Dear Plane Stupid
riotact | 10.12.2008 23:34 | Climate Chaos
With this action you have shown your true colours. A bourgeois minority and enemy of the working class.
Your fake, mockney accents never fooled me. I always knew you were not part of our class or our struggle. I had foolishly hoped that you wouldn’t resort to attacks on my class in your efforts to establish political careers for yourselves.
Your fake, mockney accents never fooled me. I always knew you were not part of our class or our struggle. I had foolishly hoped that you wouldn’t resort to attacks on my class in your efforts to establish political careers for yourselves.
Ryan Air customers are predominantly working class people going on a well deserved holiday or to see relatives. Most of them have probably flown less than most of you did before you were 18. Yet it is them you choose to attack.
You may claim that you are trying to raise awareness of ‘climate alarm’. I don’t believe you for a minute. You are trying to raise awareness of yourselves, good little capitalist, celebrity junkies. You don’t fool me kids, you’re in this for you and your own, vain, broken and guilt ridden egos.
You might want to consider the carbon footprints of your private educations or the plush lifestyles most of you have lived. You might want to consider that for some people saving up for a Ryan Air ticket to see family or give the kids a holiday almost breaks the bank. To destroy that for them is unforgivable.
You might want to consider the real life consequences of your actions.
This is no defence of Ryan Air. Ryan Air are cunts.
But there are many ways to attack an organisation. This shambolic effort was a little like the animal rights movements choosing to attack people who’ve used drugs developed with animal testing. An ineffective, inane and just plain stupid strategy that only alienates people from your objectives and the wider struggle. And something the animal rights movement is smart enough to avoid.
At least the granny they dug up was dead.
You might want to look to the tactics of animal rights if you are serious about taking on the flight companies. I doubt you are brave enough to raise your campaign to that level.
Instead you work as unpaid agents of the state, blaming the working class for climate change as opposed to addressing the fundamental flaws of a mass production capitalist economy.
You are no suffragettes, you are no matyrs. You are snivelling little rich kids with a flimsy grasp on politics firing wildly in all directions in the vague hope you may get your faces on TV.
You have dealt the environmental movement a serious blow. You have further enshrined it in the minds of most as yet another bunch of over-privileged do gooders trying to tell the rest of us how to live.
You use fear and coercion to try and dictate our lives when it is not our class which needs to change but yours.
You don’t understand our lives. You don’t understand our politics.
In fact you might like to just, fuck off.
You may claim that you are trying to raise awareness of ‘climate alarm’. I don’t believe you for a minute. You are trying to raise awareness of yourselves, good little capitalist, celebrity junkies. You don’t fool me kids, you’re in this for you and your own, vain, broken and guilt ridden egos.
You might want to consider the carbon footprints of your private educations or the plush lifestyles most of you have lived. You might want to consider that for some people saving up for a Ryan Air ticket to see family or give the kids a holiday almost breaks the bank. To destroy that for them is unforgivable.
You might want to consider the real life consequences of your actions.
This is no defence of Ryan Air. Ryan Air are cunts.
But there are many ways to attack an organisation. This shambolic effort was a little like the animal rights movements choosing to attack people who’ve used drugs developed with animal testing. An ineffective, inane and just plain stupid strategy that only alienates people from your objectives and the wider struggle. And something the animal rights movement is smart enough to avoid.
At least the granny they dug up was dead.
You might want to look to the tactics of animal rights if you are serious about taking on the flight companies. I doubt you are brave enough to raise your campaign to that level.
Instead you work as unpaid agents of the state, blaming the working class for climate change as opposed to addressing the fundamental flaws of a mass production capitalist economy.
You are no suffragettes, you are no matyrs. You are snivelling little rich kids with a flimsy grasp on politics firing wildly in all directions in the vague hope you may get your faces on TV.
You have dealt the environmental movement a serious blow. You have further enshrined it in the minds of most as yet another bunch of over-privileged do gooders trying to tell the rest of us how to live.
You use fear and coercion to try and dictate our lives when it is not our class which needs to change but yours.
You don’t understand our lives. You don’t understand our politics.
In fact you might like to just, fuck off.
riotact
Homepage:
http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com
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Ah, a Troll
11.12.2008 00:42
A faintly incoherent post, using a rather quaint class based analysis which was last popular between the 1920s and 1950s. Only one point is worth responding to.
"Ryan Air customers are predominantly working class people going on a well deserved holiday or to see relatives." Wrong. Most customers are well off people, popping to Bratislava for a cheap hen night, taking a short break at the holiday house in France and so on. The poor seldom use aeroplanes. The false claim that the poor are the majority using these services is made by the operators and by the well off, both trying to justify the services to themselves and others.
As it says in
http://www.aef.org.uk/downloads//AviationandtheEconomytwo.pdf though I'm sure something as minor as the truth will not influence you
In a typical year:
* Less than 50% of the population flies at all
* The poorest 10% hardly ever fly
* Of those people that do fly, only 11% come from social classes D and E
* Even on budget airlines, 75% of the trips are made by social classes A, B and C
Typically, the wealthier a person is, the more s/he flies:
* People most likely to have flown are those earning over £30,000.
* Richer people are more likely to fly off on weekends - the flights that will account for virtually all the projected growth in air travel over the next 20/30 years;
The poorest people often suffer the worse environmental consequences of aviation:
* Some of the very poorest in the UK living under the flight paths and around airports. They are also the least likely to be, able to move away. Curbing air travel would improve the quality of their daily lives.
* Curbing air travel would have environmental gains for poor people in developing countries as it is those countries that are the big losers from global warming, to which emissions from aircraft is a growing contributor. Many of the same people are trapped under flight paths.
"Ryan Air customers are predominantly working class people going on a well deserved holiday or to see relatives." Wrong. Most customers are well off people, popping to Bratislava for a cheap hen night, taking a short break at the holiday house in France and so on. The poor seldom use aeroplanes. The false claim that the poor are the majority using these services is made by the operators and by the well off, both trying to justify the services to themselves and others.
As it says in
http://www.aef.org.uk/downloads//AviationandtheEconomytwo.pdf though I'm sure something as minor as the truth will not influence you In a typical year:
* Less than 50% of the population flies at all
* The poorest 10% hardly ever fly
* Of those people that do fly, only 11% come from social classes D and E
* Even on budget airlines, 75% of the trips are made by social classes A, B and C
Typically, the wealthier a person is, the more s/he flies:
* People most likely to have flown are those earning over £30,000.
* Richer people are more likely to fly off on weekends - the flights that will account for virtually all the projected growth in air travel over the next 20/30 years;
The poorest people often suffer the worse environmental consequences of aviation:
* Some of the very poorest in the UK living under the flight paths and around airports. They are also the least likely to be, able to move away. Curbing air travel would improve the quality of their daily lives.
* Curbing air travel would have environmental gains for poor people in developing countries as it is those countries that are the big losers from global warming, to which emissions from aircraft is a growing contributor. Many of the same people are trapped under flight paths.
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right on
10.12.2008 23:53
and fucking learn something from whats happening in greece and all over europe with the solidarity actions
anon1
Good points
11.12.2008 00:02
Sadly I don't think these people will 'fuck off' though! They'll just keep appearing on the news in 'actions' and stunts. That people think these people are part of the anti-capitalist movement make me shudder. I laughed at the sentences these people got when they got nicked going up on the roof of Parliament. Imagine if the protesters up there were Muslim, Black and/or working class. No slap on the wrist there! Straight to the pokey!
It's sure easy to use the 'working class' tag to smear anyone you disagree with but in this case, you're on the button. Plane Stupid have zero interest in looking in a class analysis of climate change or why rich and poor exist side by side. Don't bother saving the planet for me, if I still have to work 42 hours a week, minimum wage!
Hh
dear johnny
11.12.2008 00:14
No, Ryanair customers are people creating climate chaos with their short-haul flights, no matter what class they are from. That is irrelevant. They should get the Eurostar or ferry.
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"You might want to consider the carbon footprints of your private educations or the plush lifestyles most of you have lived."
Isn't that exactly what they are doing by doing these protests? Yes. It is the class of people they have rubbed shoulders with who run the show. They are putting two fingers up at it and good for them.
Is it their fault that they were flown around by their parents in an era when we didn't know the problems it was causing? No. They seem to be trying to make up for it now, if in a slightly bonkers way.
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"This shambolic effort"
Hmm it seems pretty well-organised to me. Breaking into an airport and causing delays to a large amount of aeroplanes by occupying the areas they need to taxi in. Seems highly planned and well executed.
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"At least the granny they dug up was dead."
Did you just chuck this in to shock people? You are a self-righteous pratt, aren't you.
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"Instead you work as unpaid agents of the state, blaming the working class for climate change"
Are the people that run the airport or the airline working class? Isn't that who they are blaming?
Isn't highlighting the issue in any way possible more important than trying to drag class into it?
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"You are snivelling little rich kids with a flimsy grasp on politics firing wildly in all directions"..
They aren't really snivelling are they? They seem quite brave really. More brave than you, sat at home tapping away at your keyboard and trying to make people who are actually having a go at something, whatever their background is, look bad. That is just plain sad really. You are a troll!
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"You have dealt the environmental movement a serious blow."
Hardly. The reverse in fact! What is this, a comedy sketch?
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"you use fear and coercion to try and dictate our lives"
Fear and coercion? Making a few planes delayed? Seriously mate, what on earth are you on about?
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"You don’t understand our lives. You don’t understand our politics. "
And who is the 'us' in this sentence? The working class? If so what does that have to do with it? As I said the people who run the show are the rich guys.
If you think they were having a go at the 'working class' that is just plain silly! They broke into an AIRPORT!
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"In fact you might like to just, fuck off. "
Does using swear words make you feel important? Because you're not.
You've made yourself look like a sad, angry, powerless fool.
amused
Just a couple of points
11.12.2008 00:26
How may working class families do you know who save up for a year to go on their one foreign holiday in the first week in December.
Ryan air (and other budget airlines) are not predominantly used by working class people as you state. They are mainly used by the middle classes 'binge flying'. I thought the guardian article I saw linked to summed this up nicely by quoting 2 customers, one was going to Berlin shopping for the day and the other to their second home (if my memory serves me correctly).
Dave
you moron
11.12.2008 00:36
joe