Terrorizer Magazine featuring explicit Nazi band and individuals
Antifa Reporter | 03.12.2008 12:19
UK based international Music Magazine Terrorizer is featuring two Nazi related bands on its issue #178, street date 5th December.
The singer of the Black Metal band Gorgoroth appears on the cover, which is known for flirting with Nazi idelogy and most known for his convinctions due to enslavement and torture. In addition the band Taake, known for its Swastika affair in Germany, is also featured on the Mag.
The singer of the Black Metal band Gorgoroth appears on the cover, which is known for flirting with Nazi idelogy and most known for his convinctions due to enslavement and torture. In addition the band Taake, known for its Swastika affair in Germany, is also featured on the Mag.
Taake singer Hoest at the gig in Germany
Seeing the cover of the forthcoming issue of one of the most widely and globally distributed extreme metal magazine such as Terrorizer you should notice only two individuals, one showing a black/white facepaint.
The facepainted one is Gaahl, the singer of a black metal band called Gorgoroth, he is much well known for his criminal story which involved conviction for extreme violence and enslavement, this story is pretty much well known in the extreme music field, a USA based indendent company also realized a short documentary about that, that can be easily found at this link:
http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=3009727001
The band Gorgoroth mixes satanic, nihilistic and controversial Nazi stamements, one of the most famous records of the Norwegian ensemble called "Destroyers or how to philosophize with the hammer" on the inner booklets shows the clear alignment of the individuals involved: "Kameraden vi marsjeren" (Comrades we march)
But what seems most unacceptable is that the Magazine features Taake, a Norwegian Black Metal band, the singer Hoest has been incarcerated more than once for crimes never disclosed to the media and showed himself with a big Swastika on his chest in Germany at a gig where Taake was the headliner.
You can watch the photo taken at the gig by yourself.
The facepainted one is Gaahl, the singer of a black metal band called Gorgoroth, he is much well known for his criminal story which involved conviction for extreme violence and enslavement, this story is pretty much well known in the extreme music field, a USA based indendent company also realized a short documentary about that, that can be easily found at this link:
http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=3009727001 The band Gorgoroth mixes satanic, nihilistic and controversial Nazi stamements, one of the most famous records of the Norwegian ensemble called "Destroyers or how to philosophize with the hammer" on the inner booklets shows the clear alignment of the individuals involved: "Kameraden vi marsjeren" (Comrades we march)
But what seems most unacceptable is that the Magazine features Taake, a Norwegian Black Metal band, the singer Hoest has been incarcerated more than once for crimes never disclosed to the media and showed himself with a big Swastika on his chest in Germany at a gig where Taake was the headliner.
You can watch the photo taken at the gig by yourself.
Antifa Reporter
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Contact details for the mag
03.12.2008 14:02
TERRORIZER
Dark Arts Ltd.
Unit 36, 10-50 Willow Street
London EC2A 4BH, UK
Tel: +44 20 7729 7666
Fax: +44 20 7739 0544
Ruby
Ignorance is the tool of the Right, it's a shame when you wield it
03.12.2008 14:13
Gaahl, of Gorgoroth, has never espoused any fascistic beliefs. It's an error to equate the me-first cult of personality that surrounds black metal, as well as some of its imagery and pagan aesthetics, as being automatically racist. Interestingly, he was recently outed as homosexual which has upset some of black metal's more ideologically unpleasant NS-bloc and good on him, it's incredible that such a key spokesman of the 'True Norwegian Black Metal' scene is taking a stand - after all, independence of thought is supposedly key to the black metal philosophy.
It saddens me to think that people make dangerous, ill-informed knee-jerk reactions towards bands based on ill-informed moral panics and media bogeymen because, well, isn't that the sort of thing that the Far Right does?
We take particular care to make sure that no ideologically repugnant bands make it into Terrorizer - which is a difficult task because these bands clearly exist, but it's a task we're committed to, speaking both as a professional who works to the NUJ code of conduct and personally as a socialist.
It's interesting that this has popped up today because we're still dealing with this:
All the best,
James
James
e-mail:
james@terrorizer.com
Homepage:
http://www.terrorizer.com
Terrorizer is also known to have covered other explicit Nazi bands
03.12.2008 14:51
It happened with Nokturnal Mortum (A Polish band banned in many countries such as Holland, Belgium and Germany) and Kataxu. Both of them are explicitly using Nazi symbols and ideas.
I have seen the video about that "singer", it's shocking, putting on the cover a criminal just for the sake of money and sensationalism.
I think that featuring such dangerous militant bands is awful, this Mag should be boycotted and suspended from being distributed around imho.
Metz
This is nonsense
03.12.2008 14:56
bored at work
Far Right in Terrorizer
03.12.2008 15:06
Extreme metal has a growing problem with far right politics appropriating its tropes and motifs for its own end, and I believe Terrorizer does a very good job of dealing with a very prickly issue without infantile finger pointing.
I find the views of the far right repugnant and I believe so do most people involved in extreme music in any capacity including the Terrorizer staff. Terrorizer's coverage of music from less obvious countries (South America, the Middle and Far East) is far more comprehensive then any other British music magazine (excluding World Music publications of course) and is free from the partonising, myopic bullshit other mags indulge when covering artists from more "exotic" climes.
Myrddyn
What a shame!
03.12.2008 15:19
It's not possible to see that...I think that the editorial office of the magazine should have serious sanctions for this event.
These guys are in a cesspool of contradiction.
The journalist of the magazine, who tried to defend his status, posted another article about a dispute between them and an italian label, because they censored a metal band of this label (ATMF), which has probably nothing to do with the NS problem.
You know, probably they're pro-NS only when they get too much money from the labels. If in the case of "Terrorizer vs ATMF" they were anti-NS, probably we have to find the answer in the fact that ATMF is not a major. When the major offers much more cash the censorship doesn't exist...woooooooow!!! True or not, Terrorizer?!
Fuck off!
People is not stupid (at least the 20%)! So...go fuck yourselves!
\m/brandon90210\m/
Manipulated
03.12.2008 15:36
learn your facts, learn that you are being mainpulated by people with an agenda and act accordingly, if that's possible.
naturalorderaxis
tish pish and old boiled shoes
03.12.2008 15:55
Infant
Such a shame!
03.12.2008 18:29
M.B.
Fair play to Terrorizer
03.12.2008 20:28
I think an Antifa medal is in order.
CH
My opinion: this is an over-reaction
03.12.2008 20:51
These black metal bands just try to outdo each other for shock value by extreme posturing. I don't think they have any coherent right wing ideology. It's like when the Sex Pistols used swastikas in the 70s despite being the antithesis of fascism.
Can you imagine BNP fuhrer Nick Griffin having tea with the guy in the picture?! He stands for every "perversion" that the BNP are against!
Next you'll be telling us that Elvis Presley was trying to corrupt our morals with his hip gyrating satanic rock'n'roll.
anti-fascist
1, this isnt a official indymedia story//2,it isnt a official antifa story& no1
04.12.2008 00:13
Though they claim pagan roots & love of nature, they dont seem to be very big in its defence, in fact by attacking people their increasing more hate, more nihilism & more destruction.
antifashist
1, this isnt a official indymedia story//2,it isnt a official antifa story& no1
04.12.2008 00:14
Though they claim pagan roots & love of nature, they dont seem to be very big in its defence, in fact by attacking people their increasing more hate, more nihilism & more destruction.
antifashist
Wrong reaction
04.12.2008 00:54
That's it. So the sort of reaction displayed by the OP just validates their fuckwit antics. Not saying the use of nazi imagery should just be ignored. People closer to their scene than me need to find ways to get it into their thick heads that nazi trappings aren't on, what they really represent, and that they're not just another off the shelf granny-shocker.
But let's keep a sense of proportion. There are idiots, there are nazis, and there are nazi idiots (lots), but these are clearly in the first group -just plain idiots. It doesn't help to lump them all together. Not only could you not imagine Nick Griffin taking tea with these bands, you couldn't see Hitler doing so either. They're just the sort of "degenerates" he swept into the concentration camps before he even got round to the Jews. Ironic, isn't it? Maybe someone should tell them.
Stroppyoldgit
Here are some comments from that Terrorizer article posted online
04.12.2008 16:32
"Well some people are very comfortable in the limelight, and a lot of attention no matter what it is. Gaahl (Gorgoroth) is a personal friend of mine and he really enjoys the attention. Okay, that's good for him, but I'm not that kind of guy. I don't want to be out there in the open. If people discover us somehow then fine. I only want to release albums and that's it. I don't want to make headlines."
This quote coming from Taake's Hoest? The man who provoked probably THE most negative of headlines when he appeared at a concert in Germany with a swastika daubed on his chest. Promoters could not book the band in Germany. Pressure from Kreator, and others, got Taake removed from the Karmøyggedon Festival. Inflaming the situation with a swiftly released statement that informed the "untermensch"[$italics] club owner that he should "go suck a Muslim". This doesn't sound like a man who wants to remain anonymous.
"Well the hate-mail has stopped coming in. Don't get me wrong, we are definitely NOT Nazis. We only used that symbol as another symbol for evil. The usual symbols, the pentagram and inverted cross, don't invoke reactions anymore. And anyway, it was taking the piss also. My first statement wasn't well thought over. I didn't really express what I meant so obviously I provoked a bit more than I meant. I wrote two more statements. Nobody bothered to read them so they stuck with the first one and insist that we are a Nazi band."
Only after a chat with former Terrorizer scribe Gunnar Sauermann, did Hoest fully appreciate that in some quarters of the nihilistic black metal dimension, the defeated politics of National Socialism still echo about in the most hollow-skulled black metallers.
Ridleygirl
They sing about evil things, thus they are saying that Nazism is evil
04.12.2008 21:38
Fascism and Nazism is evil, that is why they have songs about it and use its imagery.
In fact, you could argue that the very fact they use these fascist images implies they think it is evil!
There are genuine Nazi bands out there like the Blood & Honour morons. They need to be attacked with everything we have. Black Metal bands are generally not fascist at all, despite the superficial trappings. I think the original poster doesn't understand that.
The Sex Pistols used the swastika to shock and no-one calls them fascist.
You could argue that the German law banning display of the swastika (an ancient religious symbol co-opted by the Nazis) is itself fascist, and using it in public is a valid protest against that authority. It's only a geometric figure, for fucks sake!
anon
for satan's sake
06.12.2008 13:47
See:
As someone who has gone on anti-fascist demos and been involved in anti-capitalist protests, I cannot understand how anti-fascists in a country like Italy - which is basically run by post and current fascists under Berlusconi - can even waste their energy destroying musical instruments. Let's hope the same mindlessless isn't coming here to the UK.
Similarly, I have been listening to black metal (amongst other styles of music) for about 15 years, and consider myself an anarchist communists for about 8. I sometimes read Terrorizer magazine when someone has bought a copy that I happen to see...It can hardly be labelled fascist or nazi...more liberal really, based on its editorials. I see no contradiction between these two activities and interests.
There are plenty of real targets for concerned anti-fascist and anti-capitalists with time on their hands to campaign against. Concentrating on this kind of stuff is a waste of energy and quite frankly pathetic. Deal with the corporations, the police state, the animal testing industry, the arms industry, the prison industrial complex, and the real nazis out there.
Lucifer