews are God's chosen people. On similar grounds, Shlomo Sand, a professor at Tel Aviv University, argues that Israel should not be a Jewish state, but a democratic secular one which belongs to all its citizens ―a position close to the Inclusive Democracy stand on the Palestine issue.[24]
 
It is, therefore, becoming increasingly clear today that the way out of the vicious circle of bloodshed would have to be one that transcends the catastrophic two-state solution. The demand for a multicultural state, which was initially proposed by the Jewish Left and backed by the radical Left in Europe more than fifty years ago, is again on the agenda. Several currents are strengthening among both progressive Palestinians[25] and post-Zionist Jews[26] to find a solution which, rejecting both Zionism and religious irrationalism (Jewish and Palestinian alike), would aim to create a multicultural and inclusive state for all the peoples living in Palestine today. In fact, such a solution would also be perfectly consistent with historical evidence, which clearly shows that Arabs and Jews did indeed live together harmoniously in the Mediterranean basin whilst the Arab nation was flourishing[27], and that irrational religious differences did not prevent millions of Jews, Christians and others from living harmoniously within the borders of the Ottoman empire. Similarly, millions of Jews today have no problem living (and thriving) together with other peoples in Europe and the USA either.
 
Clearly, a one-state solution in the form of an inclusive multicultural state would be an important step towards the creation of a Confederal Inclusive Democracy in Palestine. This is because such a solution could not only lead to a form of government which would bear no relation at all to the present racist Zionist “democracy” and the authoritarian Palestinian Authority ―thereby solving the problem of refugees on both sides― but it could also represent a crucial move towards a future confederation of peoples in Palestine based on an Inclusive Democracy. However, the Zionists, in perfect harmony with the transnational elite, are not even prepared to discuss the solution of a single multicultural state for the peoples of Palestine and have, instead, fought any solution that would undermine their “clean” (and expansive) Zionist state with all the means at their disposal. Furthermore, their present crime has not only made any 2-state solution which would be based on anything other than a Bantustan kind of regime impossible, but it has also made even the one-state solution almost impossible, given the immense hatred that the criminal treatment of the Palestinian people has generated among the Arab peoples. It is, therefore, obvious that the crimes of the Zionists will never be forgiven and forgotten by the peoples of the world in general and the Arab peoples in particular, unless the Jews in Israel and their communities abroad begin a systematic campaign to overthrow this criminal regime and its ideology and replace it with a multicultural regime for all the peoples of Palestine as the first step towards the creation of a confederal Inclusive Democracy there, i.e. a genuine democracy involving the equal distribution of power among all citizens.
 


* A much shorter version of this article was published in the fortnightly column of Takis Fotopoulos in the mass circulation Athens daily, Eleftherotypia, (3/1/2009).
 
 
[1] See for the definition of the transnational elite, Takis Fotopoulos, “Globalisation, the reformist Left and the Anti-Globalisation «Movement»”, Democracy & Nature, Vol. 7, No.  2 (July 2001). 
[2] Takis Fotopoulos, “Mass media, Culture and Democracy”, Democracy & Nature, Vol. 5, No. 1 (March 1999).
[3] See Takis Fotopoulos, “The myths about the economic crisis, the reformist Left and economic democracy”, The International Journal of INCLUSIVE DEMOCRACY, Vol. 4, No. 4 (October 2008),
[4] See Takis Fotopoulos, Towards An Inclusive Democracy (London, N.Y.: Cassell/Continuum, 1997/1998), Part II
[5]  Takis Fotopoulos, “The First War of the Internationalised Market Economy”, Democracy & Nature, Vol. 5, No. 2 (July 1999)
[6] Takis Fotopoulos, “The global «war» of the transnational elite”, Democracy & Nature, Vol. 8, No. 2 (July 2002).
[7] Takis Fotopoulos, “Iraq: the new criminal «war» of the transnational elite”, Democracy & Nature, Vol. 9, No. 2 (July 2003)
[8] Takis Fotopoulos, “Is degrowth compatible with a market economy?”, The International Journal of INCLUSIVE DEMOCRACY, Vol. 3, No. 1 (January 2007).
[9] See Takis Fotopoulos, “A systemic Crisis in Greece” (in this issue).
[10] Benny Morris, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Question (Cambridge University, December 11, 2003); Ilan Pappé, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (Oneworld Publications, 2006); see, also, Eric Rouleau, “The «ethnic cleansing» of Palestine”, Le Monde diplomatique (English edition) (May 2008).
[11] On the racist nature of the Zionist regime see Takis Fotopoulos, “Palestine: the hour of truth”, The International Journal of Inclusive Democracy, Vol. 2, No.2 (January 2006).
[12] Norman Finkelstein, The Holocaust Industry (Verso, 2000).
[13] Donald Macintyre, “Chronic malnutrition in Gaza blamed on Israel”, The Independent (15/11/2008).
[14] Chris McGreal, “Why Israel went to war in Gaza”, The Observer (4/1/2009).
[15] Heather Sharp, “Rocket attacks plague Israeli towns”, BBC News (28/12/2008).
[16] Seumas Milne, “Israel's onslaught on Gaza is a crime that cannot succeed”, The Guardian (30/12/2008).
[17] Chris McGreal, “Why Israel went to war in Gaza”.
[18] Chris McGreal, ibid.
[19] Heather Sharp, “Who is a civilian?”, BBC News (Jerusalem 05/01/2009).
[20] European Left, “Another Middle East is possible” (29 December 2008).
[21] John McCarthy, “If it was your home, what hope «restraint»?”, The Independent (4/1/2009).
[22] Takis Fotopoulos, “Palestine: the hour of truth”.
[23] Stanley Aronowitz, “Setting the Record Straight: Zionism from the Standpoint of its Jewish Critics”, Logos, Issue 3.3 (Summer 2004).
[24] Takis Fotopoulos, “Palestine: the hour of truth”.
[25] See e.g. Ahmad Samih Khalidi, “A one-state solution”, The Guardian (29/09/2003) & Conal Urquhart, “Gaza shifts to a new solution”, The Observer  (14/09/2003).
[26] See e.g. Esther Addley, “Lines in the sand”, The Guardian (25/07/2002).
[27] John Rose, The Myths of Zionism (Pluto Press, 2005)
 

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The Prophetic word of Micah

06.01.2009 20:39

From the Old Testament: the prophet Micah, who might have been writing for today when he gave this warning:
"Here this, you heads of the house of Jacob and rulers of the House of Israel, who abhor justice and pervert all equity, who build Zion with blood and Jerusalem with wrong. Therefore because of you, Zion shall be ploughed as a field; Jerusalem shall become a heap of ruins".

lion against Zion


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You will lose

06.01.2009 20:43

Allah akbar you racist fascist loon!

Not on my watch! You will lose, your fundie chums will lose everything, and if you lost start attacking Jews around here I will kick your arse.

Remember Cable Street -Fascists and Racists OUT!


Shit analysis

06.01.2009 23:18

Seeing things in terms of manipulation by elites, and as if the only force in politics centres around Israel. Millenarian conspirabollocks bordering (if not crossing over) into anti-semitism. There might even be a useful summary of events in there if not for that encrustation of crap.

"Clearly, the Zionists have well surpassed their Nazi teachers in terms of collective reprisals enforced against those resisting their occupation: while the Nazi ratio was 50 civilians killed for every German, the Zionist ratio is 100 Gaza inhabitants killed for every Israeli!"
More "Israel is worse than teh nazis!" nonsense. Fuck off. What possible use does that comparison have? Just a war you picked at random>

This is not a secret plot, it's the logic of capital and the state system. The world does not revolve around Israel and the jews, only the bible and the torah are so obsessed. It's the kind of logic that leads to neo-nazi anti war stickers reading "Stop Israel's Wars"

Who spends time translating this shit, and where were you last month when there was more happening in Greece than translators could keep up with?

CH


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"Shit-analysis from a shit analyst"

07.01.2009 00:41

What is your stand with respect to this huge crime against the people of Gaza rather than teaching us pseudo-Marxism?
I would also like to know where you found the “plot theory” etc.? Especially when from the very first paragraph the article discusses the violence in Gaza as part of the world systemic violence? Looks like you have been wallowing in your own shit too long and your comments reflect it! Where were you when the crisis happened in Greece? You are no Marxist That’s for sure!

viji


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CH and your "shit comment"

07.01.2009 01:02

You obviously do not know what you are talking about or you are trying to cover up your zionazi tendencies.

Where in the world did you find plot, secret, conspiracy theory in the article, when it tells you from the top that the violence in Gaza is part of world systemic violence?

Your Marxism is something to behold too! As a Marxist, as you intimate, how do you stand with respect to the Israeli invasion of and crimes against the people of Gaza?

We were in Greece. Where were you?

Sid


"Bolloks comment"

07.01.2009 01:13

The price of oil has gone up since the Zionist attacks escalated and children are being massacred in cold blood. "Israeli Prime Miniser Ehud Olmert said on Tuesday that the military campaign in Gaza would continue until Israel had completely wiped out Hamas's ability to fire rockets into Israel." This is nothing more than ethnic cleansing! This just made me sick to my stomach. Haven't the Zionists learned anything from the oppression they suffered in the extermination camps? They are the ones who are acting antisemitic, killing their poor cousins in cold blood. What is your position on the genocide that is taking place in Palestine?
The connection that Fotopoulos makes makes lot of sense. I agree with Fotopoulos that “It is, therefore, obvious that the crimes of the Zionists will never be forgiven and forgotten by the peoples of the world in general and the Arab peoples in particular, unless the Jews in Israel and their communities abroad begin a systematic campaign to overthrow this criminal regime and its ideology and replace it with a multicultural regime for all the peoples of Palestine as the first step towards the creation of a confederal Inclusive Democracy there, i.e. a genuine democracy involving the equal distribution of power among all citizens.” Read some Fotopoulos and may be you might hope to call yourself a Marxist instead of a pretend one.
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Jessie


Shit Zionazi (posing as Marxist)

07.01.2009 02:10

You're great at empty accusations, but not so hot on evidence!

"More "Israel is worse than teh nazis!" nonsense. Fuck off. What possible use does that comparison have? Just a war you picked at random>"

Is that what you call groundbreaking evidence to shatter an argument? The statement to which you responded contains independently verified PROOF. Have you Zionists ever heard that word before?

Obviously you don't know what a "secret plot" is either. The article doesn't ever mention any small cliques of corrupt individuals hellbent on destroying the world. It speaks of a transnational elite being responsible for the physical and economic violence suffered by people across the globe. What real Marxists (unlike yourself) use to call the transnational capitalist class. As for the "bordering (if not crossing over) into anti-semitism" bit, aren't you bored of churning out that disgusting, morally bankrupt shit yet? This article has just annihilated every single "argument" that your precious Zionist machine tries to produce. Can't you be honest, just for once, and take a stand against the heinous crimes against humanity being committed in Gaza as we speak?

Oh, and by the way, moron, regarding your comment about recent events in Greece: see footnote 9 to this article, which refers to another article that has already been written all about this - and which will appear IN ENGLISH in the forthcoming issue of the Inclusive Democracy Journal (obviously the present article was a pre-publication).

Bill


Comment Brimming with Shit

07.01.2009 03:10

You're great at empty accusations, but not so hot on evidence!

"More "Israel is worse than teh nazis!" nonsense. Fuck off. What possible use does that comparison have? Just a war you picked at random>"

Is that what you call groundbreaking evidence to shatter an argument? The statement to which you responded contains independently verified PROOF. Have you Zionists ever heard that word before?

Obviously you don't know what a "secret plot" is either. The article doesn't ever mention any small cliques of corrupt individuals hellbent on destroying the world. It speaks of a transnational elite being responsible for the physical and economic violence suffered by people across the globe. What real Marxists (unlike yourself) use to call the transnational capitalist class. As for the "bordering (if not crossing over) into anti-semitism" bit, aren't you bored of churning out that disgusting, morally bankrupt shit yet? This article has just annihilated every single "argument" that your precious Zionist machine tries to produce. Can't you be honest, just for once, and take a stand against the heinous crimes against humanity being committed in Gaza as we speak?

Oh, and by the way, regarding your irrelevant comment about recent events in Greece: see footnote 9 to this article, which refers to another article that has already been written all about this - and which will appear IN ENGLISH in the forthcoming issue of the Inclusive Democracy Journal (obviously the present article was a pre-publication).

Bill


A sheer conformist, if not an instrument

07.01.2009 07:07

I am wondering how much "misguided" (if not zionist) at best can some people be like CH, who can' t see the tremendous evidence about the connection of zionism with the aggressive systemic violence that we all face today, whether we are Palestinians, people facing economic abjection and insecurity, minorities, or even protesters. As a Greek who took part at the demonstrations in December after the brutal systemic and police murder of the 15 year old boy in Athens, I can clearly see the connection of the growing systemic violence imposed by the elites, which, as the article states, are now transnational and function in accordance with their utmost interest, which is exactly the expansion of the system.
That is why it was the same people who protested for the murder of Alexandros and for the attempt to kill a migrant worker, Kouneva in order to terrorize the workers, that now protest for the criminal zionist attack in Gaza. But some people don' t have the consciousness or maybe the guts to do these vital connections and, on the contrary, attack fighters for freedom and autonomy and well-documented articles like this, becoming apologists of the the most fascist oppression after the second world war and of the entire system that supports it.

Sotos


CH's Shit analysis

07.01.2009 14:11

What is your stand with respect to this huge crime against the people of Gaza rather than teaching us pseudo-Marxism? Get a grip on reality, here is something that can help  http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/the-other-side-of-the-story

I would also like to know where you found the "plot theory" etc.? Especially when from the very first paragraph the article discusses the violence in Gaza as part of the world systemic violence? Looks like you have been wallowing in your own shit too long and your comments reflect it! Grow up and get educated. Learn the true meaning of democracy, it is direct citizen participation in the decision making and implementing process which ensures the equal distribution of political, economic and social power among all the people

You are no Marxist, that's for sure! Its the elites stupid, they are running the show, their greedy death grip on the worlds' economies, politics and resources that are causing the crisis, they are the problem. The solution is very clear, as Fotopoulos recommends, "...a multicultural regime for all the peoples of Palestine as the first step towards the creation of a confederal Inclusive Democracy there, i.e. a genuine democracy involving the equal distribution of power among all citizens."

By the way where were you when the crisis happened in Greece?

Anarkali


balaikas r us

07.01.2009 14:27

Clearly the ruling class in different countries sometimes have competing priorities and do not act as a homogeneous "transnational elite".

Thinking that way leads to a programme of anti-capitalist action which focuses on identifying and fighting this "elite" group rather than struggling for power for the working class. It's the "great man" theory of history, disempowering individuals and deprioritising economic struggles and mass action.

Following the "transnational elite" position to its logical conclusion leads to the need to identify individual members of this elite, as if they were defined by their identity, not their actions in a complex interlocked system.

And if the "transnational elite" work through Zionism, then anti-capitalists should attack Zionism. This ignores that the ideology is only a specific form / outgrowth of nationalism and capitalism.

And if Zionism can't be defeated ideologically, maybe that leads to the conclusion we should attack ZionISTS. How do we identify zionists? Well maybe they look like Jews....


That's where this type of half-articulated critique of capitalism leads, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I'm wrong but supporters of that analysis need to come up with a better response than insults.

But feel free to shout just "Zionazi" at me. I got the privilege of not having to worry about either being bombed by the Israeli state or pogromed by folk looking for the "transnational elite"....

CH


Class structure ignorance

07.01.2009 15:22

CH, it' s exactly because now the local elites, in the neoliberal globalization that emerged 30 years ago have of course a very much analyzed common utmost interest (despite their competitiveness regarding the lion "share"), which is the expansion of the system, that your arguments are feeble. It is exactly because the transnational elite is the dominant and decentralized CLASS of the internationalized system of the capitalist market economy and the representative "democracy" which is what we call the economic/political system today, that there is no need to find out who is behind the elites etc., something that explodes your effort to cast the existence of this elite to "conspiracy theories" and other irrational bullshit.
If people had to learn the "complex" theories which justify the system instead of using autonomous reason and thorough but simple analysis about the causes of the growing crisis, then obviously these few people would happily become the new elites that would dominate other people because "they would know better". So much for "anarchism"!
Finally, it is really pathetic to ask "who is zionist" (!) when there is an ongoing brutal military and economic attack by the Israeli elite and the transnational elite which backs it up and a continuous resistance of people who try to overthrow the attackers. This is like asking "who is a nazi" in world war two, so why resist?
This is the worst kind of conformism which justifies systemic violence allover the world.

Sotos


simple solutions

07.01.2009 17:09

Sotos I think you've misread my previous post in places, so I'm disregarding yr last 2 paragraphs.

The only thing the ruling class agree on is the need to stop workers from taking power.

"attack by the Israeli elite and the transnational elite which backs it up" - except that back up has limits. The US just told Israel to back off. This shows both that "the Israel lobby" doesn't control US foreign policy, rather the other way around; and that ruling classes do not agree on everything, so picturing them as a single elite group is at best a metaphor that encourages sloppy thinking.

Which makes my point again. Simplistic reasoning leads to simplistic solutions. I'm all for people "using autonomous reason and thorough but simple analysis" but that process has to be subject to debate and discussion otherwise you end up with incorrect but appealing ideas gaining traction, not because they're correct but because they are simple and easily transmitted to other people.

Identifying Zionist ideology as somehow key to capitalism or the ruling class is a simple, easily-transmitted idea. It's also wrong.

Don't expect me to turn off my brain just because the systemic violence is on the TV more today. Where I am I can't do much more than encourage protest actions to be clear about their purpose and not slide into Jew-bashing, or support for a wannabe government over a more powerful one. That would empower the Israeli state.

Life is complex. 2 things can be true. "Israel state actions = Bad" doesn't mean "Hamas = good". Neither does "I hate what is happening in Gaza" lead to "support Hamas".

Solidarity has to be with the working class in Palestine and Israel in their struggle against their rulers.

CH


CH simplistic

07.01.2009 20:17

get over marx’s outmoded class analysis cum historical materialism.

it was the world community, not politicians, who told the zionist butchers to back off. why?—the collective punishment and murder of civilians ( the same as the nazi strategy)-- they were able to hide their murderous onslaught for a few days but it caught up to them with the un bombing. what influence you think aipac has with amerikan politicians including obama (who have to stoop to the zionist lobby)? none? Who is the simpleton? The elite argue over strategy, but the goal is the same—like the democracts and republicans in amerika—their goals are the same, but they differ in strategy.

the zionists are hired usa butchers. CH if you turned your brain off you would have committed suicide. you reveal your simple self well with your why “support for a wannabe government over a more powerful one”? might does not make right.

life is simple, community is complex. your analogy is not valid because it leads you to inaction. and all things are not equal in this context. hamas is supported because gaza has turned into a concentration camp with the zionist siege and they have a right to arms, and if you look at the facts more closely, you will find out that it was the zionists who broke the cease fire several times. your analogy leads to incorrect thinking. let’s see: “german state actions =bad” doesn’t mean “warsaw ghetto uprising = good”. neither does “I hate what is happening in warsaw ghetto” lead to “support jewish resistance”. hmmm, how does that fare?

the zionists are good at distancing themselves from the bloodbaths they have taken ”those civilians died because there was an alledged terrorist hiding among them—the same propaganda the us uses when it kills many civilians—“we had to blow up the building and kill 90 civilians because we saw a terrorist on the roof and we felt threatened in our abrams tanks.”

it is your discourse that is simple and tired in that you try to gain traction by the easy turning of your argument into a simple incorrect zionist solution.

sid


Simplistic (pseudo-Marxist) Minds

07.01.2009 20:35

CH, do you honestly think that we can't see straight through your krypto-Zionist agenda here? Do you really think that we'll fall for your ridiculously poor attempt at seizing the moral high ground through your laughable impersonation of a Marxist?

You pretend to offer a “complicated” analysis in response to the supposedly simplistic one that the article offers. All you're doing is trying desperately to shift the discussion away from the legitimate anger felt by peoples everywhere today against concrete systemic violence -- whether it is expressed as economic violence resulting in growing poverty, unemployment etc (as the article stresses) or as brutal physical violence in Iraq, Afghanistan or Palestine-- to the abstract conflict between between capital and labour. Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about when you write that “the ruling class in different countries sometimes have competing priorities and do not act as a homogeneous "transnational elite”. Of course they differ in tactics, but they don't differ at all in their overall strategy to impose the New World Order of the globalised capitalist market economy and representative “democracy” all over the world.

You arrive at the ludicrous conclusion: “Solidarity has to be with the working class in Palestine and Israel in their struggle against their rulers”. So, according to your “argument”, the workers of Europe during the second world war should have embraced their “comrades” in the Nazi army, or today the Iraqi workers should embrace the American “workers” in the US killing machine and the Palestinian “workers” their Zionazi killers, all in the interest of solidarity. It is obvious that in your attempted analysis no distinction is made between social struggles and national liberation struggles, and no understanding that unless peoples are first liberated from foreign occupiers they cannot even start to discuss class issues. The workers in Hamas justifiably don't see that they have anything in common with their Zionist occupiers and killers, nor do Zionist “workers” have anything in common with Palestinian workers -- assuming they don't regard them as inferior as well!

So don’t bother trying to blur the issue by using a pseudo-Marxist analysis to distract people from understanding that their real enemy is the same transnational elite everywhere, i.e. the economic elites which control the means of production, the political elites which control the political process and the media/technocratic elites, which control the ideological mechanisms. Zionists play a significant role in this system because they figure prominently in all these elites. This is why your statement that "the US just told Israel to back off" is so meaningless and irrelevant: we're talking about interlinked, common interests here -- which obviously include putting an end to Hamas's resistance to the occupation. The US and Israeli governments together will only agree to their own definition of "peace" once they think this has been achieved. This also makes a mockery out of your reference to whether the Israeli government and Hamas are "good" or bad". We're obviously not talking about forces of Good or Evil here - we're talking about a system which secures the concentration of power at the hands of various elites, and the anti-systemic violence resulting from this.

The problem, then, is not just to get the Zionists out of these elites, BUT TO ELIMINATE A SYSTEM BASED ON ELITES ALTOGETHER, whether they consist of Zionists or not, and to create a real democracy of equal distribution of power at all levels. This is what Inclusive Democracy is all about -- as you would know if you were a bona fide critic who reads before speaking, and not just a krypto-Zionist mouthpiece attempting to confuse people.

James


Thanks for the lulz James

07.01.2009 21:08

If it's all the same "transnational elite", then why should workers be divided along national lines? National liberation is a contradiction in terms, pal. Exchanging colonial bosses for local ones don't change the fact of rule by the ruling class - and given that you're claiming the existence of a "transnational elite", by *your* *own* *reasoning*, all that can be changed in a "national liberation" struggle is the address of the rulers.

Thanks for confirming my suspicion that underlying this thesis was a pile of NWO nonsense. Is a "krypto-Zionist" worse than a "crypto-Zionist"? Man I wish I had the revealed knowledge and wisdom.

CH


Thanks for the Garbage, CH!

08.01.2009 01:52

Try to work out what you're pretending to be. Are you a Marxist of the 19th-early 20th century or a modern Marxist? No modern Marxist ignores the fact that transnational corporations rule the world economy and therefore it doesn't make sense to talk about a national capitalist class any more. This is why modern Marxists refer to a transnational capitalist class, but it seems that Zionist propaganda services haven't been updated yet on modern theoretical developments, so they just keep repeating the old Marxist mantra of the last century.

This doesn't mean, however, that a corresponding transnational working class has been created, and this is why transnational corporations can so easily move their capital to “paradises” like India and China when conditions in metropolitan centres are not as good for them. Furthermore, the creation of a transnational capitalist class (we prefer to call it an elite because we don’t see power purely in terms of economic power, as Marxists do) does not mean the abolition of national liberation struggles, otherwise the Iraqi or Afghan or Palestinian resistance against their occupiers would be non-existent. But these resistance movements do exist and they are fighting the trasnational elite which implements today’s systemic violence with the help of local elites (such as the Zionist elite), and -- whether you like it or not -- their main demand is most definitely national liberation! Obviously this is only the precondition for an autonomous society, not the ultimate aim.

As regards the “nonsense” of the New World Order, an honest look at the world around you will reveal that the key components of this NWO - capitalist neoliberal globalisation and the universalisation of representative “democracy” - are clearly there, and very far from being figments of the imagination as you like to think of them. And speaking of honesty - a word that you Zionists seriously need to look up in the dictionary - not once in these exchanges have you condemned the acts of barbaric atrocity currently being inflicted on the people of Gaza as war crimes and crimes against humanity, among the worst of the entire post-war period. Nor have you acknowledged, unsurprisingly, that Hamas were, in fact, elected to power by the people of Gaza.

If you're not prepared to condemn the Zionist carnage of innocent civilians outright, as well as the disgusting hypocrisy of the Zionist and transnational (US, EU etc) elites in particular in their refusal to recognize the outcome of the free will of the people in electing Hamas because they don't happen to like the result, then you will prove beyond all doubt that you really are no more than a Zionist mouthpiece, and I'm not prepared to waste any more time responding to someone who hides behind a smoke screen of the worst kind.

And as for the spelling lesson, "pal", I'm sure you're over the moon at the thought of having discovered a tiny mistake. If you've run out of arguments you might as well just admit it, instead of clutching at straws so pathetically. In any case, strictly speaking the prefix "crypto" comes from the Greek language, which doesn't contain the letter "c", so spelling it with a "k" is hardly that funny. Evidently you're not quite the genius you think you are...

James


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